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Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 17:16
by elmersalsa
On June 26, 1972 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, Roberto Duran from Panama City, Panama stopped in 13 rounds lightweight champion Ken Buchanan of Edinburgh, Scotland.

It was a brutal fight whoever got the chance to watch it. Duran, only 21 years old, attacked Buchanan from the opening bell. A minute into the fight and Buchanan suffered a knockdown. The champion thought it was a slip, but to his surprise, referee Johnny LoBianco of New York gave him a standing 8-count. It was the beginning of the end. For the next 12 rounds, Duran was on top of Buchanan like a lion on top of his prey. He beat Buchanan like if the Scot slept with his wife or something. It was a brilliant and extraordinary performance by The Hands of Stone, which at the time, was a relatively unknown challenger.

Buchanan's face looked like a total mess. Like if a train ran all over him. He couldn't keep the fearsome Panamanian off him. He tried everything. He used his fast jab and right crosses. It was useless. Like if Duran was never hurt from his punches.

Then came the faithful 13th round.

Anybody who has seen this fight, got to give Buchanan credit. He took some shots to the chin from The Hands of Stone. Another fighter, would have gone down to sleep in a flash. Out of more than 80 pro fights, Buchanan, ironically, has never been stopped by a punch to the chin. This time, he was stopped by a borderline shot to the abdomen, according to referee LoBianco. The New York press utterly believed it was a shot to the groin. Was it a shot to the groin or not? Should Duran supposed to be disqualified? Or not? Was Buchanan was acting on purpose that he received a low blow?

Some say that Buchanan complaints of a low blow was an excuse to get the win by DQ. He was getting a thrashing by Duran. And he was WAY FAR BEHIND in the scorecards.

Referee LoBianco didn't buy it and gave the victory to the new World Lightweight Champion, Roberto Duran!

This win by Duran, although a little bit controversial, put Panama in a frenzy. A new boxing hero who avenged the loss of his countryman, Ismael Laguna, to Buchanan a year earlier. Who would have thought that after this fight, we witnessed Duran's career that lasted for 3 more decades. Buchanan should not be ashamed about losing to Duran. He lost to maybe the greatest boxer of the last 52 years and a top 5 all time pound per pound great in boxing history.

THE AFTERMATH:
Duran went on to win 3 more world titles all the way to middleweight and fought 3 more decades. Meanwhile, Buchanan, never again got a rematch with the Hands of Stone. He challenged WBC World Lightweight Champion Guts Ishimatsu of Japan, a former Duran victim. Buchanan lost to Ishimatsu on points in Tokyo, Japan in 1975 and never again fought for a world title. He like disappeared from the boxing scene and was kind of forgotten on the face of the Earth. He got redeemed from all that when he got inducted into International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, NY in the year 2000. Duran got inducted in the same hall 7 years later.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 18:01
by handsofstone
Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 06:32
by elmersalsa
handsofstone wrote:Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell
Then Gerry Cooney should have been DQ'd also when he hit the great Larry Holmes balls.
The great Pernell Whitaker should have been DQ'd when he hit the great Julio Cesar Chavez in the groin also.
How about Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Fernando Vargas. There were lots of low blows in that fight.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 15:17
by handsofstone
elmersalsa wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell
Then Gerry Cooney should have been DQ'd also when he hit the great Larry Holmes balls.
The great Pernell Whitaker should have been DQ'd when he hit the great Julio Cesar Chavez in the groin also.
How about Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Fernando Vargas. There were lots of low blows in that fight.
Cant remember any of those fights being stopped due to the low blows, your points are irrelevant

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 16:37
by Jaywheel
^^well that's a first.

Would have been hard to go back only two weeks ago to find an instance where the same thing pretty much happened.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:31
by Flump
My take on it was that Buchanan, whilst definitely being hit low, made a meal of it or was advised to by his corner. And this ate away at Buchanan for decades, he was very bitter about the fight, the account of which in his autobiography was fanciful. I just think he had trouble forgiving himself for not continuing the fight.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 17:46
by Seamus

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 20:39
by Kalan
Most people don't know Duran started fighting as a Bantamweight and also fought as a Light Heavyweight... That's a HELL of a lot of weight classes.. At the time he made sure to weigh in at 176 which he thought technically made him a Heavyweight.. He was told he was really a Cruiserweight if anything -- because of the new weight class.. He said "Nah, I'm a Heavyweight."

The legend of Roberto Duran really began as a teenager -- when he knocked out Ernesto Marcel in Panama City more than 2 years before he fought Ken Buchanan.. Everybody who saw that knew he was a special kid who couldn't miss -- because he could box and punch well beyond his experience.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 21:05
by elmersalsa
handsofstone wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell
Then Gerry Cooney should have been DQ'd also when he hit the great Larry Holmes balls.
The great Pernell Whitaker should have been DQ'd when he hit the great Julio Cesar Chavez in the groin also.
How about Felix "Tito" Trinidad vs Fernando Vargas. There were lots of low blows in that fight.
Cant remember any of those fights being stopped due to the low blows, your points are irrelevant
It was a low blow just like the fights I just mentioned. Why they didn't get DQ'd?

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 21:34
by Seamus
Duran's TKO of Ernesto Marcel was a bad stoppage.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 28 Jun 2017, 00:42
by Kalan
Marcel wasn't punching back and hadn't for quite a while -- and was taking a beating... It was getting ridiculous.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 02:49
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
handsofstone wrote:Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell
- Nice moniker, but it don't fit you.

Buch a great career, but on the night whooped badly, turning him into feets of clay like you. They in furious exchange 3-4 sec after the bell with the ref just as sorry as modern refs does nothing to break them, so Duran broke it up with the last foul. Ref gave him his rest break +, and all he did was cry about a kid fouling him.

Today such might go to the cards that Duran had a big lead for a TD. How many decades of hindsight 20-20 endless video and you still with Mr Magoo legally blind vision? Time to give it up. Maybe blame Duran for no rematch, but maybe he didn't want to see a grown man cry. Bit embarrasing for boxing that .

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 03:46
by handsofstone
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
handsofstone wrote:Duran was excellent that night but that was a clear DQ whatever the cards say, not too mention after the bell
- Nice moniker, but it don't fit you.

Buch a great career, but on the night whooped badly, turning him into feets of clay like you. They in furious exchange 3-4 sec after the bell with the ref just as sorry as modern refs does nothing to break them, so Duran broke it up with the last foul. Ref gave him his rest break +, and all he did was cry about a kid fouling him.

Today such might go to the cards that Duran had a big lead for a TD. How many decades of hindsight 20-20 endless video and you still with Mr Magoo legally blind vision? Time to give it up. Maybe blame Duran for no rematch, but maybe he didn't want to see a grown man cry. Bit embarrasing for boxing that .
:lol: Fuckin nonsense pal, I'm not doubting for one minute Duran was excellent that night and well on his way to winning but the responsibility relies on the fighters to stop punching at the bell, sure the ref was slow in getting in but you cant win a fight with an illegal blow, I'm sure you must think Rigondeaux deserves his KO win over Flores going by your shitty logic, by most accounts barring Team Duran, Buchanan's balls were in a really bad way and he was pissing blood for weeks after, most stories ive read were in agreement and there was nothing to suggest Buchanan was faking

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 01 Jul 2017, 12:04
by elmersalsa
I remember back in the day that at one time, Ken Buchanan was like kind of forgotten. Especially in the 80s decade. I always wanted to know back then about his life after the Roberto Duran fight. He was always been intriguing to me. I don't know why. Something about him make me want to really meet him. He is one of my favorite of Duran's rivals.

Until the 2000s decade and into his induction to the hall of fame, is where I got to know a little bit more about his life. But before the year 2000, he was like a ghost of the past. Nobody made a report about him. Sometimes we got to give today's technology credit, like the Internet. It has changed a lot of lives.

Re: Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan: The Birth of a Legend...45 Years Later.

Posted: 06 Jul 2017, 00:55
by Kalan
KB was like the poor man's Johnny Famechon...