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Brian Mitchell
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 13:45
by nobleart1978
How would the WBA Super Featherweight champ from 1986 - 91 faired if he had fought:
Julio Cesar Chavez and Azumah Nelson in unification fights at 130lbs.
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 14:54
by littlepug
Hard to say, he was a good allrounder but did nothing spectacularly, a bit of a poor mans McCallum type, I would think he loses to both but its not a formality
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 15:08
by paddy chavez
littlepug wrote:Hard to say, he was a good allrounder but did nothing spectacularly, a bit of a poor mans McCallum type, I would think he loses to both but its not a formality
Yeah I agree Mitchell had so many defences largely because he was south African and there was a boycott against south African sports men having said that he was a good solid champion just not on Chavez's level
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 29 Jun 2017, 16:42
by Counter-puncher
Anything less than Good Zumah (not lazy disinterested Zumah) would get outpointed by Mitchell IMO.
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 02 Jul 2017, 07:36
by Autobarn
Superb technician, with remarkable fitness; do not count him out against anyone.
Chavez always seemed weight drained at 130 and not firing on all cylinders, pretty sparing in his output and eager pace himself (see the outstanding and fiercely competed bots with Lockridge and Laporte)
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 02 Jul 2017, 15:45
by Bodyshot3
Intriguing fights for Brian.....he was a very hard, skilled fighter who deserves a great deal of kudos for winning so often on the road.
He actually beat Lopez twice (despite the dodgy draw) right in Tony's backyard and that took some doing.
Need to revisit the fights, but I actually thought he did a slightly better job dealing with Jim McDonnell (who was very handy) than Nelson.
Azumah stopped Jim and had him down as well, but Mitchell arguably took less shots and controlled his fight better.
What might count against Brian when faced by Chavez and Nelson is that at the highest level he did not have spiteful, one punch power. He ground blokes down, round by round and maybe Nelson and Chavez would chance their arm and not feel too bothered about getting tagged and hurt?
But then again Mitchell had 49 pro fights and was never stopped, so could they have bombed him out?
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 02 Jul 2017, 17:17
by Counter-puncher
No way Mitchell gets stopped. No way. Way too clever, way too good a mover if he chose to, way too tough.
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 02 Jul 2017, 20:12
by Bricks
Bodyshot3 wrote:Intriguing fights for Brian.....he was a very hard, skilled fighter who deserves a great deal of kudos for winning so often on the road.
He actually beat Lopez twice (despite the dodgy draw) right in Tony's backyard and that took some doing.
Need to revisit the fights, but I actually thought he did a slightly better job dealing with Jim McDonnell (who was very handy) than Nelson.
Azumah stopped Jim and had him down as well, but Mitchell arguably took less shots and controlled his fight better.
What might count against Brian when faced by Chavez and Nelson is that at the highest level he did not have spiteful, one punch power. He ground blokes down, round by round and maybe Nelson and Chavez would chance their arm and not feel too bothered about getting tagged and hurt?
But then again Mitchell had 49 pro fights and was never stopped, so could they have bombed him out?
Superb post
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 03 Jul 2017, 06:50
by Tomasino
Bodyshot3 wrote:Intriguing fights for Brian.....he was a very hard, skilled fighter who deserves a great deal of kudos for winning so often on the road.
He actually beat Lopez twice (despite the dodgy draw) right in Tony's backyard and that took some doing.
Need to revisit the fights, but I actually thought he did a slightly better job dealing with Jim McDonnell (who was very handy) than Nelson.
Azumah stopped Jim and had him down as well, but Mitchell arguably took less shots and controlled his fight better.
What might count against Brian when faced by Chavez and Nelson is that at the highest level he did not have spiteful, one punch power. He ground blokes down, round by round and maybe Nelson and Chavez would chance their arm and not feel too bothered about getting tagged and hurt?
But then again Mitchell had 49 pro fights and was never stopped, so could they have bombed him out?
This says it better than I could. Mitchell's one of my favourites.
Re: Brian Mitchell
Posted: 03 Jul 2017, 14:08
by Nile4000
Autobarn wrote:Superb technician, with remarkable fitness; do not count him out against anyone.
Chavez always seemed weight drained at 130 and not firing on all cylinders, pretty sparing in his output and eager pace himself (see the outstanding and fiercely competed bots with Lockridge and Laporte)
Camacho, Roger Mayweather, and Arguello handles him.