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Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 17:21
by Caractacus

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 17:43
by Nile4000
Shame Marvin couldn't do what Alex Ramos did to Juan back in the day.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 18:02
by handsofstone
Funnily enough I just watched Roldan's fight with Hearns tonight, he hurt Tommy a few times but couldn't take the power of the Hitman

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 06:56
by Flump
Nile4000 wrote:Shame Marvin couldn't do what Alex Ramos did to Juan back in the day.
Can you elaborate Nile, did Ramos KO him in sparring or something?

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 09:35
by Nile4000
Flump wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:Shame Marvin couldn't do what Alex Ramos did to Juan back in the day.
Can you elaborate Nile, did Ramos KO him in sparring or something?
Flump, it was actually an amateur fight they had where Ramos floored him twice, and they stopped it. Makes me wonder how Alex did in his spars with Marvin.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 15:20
by Flump
Nile4000 wrote:
Flump wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:Shame Marvin couldn't do what Alex Ramos did to Juan back in the day.
Can you elaborate Nile, did Ramos KO him in sparring or something?
Flump, it was actually an amateur fight they had where Ramos floored him twice, and they stopped it. Makes me wonder how Alex did in his spars with Marvin.
Thanks Nile, didn't know that. I know Ramos was a hell of an amateur who disappointed a bit as a pro.

Certainly Roldan is a lot over his old fighting weight these days.

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Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 15:21
by Flump
Flump wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:
Flump wrote:
Can you elaborate Nile, did Ramos KO him in sparring or something?
Flump, it was actually an amateur fight they had where Ramos floored him twice, and they stopped it. Makes me wonder how Alex did in his spars with Marvin.
Thanks Nile, didn't know that. I know Ramos was a hell of an amateur who disappointed a bit as a pro.

Certainly Roldan is a lot over his old fighting weight these days. Almost unrecognizable.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 15:22
by Flump
Flump wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:
Flump wrote:
Can you elaborate Nile, did Ramos KO him in sparring or something?
Flump, it was actually an amateur fight they had where Ramos floored him twice, and they stopped it. Makes me wonder how Alex did in his spars with Marvin.
Thanks Nile, didn't know that. I know Ramos was a hell of an amateur who disappointed a bit as a pro.

Certainly Roldan is a lot over his old fighting weight these days. Almost unrecognisable

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 15:48
by Caractacus
Three years and 13 fights later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ADfCJ0XT0

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 11:05
by Kalan
At 1:38 of this Video Larry Merchant says.., "Even Roldan's own manager says he's not that good of a boxer, leaves himself open, and Hagler can pick him apart." ... That goes a long way toward explaining why Roldan was such a low quality Middleweight -- and why chinny Tommy Hearns beat the crap out of him.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 13:09
by Flump
Kalan wrote:
At 1:38 of this Video Larry Merchant says.., "Even Roldan's own manager says he's not that good of a boxer, leaves himself open, and Hagler can pick him apart." ... That goes a long way toward explaining why Roldan was such a low quality Middleweight -- and why chinny Tommy Hearns beat the crap out of him.
Yeah losing to Hearns really makes you low quality. :zzz:

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 15:45
by Caractacus
Roldan obviously had Thomas Hearns in trouble in a few spots,it even looked like Hearns was going to go down but
he hugged Roldan like he was a long lost brother he hadnt seen in 25 years when he was hurt.
I think Roldan should have went more for the body.
how many body shots did you count that landed or even thrown against The Hitman ?

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 16:50
by Kalan
Flump.. "losing to Hearns really makes you low quality"

Considering that Hagler and Barkley both knocked the sh!t out of Hearns -- and Barkley beat Hearns twice, knocking him down 3 times??? You're right, it does.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 16:56
by Seamus
It was after the Roldan fight that I first noticed Hearns slurring his words.

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 17:19
by Flump
Kalan wrote:Flump.. "losing to Hearns really makes you low quality"

Considering that Hagler and Barkley both knocked the sh!t out of Hearns -- and Barkley beat Hearns twice, knocking him down 3 times??? You're right, it does.
:zzz:

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 18:20
by Caractacus
do you believe that Juan Domingo Roldan was only 5 ft 7" tall with a 69 and one-fourth inch reach ?

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 18:28
by Caractacus
This here was Juan Domingo Roldan's tune-up fight before he fought Hearns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgKKlPwSMyY

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 25 Jun 2017, 20:14
by Kalan
Flump wrote:
Kalan wrote:Flump.. "losing to Hearns really makes you low quality"

Considering that Hagler and Barkley both knocked the sh!t out of Hearns -- and Barkley beat Hearns twice, knocking him down 3 times??? You're right, it does.
:zzz:
You doing your imitation of Tommy Hearns????

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 25 Jun 2017, 20:21
by ClivePatrickLyons
Kalan wrote:
Flump wrote:
Kalan wrote:Flump.. "losing to Hearns really makes you low quality"

Considering that Hagler and Barkley both knocked the sh!t out of Hearns -- and Barkley beat Hearns twice, knocking him down 3 times??? You're right, it does.
:zzz:
You doing your imitation of Tommy Hearns????

Your a terrible person Kalan the way you bag LEGEND'S :shame:

Re: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vrs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984)

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 12:42
by Flump
Kalan wrote:
Flump wrote:
Kalan wrote:Flump.. "losing to Hearns really makes you low quality"

Considering that Hagler and Barkley both knocked the sh!t out of Hearns -- and Barkley beat Hearns twice, knocking him down 3 times??? You're right, it does.
:zzz:
You doing your imitation of Tommy Hearns????
You will never reach the level of Hearns Kalan, and I'll tell you why. It's because you're a miserable athlete and no top trainer will work with you.