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Sergio Martinez

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 21:54
by Taansend
One of my favourite fighters. Amazing boxer with a decent punch. His loss against Williams was very very debatable (I had Martinez winning).

I first became aware of him during his stretch in Spain when he won in the UK three times in the space of 10 months.

I was also impressed by the fact that he was a cyclist.

Anyone know where he lives now? Is he in Spain or Argentina?

And what are your memories/views of him?

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 22:03
by crusader
Very good fighter with an unorthodox style and a nice mix of speed and power. I also thought he deserved the first Williams fight, as I liked his work a lot more than Williams's pitter-patter punching. Incidentally, Williams won three fights that I had going the other way, and two of those featured shockingly bad cards.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 02:51
by tobyh5
Quick bit of surface googling I think has the answers.

This article http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/ ... e-problems although not saying he lives in Spain talks about how he loves to train and promote young fighters. The article then talks about one of his fighters - http://boxrec.com/boxer/715214 who is a Spaniard living and training still in Spain.

That then led to http://boxrec.com/person/14429?role=promoter who he promotes (all but one are Spanish) and then where he promotes (90% of the shows are in Spain) and says his residence is Madrid

KO of Williams was chilling and I wish I could have foresaw how special he would become so I would have made an effort to fight him when he came to the UK

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 03:07
by Ruthless-RKO
Maravillabox Promotions

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 03:44
by samwbr
He had a great chemist

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 09:42
by rubberneck
The first time I saw Martinez was when he boxed an unknown antonio margarito in 2000. He was roughed up and stopped in 7 rounds. Didn't think he'd go on to have so much success, and would just fade in to obscurity. How wrong I was.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 10:59
by bripez
There is a very good ducumentary on Netflix called Maravilla or something similar.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 11:11
by Taansend
bripez wrote:There is a very good ducumentary on Netflix called Maravilla or something similar.
It was me rewatching it last night that prompted this post :D

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 11:12
by Taansend
samwbr wrote:He had a great chemist
Who was it?

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:14
by samwbr
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote:He had a great chemist
Who was it?
probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 13:31
by gilgamesh
I liked Sergio. Very entertaining fighter.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 14:38
by Tomasino
tobyh5 wrote:Quick bit of surface googling I think has the answers.

This article http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/ ... e-problems although not saying he lives in Spain talks about how he loves to train and promote young fighters. The article then talks about one of his fighters - http://boxrec.com/boxer/715214 who is a Spaniard living and training still in Spain.

That then led to http://boxrec.com/person/14429?role=promoter who he promotes (all but one are Spanish) and then where he promotes (90% of the shows are in Spain) and says his residence is Madrid

KO of Williams was chilling and I wish I could have foresaw how special he would become so I would have made an effort to fight him when he came to the UK
Would you have fancied your chances against him Toby?

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 15:27
by Counter-puncher
Tomasino wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:Quick bit of surface googling I think has the answers.

This article http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/ ... e-problems although not saying he lives in Spain talks about how he loves to train and promote young fighters. The article then talks about one of his fighters - http://boxrec.com/boxer/715214 who is a Spaniard living and training still in Spain.

That then led to http://boxrec.com/person/14429?role=promoter who he promotes (all but one are Spanish) and then where he promotes (90% of the shows are in Spain) and says his residence is Madrid

KO of Williams was chilling and I wish I could have foresaw how special he would become so I would have made an effort to fight him when he came to the UK
Would you have fancied your chances against him Toby?
Toby ko1 (Most Muscular Pose) :TU:

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 15:44
by Ossyrules
Good fighter that I followed after his run in England beating a series of prospects.

Would maybe put his pavlik win as his best

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 15:46
by tobyh5
Counter-puncher wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
tobyh5 wrote:Quick bit of surface googling I think has the answers.

This article http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/ ... e-problems although not saying he lives in Spain talks about how he loves to train and promote young fighters. The article then talks about one of his fighters - http://boxrec.com/boxer/715214 who is a Spaniard living and training still in Spain.

That then led to http://boxrec.com/person/14429?role=promoter who he promotes (all but one are Spanish) and then where he promotes (90% of the shows are in Spain) and says his residence is Madrid

KO of Williams was chilling and I wish I could have foresaw how special he would become so I would have made an effort to fight him when he came to the UK
Would you have fancied your chances against him Toby?
Toby ko1 (Most Muscular Pose) :TU:

Hahaha oops. I'd take that dodgy knee'd fukker

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 20:17
by Taansend
samwbr wrote:
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote:He had a great chemist
Who was it?
probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use
So every Spanish cyclist, tennis player, footballer & boxer uses the same chemist?

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 21:31
by Wales
Ossyrules wrote:Good fighter that I followed after his run in England beating a series of prospects.

Would maybe put his pavlik win as his best
Beat Richard Williams , then Adrian Stone then Williams again in space of 9 or so months in UK

His first win against Williams was a bit of a shock if memory serves

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 01:31
by samwbr
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Who was it?
probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use
So every Spanish cyclist, tennis player, footballer & boxer uses the same chemist?
Are you aware of Dr Fuentes and Operacion Puerto?

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 05:52
by stujones
Really good eye catching fighter to watch. His run as Middleweight champion might be slightly overated, but he definately fought and beat most of the best around at that time. A shame though that there wasn't that many greats at Middleweight, I would have liked to have seen how he would have faired against the cream of the 154 pounders at the height of his powers at Middleweight.

My hunch is maybe Cotto would have always been too slick.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 06:10
by Ossyrules
Wales wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Good fighter that I followed after his run in England beating a series of prospects.

Would maybe put his pavlik win as his best
Beat Richard Williams , then Adrian Stone then Williams again in space of 9 or so months in UK

His first win against Williams was a bit of a shock if memory serves
That's my recollection also

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 06:13
by Counter-puncher
samwbr wrote:
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote: probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use
So every Spanish cyclist, tennis player, footballer & boxer uses the same chemist?
Are you aware of Dr Fuentes and Operacion Puerto?
I'm sure its just a coincidence that a lot of Spanish-based sportspeople seemed to suddenly show well-above-average stamina, even when compared to other world class sportsmen, at around the same time.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 06:35
by Tanzio
SMartinez was one of my favorites during his run. I question his loss to Cheato. I thought he won the first Williams fight, and he deserved the W v Cintron. The Cotto fight was a pure cashout.

He was a fan friendly fighter, a gentleman, and he gives back to his community. He is deserving of the HOF.

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 07:08
by Taansend
samwbr wrote:
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote: probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use
So every Spanish cyclist, tennis player, footballer & boxer uses the same chemist?
Are you aware of Dr Fuentes and Operacion Puerto?
I'm very ignorant when it comes to drug cheats

Re: Sergio Martinez

Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 07:26
by PredatorHayds
Taansend wrote:
samwbr wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Who was it?
probably the same fella the the Spanish cyclists, tennis players and footballers use
So every Spanish cyclist, tennis player, footballer & boxer uses the same chemist?
Boots?