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What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

ValMar wrote:What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

Why do you care?

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

Why do you care?

Sometimes, I am fed up of this kind of rooting. Americans claimed that Ward had defeated Kovalev, Russians and Belarusians claimed just opposite..
etc..etc....Endless story...We can speak about the blindness or stupidity, or simply about "human nature"....

I don't mind positive discrimination in the context of supporting one's own nationality for purely sporting reasons, but I do get fûckîng frustrated about those that solely support fighters from certain global regions (i.e. multiple countries from a similar area), whilst aggressively disparaging boxers from the rest of the globe.

It's not much of a factor in whom I cheer for. In fact, the only Canadian fighter of recent years that I'm a fan of is David Lemieux.

I understand how nationality is a factor, but there is so much more to fighters than where they're from.

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

Why do you care?

Sometimes, I am fed up of this kind of rooting. Americans claimed that Ward had defeated Kovalev, Russians and Belarusians claimed just opposite..
etc..etc....Endless story...We can speak about the blindness or stupidity, or simply about "human nature"....

Yeah, I get that. I think that most people who are more than casual fans of boxing recognize and praise talent from anywhere on the planet. Casual fans who only pay attention to the very biggest fights naturally gravitate to their national fighter.

But, I really do not think that the opinions on fights like SOGgy v Krusher I were as much based on nationalism or regionalism as they were on preference of style and personality.

It is natural. If there are two fighters of a similar style and one of them knows Russian, I will root for him. I won't root for a dirty or boring fighter even if he has my first and last names.

There's plenty foreign fighters I like, but if there's a British fighter I like, I'll desperately want them to win.

It's completely natural to support your own guys imo. This is a bedrock of sport

Èire all 32 counties

ValMar wrote:What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

I think it's outrageous, stupid, juvenile, and biased... Fans are crazy supporters of sports teams that happen to play their home games in their city.. Why??? I've very often go to games in whatever city I'm in.. I support the team I like the best if they're in my city or not.. I could GAF less where they play their home games... I’m not an idiot who eats up the hype and personal interest stories about athletes on “my” team... I always loved that song "We'll root, root, root for the home team - if we don't win it's a SHAAAAME." ... I think the guy who wrote it was being sarcastic.

I support Sergei Kovalev and hope he flattens Andre Ward—who is a cheating, head butting, pushing and shoving MFer.. I supported Ward when he fought Kessler and Froch.. I would have supported him against Calzaghe.. I didn't think they were real good boxers and Ward is much better than they were.

There was a time I was a big Ward fan because he was the best Super Middleweight of all time.. From his last fight I think he'll do anything to win and accept a corrupt result like he really won the fight.. Ward got his ass beaten and all 3 American commentators had him losing to Kovalev.. In addition to that, Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones also said Kovalev won the fight.. Those guys are generally very supportive of Americans.

One man I'm very pissed off about is John David Jackson.. He tried to dump Kovalev and go over to the “American side” ... Can you fukking imagine that??? With all the distractions, and the dissention on his team – along with the NSAC appointing another hit team of American officials – and with his attitude that he’s going to wreck Ward’s career he's so angry about being ripped off – it’s going to be damned near impossible for Kovalev to floor Ward and beat him again – much less get the decision.

A house divided against itself – will not stand... It’s unfair, but this is a corrupt sport.

Kalan wrote:

ValMar wrote:What do you think about ? I dislike it, but I know that the great majority of posters will not agree with me.

I think it's outrageous, stupid, juvenile, and biased... Fans are crazy supporters of sports teams that happen to play their home games in their city.. Why??? I've very often go to games in whatever city I'm in.. I support the team I like the best if they're in my city or not.. I could GAF less where they play their home games... I’m not an idiot who eats up the hype and personal interest stories about athletes on “my” team... I always loved that song "We'll root, root, root for the home team - if we don't win it's a SHAAAAME." ... I think the guy who wrote it was being sarcastic.

I support Sergei Kovalev and hope he flattens Andre Ward—who is a cheating, head butting, pushing and shoving MFer.. I supported Ward when he fought Kessler and Froch.. I would have supported him against Calzaghe.. I didn't think they were real good boxers and Ward is much better than they were.

There was a time I was a big Ward fan because he was the best Super Middleweight of all time.. From his last fight I think he'll do anything to win and accept a corrupt result like he really won the fight.. Ward got his ass beaten and all 3 American commentators had him losing to Kovalev.. In addition to that, Floyd Mayweather and Roy Jones also said Kovalev won the fight.. Those guys are generally very supportive of Americans.

One man I'm very pissed off about is John David Jackson.. He tried to dump Kovalev and go over to the “American side” ... Can you fukking imagine that??? With all the distractions, and the dissention on his team – along with the NSAC appointing another hit team of American officials – and with his attitude that he’s going to wreck Ward’s career he's so angry about being ripped off – it’s going to be damned near impossible for Kovalev to floor Ward and beat him again – much less get the decision.

A house divided against itself – will not stand... It’s unfair, but this is a corrupt sport.

Outrageous, stupid, juvenile, you're a facking idiot mate

It can give you a bias though for sure.

You feel no loyalty etc to where you're from that's your view. Up to you.

If every country supported their fighters like England and Ireland does than Boxing would be the #1 Sport in the world, hands down. I'm an American and I have ZERO patronage to US fighters. In fact, i'll go as far as to say that American fighters were the main reason why 2016 was the worst boxing year in my life. American fighters were nothing but record padders, nothing more. But this year they are coming around.

But make no mistake about it. British fighters and British fans are CARRYING this sport right now. British fans are rabid and there is NOTHING better than watching a big fight from across the pond. That Wlad/AJ fight was one of the greatest events in many many many years to watch on TV and the British Fans and their love for their boxers were a huge part of making that night so special. The sport needs way more of it.

British girls, European girls, American girls - I don't discriminate

CaptainSpacerod wrote:British girls, European girls, American girls - I don't discriminate

You racist, what about Asian girls?

I'm with Crusader, we Canadians don't have many really good fighters to cheer for.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:British girls, European girls, American girls - I don't discriminate

You racist, what about Asian girls?

caldo2025 wrote:If every country supported their fighters like England and Ireland does than Boxing would be the #1 Sport in the world, hands down. I'm an American and I have ZERO patronage to US fighters. In fact, i'll go as far as to say that American fighters were the main reason why 2016 was the worst boxing year in my life. American fighters were nothing but record padders, nothing more. But this year they are coming around.

But make no mistake about it. British fighters and British fans are CARRYING this sport right now. British fans are rabid and there is NOTHING better than watching a big fight from across the pond. That Wlad/AJ fight was one of the greatest events in many many many years to watch on TV and the British Fans and their love for their boxers were a huge part of making that night so special. The sport needs way more of it.

Brits and Mexicans are carrying the sport, and they are predominantly cheering for their own.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:British girls, European girls, American girls - I don't discriminate

You racist, what about Asian girls?

I'm with Crusader, we Canadians don't have many really good fighters to cheer for.

What about Canadian girls? Cheer for your own

caldo2025 wrote:If every country supported their fighters like England and Ireland does than Boxing would be the #1 Sport in the world, hands down. I'm an American and I have ZERO patronage to US fighters. In fact, i'll go as far as to say that American fighters were the main reason why 2016 was the worst boxing year in my life. American fighters were nothing but record padders, nothing more. But this year they are coming around.

But make no mistake about it. British fighters and British fans are CARRYING this sport right now. British fans are rabid and there is NOTHING better than watching a big fight from across the pond. That Wlad/AJ fight was one of the greatest events in many many many years to watch on TV and the British Fans and their love for their boxers were a huge part of making that night so special. The sport needs way more of it.

In my experience Americans generally are far more patriotic than Brits but specifically regarding sport this manifests itself in supporting national teams rather than individuals.

For example in tennis, with the exception of the occasional night game involving a Yank at Flushing Meadow, Roger or Rafa receive much greater support from the crowd than your average homegrown player.

Ive never cheered for any athlete because they are American.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ive never cheered for any athlete because they are American.

Me neither. I could care less where they are from.

good matchups and good fights is all I care about, although I do understand its important for a boxer to get good home support just for the general good of the game and to keep it in the spotlight but its the fights im a fan of.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:If every country supported their fighters like England and Ireland does than Boxing would be the #1 Sport in the world, hands down. I'm an American and I have ZERO patronage to US fighters. In fact, i'll go as far as to say that American fighters were the main reason why 2016 was the worst boxing year in my life. American fighters were nothing but record padders, nothing more. But this year they are coming around.

But make no mistake about it. British fighters and British fans are CARRYING this sport right now. British fans are rabid and there is NOTHING better than watching a big fight from across the pond. That Wlad/AJ fight was one of the greatest events in many many many years to watch on TV and the British Fans and their love for their boxers were a huge part of making that night so special. The sport needs way more of it.

In my experience Americans generally are far more patriotic than Brits but specifically regarding sport this manifests itself in supporting national teams rather than individuals.

For example in tennis, with the exception of the occasional night game involving a Yank at Flushing Meadow, Roger or Rafa receive much greater support from the crowd than your average homegrown player.

I wouldn't agree with that. Even years and years of let downs with the English football team they still get quality support from the fans in big numbers.

The cricket fans (barmy army) are the best in the world.

All the rugby nations are supported well. To a slightly lesser maybe the Scots.

Can't really comment internationally for America but I'd certainly draw the line saying Americans are much more patriotic. From my time in America the fans rooted big for their teams, like the knicks etc

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ive never cheered for any athlete because they are American.

You're pretty big on spence though. Anything to do with him being a local boy?

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ive never cheered for any athlete because they are American.

You're pretty big on spence though. Anything to do with him being a local boy?

No, I'm from Baltimore. Just lived in Dallas for 3 years.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ive never cheered for any athlete because they are American.

You're pretty big on spence though. Anything to do with him being a local boy?

No, I'm from Baltimore. Just lived in Dallas for 3 years.

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