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It is shocking that 2 fights with the exact same circumstance (fighter being KO'd after the bell marginally) can have exact opposite outcomes in one case the KO result standing, in another a DQ is imposed. Inconsistencies and obvious biases like these, in addition to frequently repeated biased decisions, allowing of illegal tactics are all part of the reason boxing has lost all credibility as a sport.

Guillermo Rigondeaux tonight, KO'd Moises Flores after the bell. There was no DQ, or NC ruling. The fight was ruled a KO win for Rigondeaux.

Rigondeaux KO's Flores after the bell, no penalty from ref:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5U_kTci5c

Only a few weeks ago, Jose Uzcategui also seemed to KO Andre Dirrell after the bell, in extremely similar fashion, yet that fight resulted in Uzcategui being immediately DQ'd. Bizarrely, after that fight, Dirrell's team members assaulted Uzcategui, yet the result still stood.

Uzcategui KO's Dirrell after the bell then is DQ'd and assaulted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu079IQnug

What explains this blatant corruption and inconsistency in officiating, that in one case its OK to KO someone after the bell but in another case you get DQ'd for KOing someone after the bell? Is it just racism, or pro-black bias (in both cases it was the black boxers which benefitted from the biases), or nationalistic bias? Are the officials bought out and favouring some guys over others?

I guess both official winners are from America or have some connection with it?

I do agree they missed the call here. Rigo should have been DQ'd or the fight a NC at worst.

I disagree on your reasons. Rigo is from Cuba and is not black. He doesn't generate money and has no promoter pull behind him. It's just a missed call.

armageto wrote:I do agree they missed the call here. Rigo should have been DQ'd or the fight a NC at worst.

I disagree on your reasons. Rigo is from Cuba and is not black. He doesn't generate money and has no promoter pull behind him. It's just a missed call.

Rigo is not black ?

ValMar wrote:

armageto wrote:I do agree they missed the call here. Rigo should have been DQ'd or the fight a NC at worst.

I disagree on your reasons. Rigo is from Cuba and is not black. He doesn't generate money and has no promoter pull behind him. It's just a missed call.

Rigo is not black ?

He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

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ValMar wrote:

armageto wrote:I do agree they missed the call here. Rigo should have been DQ'd or the fight a NC at worst.

I disagree on your reasons. Rigo is from Cuba and is not black. He doesn't generate money and has no promoter pull behind him. It's just a missed call.

Rigo is not black ?

He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

ValMar wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Rigo is not black ?

He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

How is he not white?

black privilege

Rigondeaux vs Flores should be NC for sure and I hope result will be changed.

Got KOed my a.ss, Flores doesn't deny being Mexican (that along with Argentine boxers) want to take advantage of the situation, since both punched after the bell, but his punch didn't hit and Rigo did, then Flores faked being KOed (shut down) and falling down while moving the legs and head on the ground since when 99% KOed boxers fall instantly and doesn't fake standing few half second and falling to the ground moving himself head, legs, blinking and moving eyes ... I also heard Malinagi saying something about it, just search for him saying it... .l.

I think both should be deemed "No Contest", I don't think Rigo or Uzzy won those fights with "intentional" fouls, there were simply both still swinging/fighting as the bell rang... surprised it doesn't happen more often to be honest.

There should be a rule that deals with shots on the bell... it's entirely reasonable a fighter could be throwing a punch or 2 as the bell is ringing.

A bit like traffic lights; they aren't green/red, you get a margin of error with the orange light. Perhaps a 1-second rule to give that margin of error to fighters still throwing on the bell... anything that lands >1second after the bell should be deemed illegal.

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ValMar wrote:

armageto wrote:I do agree they missed the call here. Rigo should have been DQ'd or the fight a NC at worst.

I disagree on your reasons. Rigo is from Cuba and is not black. He doesn't generate money and has no promoter pull behind him. It's just a missed call.

Rigo is not black ?

He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

He's not black, he's Spanish. OP is using black to reference African Americans. There are plenty of dark skinned Spanish people in the world, who on a job application would check the box marked Hispanic, not black.

armageto wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Rigo is not black ?

He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

He's not black, he's Spanish. OP is using black to reference African Americans. There are plenty of dark skinned Spanish people in the world, who on a job application would check the box marked Hispanic, not black.

Would you say he was a dark skinned Latino? He looks black to me, I don't mean African American, I mean of African heritage.

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armageto wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
He's clearly a white guy you daft racist.

He's not black, he's Spanish. OP is using black to reference African Americans. There are plenty of dark skinned Spanish people in the world, who on a job application would check the box marked Hispanic, not black.

Would you say he was a dark skinned Latino? He looks black to me, I don't mean African American, I mean of African heritage.

Correct, I would say and believe he identifies as being a dark skinned Hispanic.

Both fighters threw punches after the bell.

armageto wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

armageto wrote:
He's not black, he's Spanish. OP is using black to reference African Americans. There are plenty of dark skinned Spanish people in the world, who on a job application would check the box marked Hispanic, not black.

Would you say he was a dark skinned Latino? He looks black to me, I don't mean African American, I mean of African heritage.

Correct, I would say and believe he identifies as being a dark skinned Hispanic.

It is off topic, and race is not important to me, let us say that Rigo is Spanish speaking Afro-Caribbean.
I like him, but he did not deserve KO win yesterday - it should have been NC or DQ.

ValMar wrote:

armageto wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
Would you say he was a dark skinned Latino? He looks black to me, I don't mean African American, I mean of African heritage.

Correct, I would say and believe he identifies as being a dark skinned Hispanic.

It is off topic, and race is not important to me, let us say that Rigo is Spanish speaking Afro-Caribbean.
I like him, but he did not deserve KO win yesterday - it should have been NC or DQ.

Agree, it should have been a no contest IMO after reviewing it. Both guys were still punching after the bell.

Like I said, both guys threw after the bell. If it was Flores's punch that KO'd Rigo, I doubt there would be much bitching.

Badhusker wrote:Like I said, both guys threw after the bell. If it was Flores's punch that KO'd Rigo, I doubt there would be much bitching.

Berore the bell, Rigo grab and hold his opponent's neck with one hand, punching him in the same time with another hand. It was illegal, definitely.

What Rigo did was worse than what Uzcategui did due to preceding illegal punches which prepared the final punch.

boxing_rocks wrote:What Rigo did was worse than what Uzcategui did due to preceding illegal punches which prepared the final punch.

Yes.

Punch was well after the bell, but Flores pulled a Dirrell and flopped to the floor. F*ck him.

Another black eye for a dying sport.

No consistency whatsoever in the way the sport is officiated, and certain boxers obviously benefitting from fixes based on their race, nationality, or promotional backing.

Still waiting for a comment from the corrupt Nevada State Athletic Commission on this farce (won't hold my breath tho, these are the same jokers who after viewing a photo of Ward punching Kovalev in the balls called the KO "legal and legitimate").

Badhusker wrote:Like I said, both guys threw after the bell. If it was Flores's punch that KO'd Rigo, I doubt there would be much bitching.

TOTALLY agreed, ppl cry too much today and accept less the facts...

imaioral wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Like I said, both guys threw after the bell. If it was Flores's punch that KO'd Rigo, I doubt there would be much bitching.

TOTALLY agreed, ppl cry too much today and accept less the facts...

If it was Flores who KO'ed Rigo, he would be most certainly DQ'ed.