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He got beat up badly by maidana. Took punishmant in a one sided fight against porter and is now probably weeks away from another beat down by one of boxing hardest punchers. He is surrounded by guys like crawford, thurman, indongo & spence who would all fu=;?"*.)k him up badly and is every 2 month in the news bevause of legal problem, potential jail time etc..

I mean i like the guy. To me he is funny like a comedian, but his biggest talent seems to be the talent in getting yourself in trouble.

No, he'll be around for years. Chance after chance with blind fans using silly words like prepared and focused. He's a homeless mans Judah.

Jip wrote:He got beat up badly by maidana. Took punishmant in a one sided fight against porter and is now probably weeks away from another beat down by one of boxing hardest punchers. He is surrounded by guys like crawford, thurman, indongo & spence who would all fu=;?"*.)k him up badly and is every 2 month in the news bevause of legal problem, potential jail time etc..

I mean i like the guy. To me he is funny like a comedian, but his biggest talent seems to be the talent in getting yourself in trouble.

Pretty harsh view on Broner I feel. Broner is a 140 pounder and really shouldn't fight over that weight. He went up in weight to take both of those fights with Maidana and Porter and even though he lost, he managed to knock Porter on his ass for the only time in his career. But i think that my point is that Broner should get some credit for the fights he's been taking now.

And honestly, I give Broner a better than average chance of winning this fight. Garcia has had only 2 fights over 129 pounds and it was against garbage IMO. Now we're talking 140 pounds and against one of the fastest hands on the planet. I'd take the odds and go with Broner for some dough, no doubt.

Last hurrah for Broner? I don't think so. With all his shenanigans outside of the ring, you can't take away his talent inside of it.

I find Garcia to be a class act, precision boxer puncher & definitely a part of the elite fighters competing today.
I truly thought Mayweather Promotions was going to snag him up last year.
If he wins this...his stock rises tremendously.
The promoters will be gunning hard for him.
Make no mistake though... Broner is no joke at 140 his natural fight weight.
This is a gimme fight!

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No, he'll be around for years. Chance after chance with blind fans using silly words like prepared and focused. He's a homeless mans Judah.

Yep

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No, he'll be around for years. Chance after chance with blind fans using silly words like prepared and focused. He's a homeless mans Judah.

Exactly!

Oben321 wrote: Broner is no joke at 140 his natural fight weight.
This is a gimme fight!

- Big DUH for you, that's why mikey took the fight. Easiest money mikey ever makes.

Been a steady downhill for bonehead ever since a little feather Ponce De Leon whipped him from stem to stern. Makes some great stand up jailbait every time we see him hauled in front of the magistrate.

I'm not a fan of Adrien Broner, but I can see he's very strong and durable. He's a naturally bigger man than Mikey Garcia.

I'll be rooting to Garcia, but I wouldn't be surprised by a Broner win.

think broner will lose maybe . he is tough sure he will fight on ,brasses aren't cheap

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:

Oben321 wrote: Broner is no joke at 140 his natural fight weight.
This is a gimme fight!

- Big DUH for you, that's why mikey took the fight. Easiest money mikey ever makes.

Been a steady downhill for bonehead ever since a little feather Ponce De Leon whipped him from stem to stern. Makes some great stand up jailbait every time we see him hauled in front of the magistrate.

You're right.
Wrong choice of word on my part.
Make no mistake...I favor Garcia.
I just don't believe it will be an easy walk through for either fighter.

I was deeply impressed by the super featherweight version of Adrien Broner, but his lack of dedication to the sport and out-of-ring drama has severely harmed a career, where he previously had the skills and personality to potentially become a genuine pound-for-pound PPV star.

Whilst I sincerely believe that Mikey Garcia will become the third man to inflict a defeat on Broner’s resume, it’s not completely beyond the realms of possibility for ‘The Problem’ to somehow turn back the clock by scoring a shocking upset victory over the undefeated Southern Californian, especially considering it’s a very important crossroads fight for Adrien.

That being said, I don’t expect a stoppage in this fight, instead I believe that a master counter-puncher like Garcia will outbox Broner in a chess match type bout, en route to scoring a lop-sided decision victory.

No. Too young for last hurrahs.

Broner isn't a Victor Ortiz, so no his career isn't done. At 27 yrs old he is just getting in his prime years. He is stronger than Garcia, hits harder, quick hands, and a pretty good counter puncher. Besides that he has taken big shots from guys much bigger than Garcia. I look at this fight as a 60/40 fight in the favor of Garcia, but lean towards even a 50/50 due to Garcia's inactivity and jump up in weight.

We'll see which Broner shows up. If he is at his best, he can definitely win this. I think he has more at stake than Garcia does. Garcia can always say the weight jump was too much. I would love to see the winner vs Crawford.

Guess would be Haymon rigs it to be close so that both of his fighters gain respect and street cred. Broner is desperate for a positive performance and Haymon has the power and motive to resurrect Broner's dead career. Would Haymon give Garcia a bonus to play soft with Broner like he did Canelo the $5m bonus vs Floyd? YES

"Al Haymon can manipulate anything. What Al Haymon wants Al Haymon gets." - Paulie malignaggi to spam before he fought Broner

Badhusker wrote:I would love to see the winner vs Crawford.

So you think Al Haymon be open to risking Garcia or Broner against Crawford/Arum??? LOL at your naivete

Badhusker wrote:Broner isn't a Victor Ortiz, so no his career isn't done. At 27 yrs old he is just getting in his prime years. He is stronger than Garcia, hits harder, quick hands, and a pretty good counter puncher. Besides that he has taken big shots from guys much bigger than Garcia. I look at this fight as a 60/40 fight in the favor of Garcia, but lean towards even a 50/50 due to Garcia's inactivity and jump up in weight.

We'll see which Broner shows up. If he is at his best, he can definitely win this. I think he has more at stake than Garcia does. Garcia can always say the weight jump was too much. I would love to see the winner vs Crawford.

There's no way he wins this. This is as close to a sure thing in boxing as it gets. There is a huge gap of space when it comes to the level of skill set between these two. Broner will have to land a lucky punch to win this one. Mikey is going to be touching him all night. Broner has never learned the proper fundamentals to keep someone like Garcia to stop punching him in the face and to the body. It's going to be art.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Broner isn't a Victor Ortiz, so no his career isn't done. At 27 yrs old he is just getting in his prime years. He is stronger than Garcia, hits harder, quick hands, and a pretty good counter puncher. Besides that he has taken big shots from guys much bigger than Garcia. I look at this fight as a 60/40 fight in the favor of Garcia, but lean towards even a 50/50 due to Garcia's inactivity and jump up in weight.

We'll see which Broner shows up. If he is at his best, he can definitely win this. I think he has more at stake than Garcia does. Garcia can always say the weight jump was too much. I would love to see the winner vs Crawford.

There's no way he wins this. This is as close to a sure thing in boxing as it gets. There is a huge gap of space when it comes to the level of skill set between these two. Broner will have to land a lucky punch to win this one. Mikey is going to be touching him all night. Broner has never learned the proper fundamentals to keep someone like Garcia to stop punching him in the face and to the body. It's going to be art.

There is a much better chance that Broner gets stopped for the first time than there is he wins.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Broner isn't a Victor Ortiz, so no his career isn't done. At 27 yrs old he is just getting in his prime years. He is stronger than Garcia, hits harder, quick hands, and a pretty good counter puncher. Besides that he has taken big shots from guys much bigger than Garcia. I look at this fight as a 60/40 fight in the favor of Garcia, but lean towards even a 50/50 due to Garcia's inactivity and jump up in weight.

We'll see which Broner shows up. If he is at his best, he can definitely win this. I think he has more at stake than Garcia does. Garcia can always say the weight jump was too much. I would love to see the winner vs Crawford.

There's no way he wins this. This is as close to a sure thing in boxing as it gets. There is a huge gap of space when it comes to the level of skill set between these two. Broner will have to land a lucky punch to win this one. Mikey is going to be touching him all night. Broner has never learned the proper fundamentals to keep someone like Garcia to stop punching him in the face and to the body. It's going to be art.

There is a much better chance that Broner gets stopped for the first time than there is he wins.

I agree. Mikey Garcia might not hit as hard as Marcos Maidana but he is going to land a lot more punches on Broner than Maidana did. Broner won't know what has hit him and usually when someone throws he turtles up. I see a stoppage due to an accumulation of punches.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: There's no way he wins this. This is as close to a sure thing in boxing as it gets. There is a huge gap of space when it comes to the level of skill set between these two. Broner will have to land a lucky punch to win this one. Mikey is going to be touching him all night. Broner has never learned the proper fundamentals to keep someone like Garcia to stop punching him in the face and to the body. It's going to be art.

There is a much better chance that Broner gets stopped for the first time than there is he wins.

I agree. Mikey Garcia might not hit as hard as Marcos Maidana but he is going to land a lot more punches on Broner than Maidana did. Broner won't know what has hit him and usually when someone throws he turtles up. I see a stoppage due to an accumulation of punches.

I agree Garcia is an excellent boxer, with very good power, but the huge unknown here is the weight jump. You guys are basically saying he is going to do better than either Maidana or Porter vs Broner.....easily. I just don't think that is realistic. Broner is one I personally love to hate, but if he brings his A game, it will be a good fight, imo. Stoppage?

Badhusker wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:


There is a much better chance that Broner gets stopped for the first time than there is he wins.

I agree. Mikey Garcia might not hit as hard as Marcos Maidana but he is going to land a lot more punches on Broner than Maidana did. Broner won't know what has hit him and usually when someone throws he turtles up. I see a stoppage due to an accumulation of punches.

I agree Garcia is an excellent boxer, with very good power, but the huge unknown here is the weight jump. You guys are basically saying he is going to do better than either Maidana or Porter vs Broner.....easily. I just don't think that is realistic. Broner is one I personally love to hate, but if he brings his A game, it will be a good fight, imo. Stoppage?

Broner wil be bigger. It may play a small part, but I doubt it. Mikey fought at 140 not even a year ago. So, the actual weight is not foreign. But, if Broner has trouble finding Mikey, and Mikey is tagging Broner constantly and setting up clean over hand rights, the relative little bit of weight he will be giving up won't matter.

Impractical Poster wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:
I agree. Mikey Garcia might not hit as hard as Marcos Maidana but he is going to land a lot more punches on Broner than Maidana did. Broner won't know what has hit him and usually when someone throws he turtles up. I see a stoppage due to an accumulation of punches.

I agree Garcia is an excellent boxer, with very good power, but the huge unknown here is the weight jump. You guys are basically saying he is going to do better than either Maidana or Porter vs Broner.....easily. I just don't think that is realistic. Broner is one I personally love to hate, but if he brings his A game, it will be a good fight, imo. Stoppage?

Broner wil be bigger. It may play a small part, but I doubt it. Mikey fought at 140 not even a year ago. So, the actual weight is not foreign. But, if Broner has trouble finding Mikey, and Mikey is tagging Broner constantly and setting up clean over hand rights, the relative little bit of weight he will be giving up won't matter.

You very well could be right about the result, but I think people are slightly over-rating Garcia, and slightly under-rating Broner. I think the fight will be very competitive.
I'm curious, is Garcia managed by Al Haymon also?

No, Mikey is a free agent that has been working with Schaefer

Boxrec is the place where, in one thread, you can be arguing with someone who claims that Mikey Garcia is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, and in another thread, people will be claiming that Adrien Broner would beat Mikey Garcia.

So just so we're clear about what is being claimed on boxrec...
Shawn Porter > Adrien Broner > Mikey Garcia > Sugar Ray Robinson

Lackeos wrote:Boxrec is the place where, in one thread, you can be arguing with someone who claims that Mikey Garcia is better than Sugar Ray Robinson, and in another thread, people will be claiming that Adrien Broner would beat Mikey Garcia.

So just so we're clear about what is being claimed on boxrec...
Shawn Porter > Adrien Broner > Mikey Garcia > Sugar Ray Robinson

Anyone that said Garcia is better than SRR is in lala land. I said Broner is a live dog vs Garcia, and think he will be. Several claim that Garcia will stop Broner, and is a sure thing. I disagree.
Both Lomanchenko and Crawford will beat the hell out of Garcia if they ever fight. Garcia will go back to 135 until Lomo moves up, and will go to 140 when Crawford moves up. Wait and see.

Garcia should win this fight as the serious boxer of the 2. Broners no mug below welterweight though, but the good boxers have found flaws in his game. Garcia should also