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Who were the best Relentless "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 17:27
by Caractacus
PRESSURE-PRESSURE-PRESSURE !!
particularly those who may have been forgotten about over time.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 20:15
by Seamus
Wilfredo Gomez
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 15 Jun 2017, 20:22
by BitPlayer
Kevin Johnson.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 04:41
by NateJR
Rocky Marciano
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 04:55
by Noxy
Barry McGuigan loved the pressure game. He was always on the go.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:58
by elmersalsa
Out of my mind, I got:
Gene Fullmer
Emile Griffith
Aaron Pryor
Marcel Cerdan
Ray Oliveira
Joe Frazier
Roberto Duran
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 13:59
by elmersalsa
Chippo wrote:Fighting JCC must have been a ghastly experience.
Especially after the 8th round
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 14:26
by Kalan
Some great and not-so-great pressure guys -- as opposed to guys whose main focus was footwork, the jab, countering, out-boxing and outsmarting you.
Carlos Monzon... Gennady Golovkin... Aaron Pryor... Dick Tiger... Sergei Kovalev... Mike Tyson... Marvin Hagler... Mike McCallum... Tom Sharkey... Jack Dillon... Anthony Joshua... Billy Papke... Marcel Cerdan... Danny Lopez... Carlos Zarate... Lazlo Papp... Gustav Scholz... Henry Armstrong... Harry Greb... Jack Dempsey... Sonny Liston... Freddie Little... Bennie Briscoe... Ike Ibeabuchi... Vito Antuofermo... John Mugabi... Gato Gonzalez... Nigel Benn... Mauro Mina... Joe Frazier... Rocky Marciano... Rocky Graziano... Rocky Castellani... Rocky Lockridge... Rocky Gattellari... Rocky Gannon... and the fictional Rocky Balboa
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 14:32
by Kalan
elmersalsa wrote:Out of my mind, I got:
Gene Fullmer
Emile Griffith
Aaron Pryor
Marcel Cerdan
Ray Oliveira
Joe Frazier
Roberto Duran
Emile Griffith was primarily a boxer... The guy who blitzed him in the 1st round -- Hurricane Carter -- was a pressure guy to a great extent.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 14:50
by littlepug
Hatton and Hoko ?
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 16:06
by Caractacus
Dwight Muhammad Quai of course.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 16:07
by Caractacus
George Chuvalo,Scott LaDoux and Randall "Tex"Cobb.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 16:12
by Ambling Alp II
Hatton was not in the league of most mentioned.
Was just going to mention Qawi. LaMotta, and Tyson are a couple more. LeDoux and Cobb?
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Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 16:57
by Caractacus
yeah,the both were kind of slow but they pressured as best they could I think.
maybe LeDoux stepped backed to look at his handiwork a number of times,but Cobb never did.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 16:59
by Caractacus
Stanley Ketchel of course.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 17:13
by littlepug
Ambling Alp II wrote:Hatton was not in the league of most mentioned.
Was just going to mention Qawi. LaMotta, and Tyson are a couple more. LeDoux and Cobb?
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I know but at their level they were good at that game
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 18:44
by giacomino
Seamus wrote:Wilfredo Gomez
Great shout out. At junior featherweight he just got in your grill and took over. Boxed more as he moved up.
Others from the 70s and 80s include Mancini, Jose Luis Ramirez, Alfonso Zamora, Rafael "BAzooka" LĂmon and Santos Laciar
Another name that came to mind was Jeff Fenech
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 16 Jun 2017, 18:49
by Kalan
Caractacus wrote:George Chuvalo,Scott LaDoux and Randall "Tex"Cobb.
Ideally, if you're a pressure fighter, you have more than a chin.. You also have a big punch, and you're very durable in terms of conditioning -- not just having a great chin so that you can absorb forever.. And a little hand and foot speed would be ideal as well.. Mike Tyson was the prototype pressure fighter in terms of chin, durability, conditioning, strength, and speed..
Tyson had short arms which is a general characteristic of pressure fighters... Monzon and Zarate had very long arms and they could box well -- another attribute that pressure fighters generally don't have, but which really comes in handy... because there's always the guy like Foreman who is too big and strong to boss.
LaMotta, Cobb, and Chuvalo were what I would call punching bags -- more so than pressure fighters.. They could take a ton of punishment which also wears you out.. LaMotta absorbed ungodly amounts of punishment from Laurent Dauthuille and was certain to lose if the fight went another 13 seconds.. Dauthuille exhausted himself punching LaMotta in the head and tried his best to make the final bell, and was oooh so close.. But that only counts in horse shoes.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 17 Jun 2017, 05:03
by cfang
From what we know Id assume Greb.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 17 Jun 2017, 15:28
by Caractacus
Whene I think of a "pressure" fighter"I usually remember back in the 1990's when TV used to still have Boxing shows on ESPN and the USA Network,they showed a number of fights with featherweight Troy Dorsey
I remember he was a really good if not excellent pressure fighter (especially at 5 ft 5" and a 66 inch reach).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crUEhvVQxr0
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 17 Jun 2017, 21:43
by BoxBuzz
Frazier...Qawi would seem to fit....and the worst one, Leon Spinks.....I really think that's what he thought he was....and he attempted to fit the mold. And nope...didn't work.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 10:46
by Noxy
Caractacus wrote:Whene I think of a "pressure" fighter"I usually remember back in the 1990's when TV used to still have Boxing shows on ESPN and the USA Network,they showed a number of fights with featherweight Troy Dorsey
I remember he was a really good if not excellent pressure fighter (especially at 5 ft 5" and a 66 inch reach).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crUEhvVQxr0
Dorsey! He was great, always loved a scrap. I always liked watching him
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 11:25
by Syntax Error
Henry Armstrong - He never stopped punching.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 13:54
by Kalan
Syntax Error wrote:Henry Armstrong - He never stopped punching.
In between head butting, pushing, shoving and leveraging with his head, shoulders, forearms, elbows, and gloves... More a dirty fighter than a pressure guy... Henry didn't do that to guys like Beau Jack and Ray Robinson... And he stopped punching quite a bit in those fights.
Re: Who were the best "Pressure" Fighters ?
Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 14:50
by Keko
Henri Armstrong, Emille Grifith , Joe Frazier.