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Dude has that T. Hearn / J. Jackson type of power in his left hand. At his 40 I think he T/K.O's Alvarez.

We haven't seen Afraudis Stevenson in with a top fighter and probably never will so I don't think that there's any way you could ever make that assertion. Not until he finally gets in the ring with someone. His resume is putrid and as champion, i don't see how he gets to avoid fighting any top contenders.

caldo2025 wrote:We haven't seen Afraudis Stevenson in with a top fighter and probably never will so I don't think that there's any way you could ever make that assertion. Not until he finally gets in the ring with someone. His resume is putrid and as champion, i don't see how he gets to avoid fighting any top contenders.

He's 40 y/o and he's milking as much as he can his status. Neither Ward, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk or Barrera will bring him a huge payday to worth the risk. Stevenson can fight Alvarez, Pascal and Bute in Canada and still make very good money.

apollo creed wrote:Dude has that T. Hearn / J. Jackson type of power in his left hand. At his 40 I think he T/K.O's Alvarez.

Hearns and Jackson got their asses torn off by good fighters -- Hagler and McCallum...and not so good fighters also destroyed them -- Chickenson would get his ass ripped to pieces if he ever fought a good fighter... The man sucks worse than the "Giant Sucking Sound" Ross Perot used to hear down in Mexico.

Fans love punchers and are blind to everything and this thread proves that.

apollo creed wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:We haven't seen Afraudis Stevenson in with a top fighter and probably never will so I don't think that there's any way you could ever make that assertion. Not until he finally gets in the ring with someone. His resume is putrid and as champion, i don't see how he gets to avoid fighting any top contenders.

He's 40 y/o and he's milking as much as he can his status. Neither Ward, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Gvozdyk or Barrera will bring him a huge payday to worth the risk. Stevenson can fight Alvarez, Pascal and Bute in Canada and still make very good money.

You know, i have NO problem with that. But he's not playing it that way. He's playing it as if HE'S the lineal champion, which he is if we are being accurate, and the best in the world. He bowed out against Kovalev when the fight was set to go so he will always be a chump to me. Plus he used to be a pimp on the streets so he doesn't have much of a moral compass to emulate.

caldo2025 wrote:We haven't seen Afraudis Stevenson in with a top fighter and probably never will so I don't think that there's any way you could ever make that assertion. Not until he finally gets in the ring with someone. His resume is putrid and as champion, i don't see how he gets to avoid fighting any top contenders.

Toney Bellew?

He is not even top 3 in terms of punching power in his division.

world ranked wrote:Fans love punchers and are blind to everything and this thread proves that.

Look at how SuperPimp fooled Dawson with feints. He's not a a brainless fighter.

Tarkus wrote:He is not even top 3 in terms of punching power in his division.

Steveson T/KO'ed better fighters than Kovalev and Beterbiev did.

Chickenson only fought Fonfara again because greenhorn Joe Smith knocked him stiff in the 1st round.

Darnell Boone knocked Chickenson out... Kovalev knocked Darnell Boone out... Partisans created the fable that Boone knocked Kovalev down... He didn't. He knocked Ward down. Chickenson refused to fight Kovalev, Ward, Hopkins, Smith, Beterbiev, or anyone who's any good.

Dawson was washed up and burned out after he was beaten by Pascal...and later boiled down to 168 to fight Ward... He was looking bad.. How many guys does Andre Ward knock out???? Hardly any unless they're 3rd raters.

apollo creed wrote:

Tarkus wrote:He is not even top 3 in terms of punching power in his division.

Steveson T/KO'ed better fighters than Kovalev and Beterbiev did.

Kov: Pascal, Cleverly, Campillo,

AS: Dawson, Bellew, Cloud, post-Smith Fonfara

I'd say that's pretty close, and Dawson/Fonfara had been dropped multiple times and stopped within their last two fights. I think Adonis probably does have slightly more one shot power than Kov, though it's all in the left hand.

crusader wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Tarkus wrote:He is not even top 3 in terms of punching power in his division.

Steveson T/KO'ed better fighters than Kovalev and Beterbiev did.

Kov: Pascal, Cleverly, Campillo,

AS: Dawson, Bellew, Cloud, Fonfara (KO'd in 1 two fights early)

I'd say that's pretty close, though I think Adonis probably has slightly more one shot power.

Dawson and Fonfara were coming of devastating KO losses. Both were shot. Stevenson was not able to stop Fonfara in the first. He could not hurt Bika. Cloud was overmatched rather then hurt. So only high level opponent he truly destroyed was Bellew. Kovalev hurt everybody he fought, even the ones he did not stop he dropped them. Stevenson has powerful left but not as powerful as Kovas right. Plus Kova has a pretty big left himself.

IKSRTFO wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:We haven't seen Afraudis Stevenson in with a top fighter and probably never will so I don't think that there's any way you could ever make that assertion. Not until he finally gets in the ring with someone. His resume is putrid and as champion, i don't see how he gets to avoid fighting any top contenders.

Toney Bellew?

Tony Bellew is a nice fighter but let's be careful putting him in the "top contender". Tony Bellew got extremely fortunate to win a world title so late in his career thanks to an easy fight for the belt. He got the win against Haye but everyone knows that the fight would have been much different had DH not torn his achilles.

Even with Bellew included, not much on the menu for Adonis's career.

apollo creed wrote:

world ranked wrote:Fans love punchers and are blind to everything and this thread proves that.

Look at how SuperPimp fooled Dawson with feints. He's not a a brainless fighter.

When was that fight?

I think Deonty WIlder maybe deserves it. Quite consistantly knocking out people 10 or more lbs heavier, and can really end a fight with one punch.