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Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 08:54
by Enlightened-One
"Dave on Dave II: Haye closing in on TV channel return | World Boxing News"

The former two-weight world champion fought two bouts on the station in 2016, defeating Mark De Mori in January after coming back from over four years out and then following it up with a victory over Arnold Gjergjaj four months later.

WBN has now learned Haye is on the verge of revealing details of a multi-fight deal with the channel, where the Brit recently featured as a pundit for an MMA event.

A rematch with Tony Bellew looks likely to be off the menu, for now, as Haye aims to rebuild his reputation ahead of a potential final world titlle fling.

The likes of Joseph Parker, Deontay Wilder and ultimately Anthony Joshua are on Haye's wishlist, although the Bellew loss did nothing to help the Londoner's immediate cause.

An achilles injury, which was initially revealed days before the Bellew fight, has gone some way to cast doubt on whether the 'Hayemaker' would have gone down to the Liverpudlian if fully fit and two or three victories over the next twelve months would push even further towards erasing the damage done to Haye's reputation.

Previously, the De Mori and Gjergjaj wins saw Haye receive some criticism for his choice of opponent, which may have to be rectified if the 35 year-old still harbours hopes of selling out The O2 on a regular basis.

Stepping up his oppositiion, potentially against the likes of Amir Mansour, Dominic Breazeale or Andy Ruiz, would do much to elevate Haye to a possible WBO title shot and a match-up against the winner of Joseph Parker v Hughie Fury in the spring or summer of 2018.

More is set to be revealed at an upcoming press conference.


Thoughts? :confused:

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:07
by Syntax Error
One loves a trier & fair play to him if he is now actually serious about the fight game, but it all seems a bit desperate & too late for him.

At least he can't try & con the public with fights against waxwork dummies, car crash dummies, steroid freaks & fat cruiserweights anymore.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:13
by Cyclops
Glad Bellew rematch is off the table. Haye has nothing to say anymore. He was literally posting multiple videos on Instagram the other day about how he's made the mistake of wearing long trousers instead of shorts because it was a hot day, and his balls were sweaty.

Deleted him.

He's an empty vessel.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:40
by CHRIS TARRANT
If he's serious about getting himself back in contention I'd rather him fight some decent heavyweight on free TV than another novelty PPV.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:42
by Crease
CHRIS TARRANT wrote:If he's serious about getting himself back in contention I'd rather him fight some decent heavyweight on free TV than another novelty PPV.
It's a step in the wrong direction for Haye. If and when he does come back, he NEEDs to get a W over Tony Bellew. It's the only way that he'll gain any credibility.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 10:17
by Syntax Error
Crease wrote:
CHRIS TARRANT wrote:If he's serious about getting himself back in contention I'd rather him fight some decent heavyweight on free TV than another novelty PPV.
It's a step in the wrong direction for Haye. If and when he does come back, he NEEDs to get a W over Tony Bellew. It's the only way that he'll gain any credibility.
I don't think folk care that much anymore.

A good win over a top HW would trump a win over CW trinket holder any day.

Haye is a busted flush & he knows it.

He should never have wasted his time fighting Bellew whilst trying to pretend he is serious about being HW champion again.

If he just wants money, then he should say so, but he should stop pretending he is serious about boxing, because from my eyes, he is anything but.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 11:23
by Ossyrules
The Bellew fight should be the only fight for Haye right now

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 11:39
by Enlightened-One
Ossyrules wrote:The Bellew fight should be the only fight for Haye right now
You're right, but Eddie Hearn and Tony Bellew seem to prefer other options, such as the Andre Ward fight.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 11:42
by tiny_acres
Haye has some unexplained popularity.
He can fight anyone and people pay attention. He reminds me of Khan. A good fighter but will never be the great boxer everyone thought he could be.
Haye will beat a fringe contender next and then secure a title shot. He will lose again. And his fans will still support him.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 14:10
by Ossyrules
Enlightened-One wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:The Bellew fight should be the only fight for Haye right now
You're right, but Eddie Hearn and Tony Bellew seem to prefer other options, such as the Andre Ward fight.
I'm not sure if it's all a bit of mind games giving each other the impression there's options elsewhere.

Either way, haye needs to fight Bellew again. Bellew if he has any integrity following that fight should agree to it

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 15:54
by asdfjkl
clopixolacuphase wrote:Glad Bellew rematch is off the table. Haye has nothing to say anymore. He was literally posting multiple videos on Instagram the other day about how he's made the mistake of wearing long trousers instead of shorts because it was a hot day, and his balls were sweaty.

Deleted him.

He's an empty vessel.
:roll:

I've never really taken Daffy Duck serious, especially after he even ducked Briggs, finally a reasonable opponent and what does he do? Fight a cruiserweight instead and still loses.

The fight doesn't happen because Daffy Duck asked ridiculous things on Bellew and Bellew accepted anyway because the only thing Bellew wanted was a win against Daffy Duck. Right now Bellew simply asks for exactly the same things Daffy Duck requested him and ofcourse Daffy Duck is a way to big coward to accept the things he's always asking his opponents to accept, since he's the Deontay Wilder from the UK, a silly coward.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 10 Jul 2017, 16:05
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:Glad Bellew rematch is off the table. Haye has nothing to say anymore. He was literally posting multiple videos on Instagram the other day about how he's made the mistake of wearing long trousers instead of shorts because it was a hot day, and his balls were sweaty.

Deleted him.

He's an empty vessel.
:roll:

I've never really taken Daffy Duck serious, especially after he even ducked Briggs, finally a reasonable opponent and what does he do? Fight a cruiserweight instead and still loses.

The fight doesn't happen because Daffy Duck asked ridiculous things on Bellew and Bellew accepted anyway because the only thing Bellew wanted was a win against Daffy Duck. Right now Bellew simply asks for exactly the same things Daffy Duck requested him and ofcourse Daffy Duck is a way to big coward to accept the things he's always asking his opponents to accept, since he's the Deontay Wilder from the UK, a silly coward.
You should refrain from commenting on haye threads, you don't know your stuff

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 14:29
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:Glad Bellew rematch is off the table. Haye has nothing to say anymore. He was literally posting multiple videos on Instagram the other day about how he's made the mistake of wearing long trousers instead of shorts because it was a hot day, and his balls were sweaty.

Deleted him.

He's an empty vessel.
:roll:

I've never really taken Daffy Duck serious, especially after he even ducked Briggs, finally a reasonable opponent and what does he do? Fight a cruiserweight instead and still loses.

The fight doesn't happen because Daffy Duck asked ridiculous things on Bellew and Bellew accepted anyway because the only thing Bellew wanted was a win against Daffy Duck. Right now Bellew simply asks for exactly the same things Daffy Duck requested him and ofcourse Daffy Duck is a way to big coward to accept the things he's always asking his opponents to accept, since he's the Deontay Wilder from the UK, a silly coward.
You should refrain from commenting on haye threads, you don't know your stuff
Proof me wrong...

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 15:22
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: :roll:

I've never really taken Daffy Duck serious, especially after he even ducked Briggs, finally a reasonable opponent and what does he do? Fight a cruiserweight instead and still loses.

The fight doesn't happen because Daffy Duck asked ridiculous things on Bellew and Bellew accepted anyway because the only thing Bellew wanted was a win against Daffy Duck. Right now Bellew simply asks for exactly the same things Daffy Duck requested him and ofcourse Daffy Duck is a way to big coward to accept the things he's always asking his opponents to accept, since he's the Deontay Wilder from the UK, a silly coward.
You should refrain from commenting on haye threads, you don't know your stuff
Proof me wrong...
He's not a coward. I don't think that needs proving

Top tip, calling a fighter derogatory names like daddy duck makes any arguement you try to make pretty much redundant, as your post will reek bias

Puts you in the tanzio and caldo catergory

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 15:47
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
You should refrain from commenting on haye threads, you don't know your stuff
Proof me wrong...
He's not a coward. I don't think that needs proving

Top tip, calling a fighter derogatory names like daddy duck makes any arguement you try to make pretty much redundant, as your post will reek bias

Puts you in the tanzio and caldo catergory
Daffy duck is a coward, he even ducks his own rules which he demands his opponents to accept.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 15:56
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Proof me wrong...
He's not a coward. I don't think that needs proving

Top tip, calling a fighter derogatory names like daddy duck makes any arguement you try to make pretty much redundant, as your post will reek bias

Puts you in the tanzio and caldo catergory
Daffy duck is a coward, he even ducks his own rules which he demands his opponents to accept.

He's clearly not a coward. You've made your bias stance clear though. Convo over

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:17
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
He's not a coward. I don't think that needs proving

Top tip, calling a fighter derogatory names like daddy duck makes any arguement you try to make pretty much redundant, as your post will reek bias

Puts you in the tanzio and caldo catergory
Daffy duck is a coward, he even ducks his own rules which he demands his opponents to accept.
He's clearly not a coward. You've made your bias stance clear though. Convo over
Tell me one thing, just one thing, that's all I'm asking for... That shows he ain't a coward?

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:27
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Daffy duck is a coward, he even ducks his own rules which he demands his opponents to accept.
He's clearly not a coward. You've made your bias stance clear though. Convo over
Tell me one thing, just one thing, that's all I'm asking for... That shows he ain't a coward?
Fought the number 1 cruiser away in his home town

Defended against one of more dangerous cruisers following this

Fought a good heavyweight puncher on his debut up in weight

Sought the fight against the dominant champ at heavy

Attempted to get the fight against one of the most feared heavyweights in recent years

I've gone against my convo over post before. But this is convo over now. You're too biased against haye to discuss further

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:29
by asdfjkl
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote: He's clearly not a coward. You've made your bias stance clear though. Convo over
Tell me one thing, just one thing, that's all I'm asking for... That shows he ain't a coward?
Fought the number 1 cruiser away in his home town

Defended against one of more dangerous cruisers following this

Fought a good heavyweight puncher on his debut up in weight

Sought the fight against the dominant champ at heavy

Attempted to get the fight against one of the most feared heavyweights in recent years

I've gone against my convo over post before. But this is convo over now. You're too biased against haye to discuss further
Oh, I'd have to admit, he did a good job as a cruiserweight, no doubt about that, I'll fully admit, but after that...
Sorry, but except for the dump things Bellew did pretty much the same.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 04:52
by asdfjkl
David Haye made a very very very very smart move by signing up Joe Joyce btw, a guy who can probably become a top 10 heavyweight within 3 years.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 06:03
by Ossyrules
asdfjkl wrote:David Haye made a very very very very smart move by signing up Joe Joyce btw, a guy who can probably become a top 10 heavyweight within 3 years.
Yeah I like Joyce. Only hope age doesn't go against him. He may have to fast tracked a bit but he looks good for European standard if he gets there in time. If he hits the European title, traditionallyyou are thereabouts for a world title shot

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 05:50
by BitPlayer
Crease wrote:
CHRIS TARRANT wrote:If he's serious about getting himself back in contention I'd rather him fight some decent heavyweight on free TV than another novelty PPV.
It's a step in the wrong direction for Haye. If and when he does come back, he NEEDs to get a W over Tony Bellew. It's the only way that he'll gain any credibility.
That's not going to give him credibility. He'd need a credible win for that. Not a nonelite, nonheavyweight

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 05:57
by caldo2025
I know it's not a popular opinion but I love this guy Haye and I think that he's great for boxing. I'd love to see him secure a fight with Wilder and grab the strap off of him. I think that he and AJ could be a monster fight that would sell out anywhere you want to go in England. Damn, British boxing is awesome. I can't believe i just said that but it's true. Attending a big bout in England is on the bucket list for sure.

Re: Haye vs. Bellew Rematch a No-go?

Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 06:01
by danconnollyeire
asdfjkl wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: :roll:

I've never really taken Daffy Duck serious, especially after he even ducked Briggs, finally a reasonable opponent and what does he do? Fight a cruiserweight instead and still loses.

The fight doesn't happen because Daffy Duck asked ridiculous things on Bellew and Bellew accepted anyway because the only thing Bellew wanted was a win against Daffy Duck. Right now Bellew simply asks for exactly the same things Daffy Duck requested him and ofcourse Daffy Duck is a way to big coward to accept the things he's always asking his opponents to accept, since he's the Deontay Wilder from the UK, a silly coward.
You should refrain from commenting on haye threads, you don't know your stuff
Proof me wrong...
Prove*

I said 'proof me wrong' in my head... made me chuckle