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Rigo defends his WBA Super Bantamweight title against unbeaten Mexican Flores on the undercard of Ward/Kovalev 2 this weekend, this fight was supposed to happen a few months ago but was postponed after the card was scrapped, was it Cotto/Kirkland??

Anyway does anyone still care about Rigondeaux?? His careers been frustrating to say the least and I used to be his biggest fan but his inactivity and some of his performances have lost my interest, Lomachenko has become the fighter I thought Rigo might be, this is his first fight since he stopped Dickens early with a broken jaw so hopefully we get to see a bit more of him this time around

I cant say I know much about Flores apart from the fact that he's unbeaten in 25 and has wins over Escandon who just fought Russell Jr for the world title and last time out Flores outpointed former champ Ambunda in Namibia

Hopefully we get to see a competitive fight and Rigo is tested to see how much he really has left at this stage of his career, seems like a lifetime ago he beat Donaire, its hard to make a prediction without seeing Flores but i'll go with Rigondeaux to win a decision, some flashes of brilliance along the way with a few dry spells throughout

I think its gotta be a DQ for Rigo, its harsh but that shot did land after the bell, I think Malignaggi's wrong regarding Flores taking a dive, that was a hurtful shot IMO, Flores might have got up if it was earlier in the round but I reckon he also would've went down from that punch

Gutted coz Rigondeaux was looking exceptional , making Flores look kike a fool, gutted another one of his fights ended like this

By the letter of the law he should be DQ'd

handsofstone wrote:I think its gotta be a DQ for Rigo, its harsh but that shot did land after the bell, I think Malignaggi's wrong regarding Flores taking a dive, that was a hurtful shot IMO, Flores might have got up if it was earlier in the round but I reckon he also would've went down from that punch

Gutted coz Rigondeaux was looking exceptional , making Flores look kike a fool, gutted another one of his fights ended like this

By the letter of the law he should be DQ'd

Wow! Apparently not!

handsofstone wrote:I think its gotta be a DQ for Rigo, its harsh but that shot did land after the bell, I think Malignaggi's wrong regarding Flores taking a dive, that was a hurtful shot IMO, Flores might have got up if it was earlier in the round but I reckon he also would've went down from that punch

Gutted coz Rigondeaux was looking exceptional , making Flores look kike a fool, gutted another one of his fights ended like this

By the letter of the law he should be DQ'd

Yeah but was it intentional?

Did they even bother to watch the reply after all that time deciding what to do? The punch obviously landed after the bell

The ref also initially said multiple times that it was an illegal blow, then all of a sudden Rigo wins by KO.

IT wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I think its gotta be a DQ for Rigo, its harsh but that shot did land after the bell, I think Malignaggi's wrong regarding Flores taking a dive, that was a hurtful shot IMO, Flores might have got up if it was earlier in the round but I reckon he also would've went down from that punch

Gutted coz Rigondeaux was looking exceptional , making Flores look kike a fool, gutted another one of his fights ended like this

By the letter of the law he should be DQ'd

Yeah but was it intentional?

You can hit someone with the head unintentional , not a punch, he might not have meant it but by the rules he should've been DQ'd, if Flores landed first then he should've been DQ'd

handsofstone wrote:

IT wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I think its gotta be a DQ for Rigo, its harsh but that shot did land after the bell, I think Malignaggi's wrong regarding Flores taking a dive, that was a hurtful shot IMO, Flores might have got up if it was earlier in the round but I reckon he also would've went down from that punch

Gutted coz Rigondeaux was looking exceptional , making Flores look kike a fool, gutted another one of his fights ended like this

By the letter of the law he should be DQ'd

Yeah but was it intentional?

You can hit someone with the head unintentional , not a punch, he might not have meant it but by the rules he should've been DQ'd, if Flores landed first then he should've been DQ'd

Yeah but the thing is they both threw punches after the bell. It's just that Rigondeauxs got there first.

As the name fighter Rigo was given the refit of the doubt. It's one rule for one and one rule for another in boxing. That's about the 3rd episode of play acting I've seen in a month or two as well. Pathetic.

IT wrote:

handsofstone wrote:

IT wrote: Yeah but was it intentional?

You can hit someone with the head unintentional , not a punch, he might not have meant it but by the rules he should've been DQ'd, if Flores landed first then he should've been DQ'd

Yeah but the thing is they both threw punches after the bell. It's just that Rigondeauxs got there first.

True mate, if you get into an exchange then get off first, unless its after the bell then your the one that's punished

lol...apparently someone in the HBO truck mistakenly told the commission that the punch landed before the bell, hence the ruling

crusader wrote:lol...apparently someone in the HBO truck mistakenly told the commission that the punch landed before the bell, hence the ruling

The ref taking the word of "a person in the HBO truck".

Supremo wrote:As the name fighter Rigo was given the refit of the doubt. It's one rule for one and one rule for another in boxing. That's about the 3rd episode of play acting I've seen in a month or two as well. Pathetic.

It's going to get worse. Feigning injury has paid dividends for years in football so it got more frequent. Seeing Dirrell win from a late shot a few weeks back was worrying, sets a bad precedent to take a dive.

Ricky_ wrote:

Supremo wrote:As the name fighter Rigo was given the refit of the doubt. It's one rule for one and one rule for another in boxing. That's about the 3rd episode of play acting I've seen in a month or two as well. Pathetic.

It's going to get worse. Feigning injury has paid dividends for years in football so it got more frequent. Seeing Dirrell win from a late shot a few weeks back was worrying, sets a bad precedent to take a dive.

I reckon you could be right. Football was always a man's sport. Now they are absolute pussies with no shame. I didn't think boxers would lower themselves to that level but once one or two of them do it then it makes it easier for others to follow and all that matters is getting the victory.

If it becomes widespread it could be the death of the sport. I've very little interest in football now and a major part of that is because of diving and play acting. I can't respect people that act like that.

Punch was well after the bell, but Flores pulled a Dirrell and flopped to the floor. F*ck him.

Either a DQ for Flores (if the foul was judged to have been deliberate) or an NC (if accidental). Whether Flores flopped or not doesn't excuse the foul that came before it (or more accurately, the fouls).

The referee lost the plot, had no idea what he was doing and is the next "Joe Cortez". Flores has left his reputation in tatters, Rigondeaux will continue to struggle to get opponents (even more so now that he can be percieved as dirty and having officials on his side) and the commissioner (from what was said on HBO) has come across like a clueless bellend. Oh and Rocnation look like they do the dirty with officials.

All in all, a nightmare for everyone involved! Good stuff boxing!

Boxing Prospect wrote:Either a DQ for Flores (if the foul was judged to have been deliberate) or an NC (if accidental). Whether Flores flopped or not doesn't excuse the foul that came before it (or more accurately, the fouls).

The referee lost the plot, had no idea what he was doing and is the next "Joe Cortez". Flores has left his reputation in tatters, Rigondeaux will continue to struggle to get opponents (even more so now that he can be percieved as dirty and having officials on his side) and the commissioner (from what was said on HBO) has come across like a clueless bellend. Oh and Rocnation look like they do the dirty with officials.

All in all, a nightmare for everyone involved! Good stuff boxing!

Agreed. The ref bottled it big time. He acknowledged the punch was illegal yet awarded Rigo the fight. Where's the logic there?

Are we forgetting the two punches landed before the bell where he was holding Chucky's head and wailing away, then the bell rings and he lands the big one?
Disgusting result.

gilgamesh wrote:Punch was well after the bell, but Flores pulled a Dirrell and flopped to the floor. F*ck him.

I kind of feel like that too. The ref acknowledged they were illegal punches...then Rigo lands after the bell...it's a clear DQ...but because the guy just flopped over I feel little sympathy...

DQ the only fair decision. You shouldnt be able to win a fight with a punch after the bell.

I might be the only one that thinks it should have been at most a NC, both fighters through after the bell and Rigo landed clean. Flores is going too get ridiculed when he gets back to Mexico, don't think the Mexicans will have enjoyed his stab at an Oscar winning performance!! haha

WildWaylon wrote:DQ the only fair decision. You shouldnt be able to win a fight with a punch after the bell.

You shouldn't be able to win by DQ by flopping to the canvas like a little p*ssy looking for an easy DQ win either.

David McAllister wrote:I might be the only one that thinks it should have been at most a NC, both fighters through after the bell and Rigo landed clean. Flores is going too get ridiculed when he gets back to Mexico, don't think the Mexicans will have enjoyed his stab at an Oscar winning performance!! haha

He deserves to get ridiculed. I'll never respect him again as a fighter. I'd never seen him before, but when I see a guy flop like that nothing he could ever do will ever redeem him as a fighter in my eyes.

I actually don't disagree with you that the proper ruling should have been a No Contest, but I'm not upset about the way it all worked out.

The guy flopped looking for a cheap win, and he got a lame loss instead. Serves him right.

100% dive by the hapless Mexican ( outclassed in 2 minutes no less ) He pointed and shook his head before swooning over like the sky had just landed on his head, a hilariously obvious attempt to steal the win.

Refereee Drrrracula completely ballsed it up with a jawdroppingly clueless ringside performance...could the dunderheaded buffoon not have listened to the replay ringside and hear the bell clearly go before the punch landed ? At least get something fu**ing right...what a farce, and not the first time he's messed up a big fight.

Only good I can say is at least the Mexican bandit got his just deserts: a loss, because he didn't deserve anything else.

Question of DQ or NC rests on whether it was clearly a deliberate act after the bell. The ref should be the judge of whether it was late and intentional. We however know that he wasn't sure when the bell went and was easily persuaded that the punch was before the bell. If the ref essentially believes that the punch that caused the theatrics was before the bell it is a KO to Rigo. If it was after the bell the worst can be a NC because it is clear that the bell wasn't heard by the ref so why would he assume that Rigo heard it?