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Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 13:50
by montrealsuper
Certainly see the parallels...

http://spam.com/2017/06/22/peop ... d-hopkins/

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 13:50
by Tanzio
No

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 13:54
by montrealsuper
Six US judge and two US refs in two fights - I'd call that highly suspicious. And anything but a level playing field. The fix could have been in to get rid of the Russian and keep the titles and the business in house.

Oh pardon me. You are fight, there is never and there never was and never will be any corruption in boxing. Silly me. :clap:

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 13:56
by gilgamesh
I never saw the Holmes fight in question, but the Hopkins fight they refer to there in that article he wasn't robbed.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 13:58
by Tanzio
montrealsuper wrote:Six US judge and two US refs in two fights - I'd call that highly suspicious. And anything but a level playing field. The fix could have been in to get rid of the Russian and keep the titles and the business in house.

Oh pardon me. You are fight, there is never and there never was and never will be any corruption in boxing. Silly me. :clap:
I answered your question directly. Do not attempt to represent your words as my opinion. :shame:

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 14:02
by armageto
Once the headline was People's Champ, I stopped reading...

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 15:04
by ldlamb
Kovalev fought one even fight that happened to go the other way.......then he essentially quit fighting in the second fight.

If Holmes or Hopkins ever did this, then sure....same thing.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 16:20
by Blodhemn
He was robbed like Kovalev. The first fight was more convincing than either Hopkins fights against Taylor.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 16:51
by IKSRTFO
montrealsuper wrote:Six US judge and two US refs in two fights - I'd call that highly suspicious. And anything but a level playing field. The fix could have been in to get rid of the Russian and keep the titles and the business in house.

Oh pardon me. You are fight, there is never and there never was and never will be any corruption in boxing. Silly me. :clap:

And all of that could've been moot if Kovalev just KO'd Ward both fights like he and his fans thought he would.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 16:55
by punchoutsb
IKSRTFO wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Six US judge and two US refs in two fights - I'd call that highly suspicious. And anything but a level playing field. The fix could have been in to get rid of the Russian and keep the titles and the business in house.

Oh pardon me. You are fight, there is never and there never was and never will be any corruption in boxing. Silly me. :clap:

And all of that could've been moot if Kovalev just KO'd Ward both fights like he and his fans thought he would.
I don't buy into the anti Russian conspiracy for a minute, but that's a pretty lame comeback regardless.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 16:58
by Butterbean
first fight is the worst effing robbery in a top fight in years. yuck...
And by the way. the author of that article knows his business...

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 17:03
by greg
punchoutsb wrote:
I don't buy into the anti Russian conspiracy for a minute, but that's a pretty lame comeback regardless.
..it's not so much about conspiracy about any particular nation, it's about obvious inability/unwillingness to create a level playfield for ALL parties concerned ..

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 17:07
by Tanzio
Butterbean wrote:first fight is the worst effing robbery in a top fight in years. yuck...
And by the way. the author of that article knows his business...
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Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 18:58
by Kalan
gilgamesh wrote:I never saw the Holmes fight in question, but the Hopkins fight they refer to there in that article he wasn't robbed.
Hopkins was robbed blind in both Taylor fights.. He won easily.. Holmes lost the 1st Spinks fight legitimately, but he was robbed in the rematch.

Robberies are reality in Boxing.. They happen all the time.. However those weren't as bad as the 2 Kovalev-Ward robberies.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 19:19
by BitPlayer
Robbed of taking more of a beating.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 19:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:I never saw the Holmes fight in question, but the Hopkins fight they refer to there in that article he wasn't robbed.
Spinks clearly won. What morons these guys are. Hey Mark, it was a 15 round fight bro. I had it 10-5 spinks, Larry edged the rematch.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 19:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
Butterbean wrote:first fight is the worst effing robbery in a top fight in years. yuck...
And by the way. the author of that article knows his business...
That guy knows shit.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 19:56
by IKSRTFO
punchoutsb wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Six US judge and two US refs in two fights - I'd call that highly suspicious. And anything but a level playing field. The fix could have been in to get rid of the Russian and keep the titles and the business in house.

Oh pardon me. You are fight, there is never and there never was and never will be any corruption in boxing. Silly me. :clap:

And all of that could've been moot if Kovalev just KO'd Ward both fights like he and his fans thought he would.
I don't buy into the anti Russian conspiracy for a minute, but that's a pretty lame comeback regardless.
Not a comeback. A Fact.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 20:03
by Boxing Prospect
Butterbean wrote:first fight is the worst effing robbery in a top fight in years. yuck...
And by the way. the author of that article knows his business...
Go watch Murata Vs N'Dam ....and that was from just a few weeks ago FFS!

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 21:15
by punchoutsb
IKSRTFO wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:

And all of that could've been moot if Kovalev just KO'd Ward both fights like he and his fans thought he would.
I don't buy into the anti Russian conspiracy for a minute, but that's a pretty lame comeback regardless.
Not a comeback. A Fact.
A lame fact then :TU:

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 22:07
by IKSRTFO
punchoutsb wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
I don't buy into the anti Russian conspiracy for a minute, but that's a pretty lame comeback regardless.
Not a comeback. A Fact.
A lame fact then :TU:
Truth isn't always meant to be exciting.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017, 22:31
by punchoutsb
IKSRTFO wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
Not a comeback. A Fact.
A lame fact then :TU:
Truth isn't always meant to be exciting.
Who said it was?

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 01:09
by BAD INTENTIONS
Kovalev is a bully fighter.
Ward had him figured down the stretch of the 1st fight.
In the beginning of the 2nd fight, Kovalev didn't hold/headlock Ward as much.
He couldn't keep the pace and was gassing from the 3rd round.

But like a bully,
when he realized his legs were shot,
and he'd have to endure a beating like a man,
and gut it out like Ward did,
he started to look for a way out.

This Freedom-led coalition against Ward needs to stop.
To me, this is no different than Zab quitting against Clottey.

Kovalev quit.

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 02:52
by Best Coast
armageto wrote:Once the headline was People's Champ, I stopped reading...
:lol: :OhYes:

Good one. Any idiot can puke up nonsense like that and try to pawn it off as a sports blog!! :brick:

Re: Was Kovalev robbed just like Larry Holmes and Hopkins?

Posted: 23 Jun 2017, 02:56
by Best Coast
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Kovalev is a bully fighter.
Ward had him figured down the stretch of the 1st fight.
In the beginning of the 2nd fight, Kovalev didn't hold/headlock Ward as much.
He couldn't keep the pace and was gassing from the 3rd round.

But like a bully,
when he realized his legs were shot,
and he'd have to endure a beating like a man,
and gut it out like Ward did,
he started to look for a way out.

This Freedom-led coalition against Ward needs to stop.
To me, this is no different than Zab quitting against Clottey.

Kovalev quit.
Excellent analysis...I agree 100%!!

"Freedom-led coalition" is a classic. Fortunately Freedom 2013 said if Kovalev "got robbed" he would quit following boxing!! Hopefully he will keep his word and return to his blatant racist websites he used to tout when he posted here under the name "Tunney."