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Precise Presenter, right on target, as always.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o0WjGqY7Fo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMXCsy7cCYA

What a waste of fuckin time. Ward won. End of.

Hard to argue with the guy.

I watched a minute of the second video and the guy is just lying.

Nice analysis even with the bias against Ward. Just watching those 3 rounds tells you all that you need to know as to why Ward is so unpopular to fans. During the fight, it appeared to me that both guys were initiating the holds and clinches but it was clearly Ward through the first 3. And to not even be warned for A. Holding B. Holding and Punching C. Leading with head D. Rabbit punches is really ridiculous.

But, you play the game they give you. Meaning, some refs don't let you get away with bullshiit so you have to play it that way and fight clean. But some refs let BS go and then it's a street fight in which you need to fight fire with fire. Instead of doing that, Kovalev spent all of his energy playing it fair and dealing with the BS. That's exhausting. If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

But there's no doubt that Weeks is God awful and shouldn't be near a PPV ring even as a spectator.

I'm not watching what this racist idiot has to say.

BitPlayer wrote:

I'm not watching what this idiot has to say.

There's a part where Kovalev slightly slips the jab but the palm lands and he talks for a minute about Ward trying to damage the soft tissue around Kovalev's eyes with his laces, I shit you not seconds later as the video moves on the same thing happens but the other way around and he says literally nothing. I've never seen a worse video of a fight break down. It's laughable.

Covfefe wrote:There's a part where Kovalev slightly slips the jab but the palm lands and he talks for a minute about Ward trying to damage the soft tissue around Kovalev's eyes with his laces, I poo you not seconds later as the video moves on the same thing happens but the other way around and he says literally nothing. I've never seen a worse video of a fight break down. It's laughable.

I'm not surprised at all. The comments are worth reading for a laugh though. A bounty of slurs, salt and bile.

caldo2025 wrote:If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

Kovalev threw a ton of rabbit punches, and put Ward in a headlock more than once.

caldo2025 wrote:If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

..I would do same thing if the venue were "neutral", with the home town refereeing/officiating he could have been disqualified..

Another objective video by a completely biased Krushedner disciple.

Squeal on.

caldo2025 wrote:Nice analysis even with the bias against Ward. Just watching those 3 rounds tells you all that you need to know as to why Ward is so unpopular to fans. During the fight, it appeared to me that both guys were initiating the holds and clinches but it was clearly Ward through the first 3. And to not even be warned for A. Holding B. Holding and Punching C. Leading with head D. Rabbit punches is really ridiculous.

But, you play the game they give you. Meaning, some refs don't let you get away with bullshiit so you have to play it that way and fight clean. But some refs let BS go and then it's a street fight in which you need to fight fire with fire. Instead of doing that, Kovalev spent all of his energy playing it fair and dealing with the BS. That's exhausting. If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

But there's no doubt that Weeks is God awful and shouldn't be near a PPV ring even as a spectator.

Same thing here. If I saw the ref was crooked and was ignoring the other guy's low blows I would have thrown low blows as low as I could and f 'em. Of course then the Weeks half of the Weeks-Ward tag team would have swung into action, but f 'em. He shouldn't have just taken it like that. PP is right too, however he presented it - K's corner threw him under the bus. They should have been loudly protesting what was going on in the ring.

Precise Presenter's latest - the CompuBox Fraud. I suspected as much but never counted the punches like he did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJjSW2 ... YhwLY9NNU4

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

Kovalev threw a ton of rabbit punches, and put Ward in a headlock more than once.

The headlocks were a result of Ward ducking and lunging in. Those headlocks are what sapped Kovalev's energy the most i think too. I did notice the light rabbit punching but it was ineffective like most of Kovalev's punches that night. He had nothing behind anything he threw.

caldo2025 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:If I were Kovalev, i would have tripped Ward every time he came in...rabbit punched, head but, low blow. Screw it. It's a street fight at that point.

Kovalev threw a ton of rabbit punches, and put Ward in a headlock more than once.

The headlocks were a result of Ward ducking and lunging in. Those headlocks are what sapped Kovalev's energy the most i think too. I did notice the light rabbit punching but it was ineffective like most of Kovalev's punches that night. He had nothing behind anything he threw.

SOGgy made a conscious effort to make Krushedner grapple which they knew made him uncomfortable. The type of grappling he was manipulated into doing was a borderline foul on his part and it sapped his strength.

Krushedner also landed several low blows. The difference is that SOGgy paid no attention to them, rather than acting like an actor trying out for a scene in which the character is shot.

Krushedner is just out of his depth tactically with SOGgy. He needs to go back to fighting old men and dudes who will stand at range and let him punch them.

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: Kovalev threw a ton of rabbit punches, and put Ward in a headlock more than once.

The headlocks were a result of Ward ducking and lunging in. Those headlocks are what sapped Kovalev's energy the most i think too. I did notice the light rabbit punching but it was ineffective like most of Kovalev's punches that night. He had nothing behind anything he threw.

SOGgy made a conscious effort to make Krushedner grapple which they knew made him uncomfortable. The type of grappling he was manipulated into doing was a borderline foul on his part and it sapped his strength.

Krushedner also landed several low blows. The difference is that SOGgy paid no attention to them, rather than acting like an actor trying out for a scene in which the character is shot.

Krushedner is just out of his depth tactically with SOGgy. He needs to go back to fighting old men and dudes who will stand at range and let him punch them.

Ward is definitely inside his head. I think Kovalev still won most of the rounds in both fights, he just couldn't maintain the pace. Someone with a boxing brain could have devised a way for Kovalev to last longer in these fights. I believe that. Kovalev obviously was outwitted in this one. Not the first one, but this one. Kovalev won the first fight and no one can tell me otherwise.

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
The headlocks were a result of Ward ducking and lunging in. Those headlocks are what sapped Kovalev's energy the most i think too. I did notice the light rabbit punching but it was ineffective like most of Kovalev's punches that night. He had nothing behind anything he threw.

SOGgy made a conscious effort to make Krushedner grapple which they knew made him uncomfortable. The type of grappling he was manipulated into doing was a borderline foul on his part and it sapped his strength.

Krushedner also landed several low blows. The difference is that SOGgy paid no attention to them, rather than acting like an actor trying out for a scene in which the character is shot.

Krushedner is just out of his depth tactically with SOGgy. He needs to go back to fighting old men and dudes who will stand at range and let him punch them.

Ward is definitely inside his head. I think Kovalev still won most of the rounds in both fights, he just couldn't maintain the pace. Someone with a boxing brain could have devised a way for Kovalev to last longer in these fights. I believe that. Kovalev obviously was outwitted in this one. Not the first one, but this one. Kovalev won the first fight and no one can tell me otherwise.

The first fight was razor thin. I scored it 114-113 SOGgy realtime and I was hoping for a Krushedner KO / victory. Krushedner has only himself to blame for that being so close. I would have had no problem with a close Krushedner verdict but those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

Tanzio wrote: those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

Close but clear.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Tanzio wrote: those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

Close but clear.

Too many close rounds to be clear.

Precise Presenter and all his boxing videos seem to have been censored by Youtube. PP said he was black or part black, and then he started showing a photo of a white guy, but that photo didn't fit the voice, and simultaneous with the photo came deliberately provoking posts. So what was actually going on there?

Anyway, I thought they were very good videos pinpointing the dirty fighting of the Weeks-Ward tag team. I especially liked PP's latest video exposing the CompuBox scam. I always expected as much but never actually counted the punches and compared that with the CompuBox numbers.

Did Weeks really apologize on Twitter or is that fake news?

Tanzio wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Tanzio wrote: those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

Close but clear.

Too many close rounds to be clear.

If this troll says a round was close and not a clear win for Ward than you know it must have been like 10-8 for Kovalev!

x2x wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:
Close but clear.

Too many close rounds to be clear.

If this troll says a round was close and not a clear win for Ward than you know it must have been like 10-8 for Kovalev!

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: SOGgy made a conscious effort to make Krushedner grapple which they knew made him uncomfortable. The type of grappling he was manipulated into doing was a borderline foul on his part and it sapped his strength.

Krushedner also landed several low blows. The difference is that SOGgy paid no attention to them, rather than acting like an actor trying out for a scene in which the character is shot.

Krushedner is just out of his depth tactically with SOGgy. He needs to go back to fighting old men and dudes who will stand at range and let him punch them.

Ward is definitely inside his head. I think Kovalev still won most of the rounds in both fights, he just couldn't maintain the pace. Someone with a boxing brain could have devised a way for Kovalev to last longer in these fights. I believe that. Kovalev obviously was outwitted in this one. Not the first one, but this one. Kovalev won the first fight and no one can tell me otherwise.

The first fight was razor thin. I scored it 114-113 SOGgy realtime and I was hoping for a Krushedner KO / victory. Krushedner has only himself to blame for that being so close. I would have had no problem with a close Krushedner verdict but those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

The reason that i'm so adamant about that opinion is that mathematically, I don't see how it could have been possible. Kovalev only needed to win 5 rounds for the draw because of that knockdown. Heck, i had him doing that already by the 7th round. But the rounds were so close in the second half of the fight and Ward won 17 out of 18 of those judgements? No way. Uh uh.

Not saying judging was crooked exactly but I think psychologically, the early knockdown really helped Ward with those judges. The judges knew that put Ward in a tough position in terms of points so i think that it skewed the way they scored the rest of the fight. They weren't going to give Kovalev any close rounds unless they were obvious. Ward was going to get all of the close ones. Instead of scoring each round independently from the others, I feel that they were looking too much at the total picture of the fight. Can't do that.

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Ward is definitely inside his head. I think Kovalev still won most of the rounds in both fights, he just couldn't maintain the pace. Someone with a boxing brain could have devised a way for Kovalev to last longer in these fights. I believe that. Kovalev obviously was outwitted in this one. Not the first one, but this one. Kovalev won the first fight and no one can tell me otherwise.

The first fight was razor thin. I scored it 114-113 SOGgy realtime and I was hoping for a Krushedner KO / victory. Krushedner has only himself to blame for that being so close. I would have had no problem with a close Krushedner verdict but those who think that the first fight was clear cut are deluding themselves, "and no one can tell me otherwise."

The reason that i'm so adamant about that opinion is that mathematically, I don't see how it could have been possible. Kovalev only needed to win 5 rounds for the draw because of that knockdown. Heck, i had him doing that already by the 7th round. But the rounds were so close in the second half of the fight and Ward won 17 out of 18 of those judgements? No way. Uh uh.

Not saying judging was crooked exactly but I think psychologically, the early knockdown really helped Ward with those judges. The judges knew that put Ward in a tough position in terms of points so i think that it skewed the way they scored the rest of the fight. They weren't going to give Kovalev any close rounds unless they were obvious. Ward was going to get all of the close ones. Instead of scoring each round independently from the others, I feel that they were looking too much at the total picture of the fight. Can't do that.

Fair enough, but I disagree. There were quite a few close rounds in the first seven too, just as there were last week. I pretty much split the close rounds in the first fight. If I gave either fighter every single close round I would have had it 116-111 Krushedner or 117-111 SOGgy.

Therefore, in my opinion, it was the definition of razor close. Scoring it realtime, I had it 114-113 SOGgy. Again, I was rooting for Krushedner. If I had flip flopped one of the close rounds it would have been 114-113 Krushedner. If I had scored every close round 10-10 it would have been 117-116 SOGgy. If I had scored one close round 10-10 it would have been 114-114.

It was razor close.

I have watched the second fight three times now, while watching the 7th and 8th very closely probably ten times. On the third complete watching I chose to give Krushedner every possible benefit of the doubt. Being completely biased, the best score I could come up with for Krushedner is 69-67 going into the eighth. The first, realtime score I had was 67-66 Krushedner going into the eighth. The second viewing I had it 67-66 SOGgy.

The difference this time is Krushedner had decided to act his way out of the fight in no later than the seventh. Furthermore, Krushedner landed the most egregious low blow of the fight in the eighth. Again, the difference being SOGgy walked through it to win the fight while Krushedner did his best war movie, "I've been shot " act.

Why are you deliberately misspelling Krusher Kovalev's name, Tanzio? Is that what they suggest you do in the Troll's Handbook?

x2x wrote:Why are you deliberately misspelling Krusher Kovalev's name, Tanzio? Is that what they suggest you do in the Troll's Handbook?

Are you just sad your favorite racist's channel got taken off of YouTube? Now you can no longer watch his 40m manifesto on Steve Cunningham loading his gloves, or why he thinks Mayweather lost to Pacquiao, or his amazing expose of Anthony Joshua's dirty tactics against Wlad (dirty tactics in a competitive boxing match OH MY G D!!!!!!!!!).