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Ok first I must declare an interest. I’m a Joshua fan no question about it, but that doesn’t mean I hate on the competition not at all.

I do think that potentially Deontay Wilder is the most exciting fighter in the division in terms of his terrific power, his vulnerability and his unorthodox and unpredictable movement. I say potentially because whether you blame him or not, he hasn’t fought anyone worthy of a title shot since beating Stiverne for the title two and a half years ago. That leaves us guessing about Just how good or how poor he actually is.

He is I am sure, very genuine in his intentions to fight Joshua in a unification fight. He knows that at very best he is a slight favourite and in a great many people’s opinion he is regarded as anywhere between 50/50 and a sacrificial lamb. He hasn’t shown himself a great risk-taker so why fight Joshua rather than Parker for example?

Obviously it’s the money and that’s not a dishonourable reason. I’m perfectly certain he wouldn’t be interested in fighting Joshua if AJ were a Nigerian based in Lagos or Abouja whether he held the IBF/WBA straps or not.

I think he figures if he is going to take a dangerous fight where he stands a good chance of losing his belt, he’d better make sure It’s a big big payout.

Realistically though he isn’t going to be fighting Joshua anytime soon. Joshua has got commitments to re-match Klitschko if WK takes up his contractual option. He has also got two mandatories against Ortiz and Pulev and it looks likely whichever one he decides to fight means he loses the other belt.

Why would he want to fight Wilder instead of these guys? Joshua has shown he isn’t scared of anyone, but DW is a high risk/ low reward fight and Wilder isn’t exactly a superstar in the US never mind in the UK. He’ll get around to him eventually no doubt, meanwhile Deontay should do something about raising his profile and making sure UK casuals know he’s the man.

A perfect opportunity seems to have been presented to him in the form of Dillian Whyte who can be guaranteed to make a fight of it yet shouldn’t present Wilder with too many problems if Deontay is as good as he claims to be.

Deontay has been allegedly offered about £3m to fight Whyte and has turned it down flat. This is Wilder's biggest payday by some distance.

People will draw their own conclusions as to his reasons and you can bet he’s going to get dog’s abuse from a good proportion of boxing fans. What do you think about it?

Lol.

If Wilder isn't facing guys AT LEAST on the level of Whyte what business has he calling himself champion.

I mean Whyte is the bare minimum here.

I predict extremely lucrative fight (AJ vs DW) next year in UK. Joshua is better one, I have no doubts, but Wilder would have puncher's chance, it would be something like 75/25 type of fight. Before Joshua, Wilder will likely face two fighters who belong to top 10-20 HW. Miller would be the proper first opponent - big and strong, but slow HW.

I'm not a fan of Wilder, but it seems hard to believe he was offered almost 3.5 million USD to fight a guy who just went life and death with Chisora. Not like it would be a PPV over here or sellout a large boxing venue. I don't know why he'd turn down a fight with a C level boxer, when he's beaten Arreola, Stiverne, and Duhaupas, who I rate higher than Whyte.

Wilder should be fighting better opposition than Whyte, he's had enough easy ones.

Wilder should fight Ward.

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Good one.

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Good one.

Ward and Hunter are talking about fighting Joshua. I don't understand why they are ignoring their countryman who thinks that he is the best HW.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Good one.

Ward and Hunter are talking about fighting Joshua. I don't understand why they are ignoring their countryman who thinks that he is the best HW.

There is exponentially more money in fighting AJ.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Good one.

Ward and Hunter are talking about fighting Joshua. I don't understand why they are ignoring their countryman who thinks that he is the best HW.

You can bet on Ward's win by DQ. Any honest American ref would not permit Wilder to hit SOG too hard.

ValMar wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Good one.

Ward and Hunter are talking about fighting Joshua. I don't understand why they are ignoring their countryman who thinks that he is the best HW.

You can bet on Ward's win by DQ. Any honest American ref would not permit Wilder to hit SOG too hard.

The butthurt is with you.

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Ward and Hunter are talking about fighting Joshua. I don't understand why they are ignoring their countryman who thinks that he is the best HW.

You can bet on Ward's win by DQ. Any honest American ref would not permit Wilder to hit SOG too hard.

The butthurt is with you.

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Yes, Bellew is too dangerous.

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Yes, Bellew is too dangerous.

The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Just read Hearn wanted options on Wilder, so he turned it down.

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Wilder should fight Ward.

Yes, Bellew is too dangerous.

The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Eh? What is it you mumbling?

Unless he's looking to get a better opponent this is pretty sorry.

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Yes, Bellew is too dangerous.

The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Eh? What is it you mumbling?

SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

Like I told you - Wilder is a fraud hoax and only gets in the ring with stiffs and patsies controlled by Al Haymon. White is way too dangerous for Fraud Wilder to fight in a REAL fight and Al Haymon aint lettin it happen.

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote: The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Eh? What is it you mumbling?

SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

Thats irrelevant to my post. I am talking about Deon here. CW is too dangerous for the fake champ.

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote: The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Eh? What is it you mumbling?

SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

SOGgy/SORry/SOJjy ?

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Eh? What is it you mumbling?

SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

Thats irrelevant to my post. I am talking about Deon here. CW is too dangerous for the fake champ.

Wilder would literally knock Bellew back to the days of Stonehenge.

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote: SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

Thats irrelevant to my post. I am talking about Deon here. CW is too dangerous for the fake champ.

Wilder would literally knock Bellew back to the days of Stonehenge.

If only he had minerals.

No doubt I'm biased. I love artistry in a boxer but even more than that I love fighters who aren't scared to fight anyone, anywhere, any time. Behind Joshua in my favourite heavyweights but ahead of most others, are former AJ victims Dillian Whyte and Dominic Breazeale. I think either of these guys gives Wilder all the trouble he can handle. I don't know how many Brits share my regard for Breazeale but I'm pretty convinced most respect Whyte as a warrior. Maybe he isn't as good as Stiverne or Arreola were at their peak, but I'd rate him well above Arreola these days and no one has seen enough of Stiverne to gauge what he's got left. Guess we'll know soon enough. Besides Dill only had seven amateur fights and he's learning as he goes.

I'm sure Deontay would come under fire for fighting lowly Whyte, but DW is no stranger to criticism, and many will consider Whyte among the toughest of his "realistic opponents"' Realistic being who's left once you cross fellow belt-holders off the list, alongwith big risk opponents like Ortiz who Wilder clearly wants no part of, Klitschko also an undesirable and not looking at Wilder anyway, and the evil bogeyman Povetkin.

Who else grants Wilder more kudos than (beating) Dillian Whyte? Who earns him more money, who gets him greater exposure in the UK, and earns him the respect of the UK fans? He's going to be relying on them to be noisily clamouring for his unification mega pay-out?

It's a race against time: Can he get Joshua in the ring before he is forced to fight someone good enough to relieve him of his green belt for just a regular defense payday?

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote: The butthurt is thick in here like gas at an indoor chili and cherry pie cookoff.

Eh? What is it you mumbling?

SOGgy would beat Bellew's ass from here to Stonehenge.

I assume that the fight would be in the U.K., so Ward's "skills" would be neutralized by a hostile or at least neutral ref. How do you expect him to bother much bigger Bellew without low blows, head butts, elbows, non-stop clinching? Yes, Bellew is not even a top 5 CW, but he will crush Ward's balls and wipe the fake smile from his face. Hunter will throw a towel.