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Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Chris Eubank Sr says it is not in the "warrior's code" for a boxer to stop a fight and only a referee should bring about the end of a bout.
His son, Chris Eubank Jr, defends his IBO super middleweight world title against Arthur Abraham at Wembley Arena on Saturday.
"Can you take a beating? When you have, bow and accept it like a gentleman," Eubank Sr, 50, told BBC Radio 5 live.
"That is the cut of the man you want your own son to be."
Eubank Jr recently criticised ex-IBF welterweight champion Kell Brook after the Sheffield fighter took a knee to end his fight with American Errol Spence in the 11th round.
Brook said he feared a "fatal" blow after suffering his second broke eye socket in consecutive fights.
Eubank Sr's 1991 rematch win over Michael Watson saw the beaten fighter spend eight months unable to hear, speak, or walk. Watson - close to death - underwent six brain operations in 40 days, yet that fight is still championed to this day.
When his son fought for the British title in 2016, the defending champion Nick Blackwell held on until the 10th round. But the Trowbridge fighter suffered bleeding on the skull and spent the next week in an induced coma and was forced to retire from the sport, aged 25.
Speaking about Brook losing his title by stopping his fight, Eubank Sr said "do not at any point think that a black eye is a reason to quit".
He told BBC Sport's boxing correspondent Mike Costello: "The reason Rocky resonated to the world is because going beyond the point of duty and taking punishment inspires people.
"It shows the nature of the human condition and shows how wonderful, brave and magnificent we are.
"We have nothing against Kell Brook but standards have to be kept. We are fierce in this regard, and why shouldn't we be? This is a privilege, signing things, pictures. You can't earn that by quitting. It isn't really about the belts, it's about the hearts of the people.
"We say if you held on longer you would have won something that money just cannot buy."
"What is feeling sorry for fighters because they are hurt? You're supposed to be hurt, you're supposed to be injured," said Eubank Sr. "I want Junior to experience the same magic I live with everyday.
"When a man goes down you don't have the right to quit. That's not in the rule book of the warrior's code. It's for the referee. You have to take a beating. That sounds odd because of what has happened to fighters who have fallen but it is still this code.
"We can't be normal. We are not allowed. I've been in fights where I wanted to wet myself the beating was so bad. But I had no choice because integrity doesn't allow.
"When Watson knocked me down in that second fight in the 11th round I didn't think about getting up, I had to get up. It's almost like subconsciously I knew that in three or four days I'd be washing myself in the mirror and I'd look myself in the eye and say 'you could have got up and you didn't'."
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:32
by sweetscience
i like his attitude towards winning
nothing worse than medals for coming last
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:42
by Finn
To be fair he's lived by that code so I have no issue with him having that opinion.
You should only quit if you are genuinely worried for your health or if you've got to the end of your career and think you had enough and intend on retiring once you've bowed out in the ring.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:50
by ILikeBeer
Finn wrote:To be fair he's lived by that code so I have no issue with him having that opinion.
You should only quit if you are genuinely worried for your health or if you've got to the end of your career and think you had enough and intend on retiring once you've bowed out in the ring.
Surely, Brook was genuinely worried about his health?
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:57
by ILikeBeer
More waffle from Eubank.
Being that Jr. quit the GGG fight at the contract signing stage, they can't really say anything about what Brook did against him.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:58
by Noxy
To be fair to him, you need to think like that if you want to succeed in boxing. At the same time, it doesn't mean a fighter is bad because they quit. 'No mas' being one example. Duran was no bottle job, he just quit once (for whatever reason).
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 07:59
by Ossyrules
It's a strong mentality to have in a way. As if it comes down to it in a real war, the guy who can't contemplate quitting, won't quit before a guy whose worried about injury.
However in the real world, quitting to protect a significant, possibly life changing injury etc is completely acceptable.
I'm surprised that eubank pushes this ethos out when an opponent of his son had a career ending injury, certainly life changing. It hasn't done Blackwell much good he wouldn't quit despite enduring punishment. He's now denied possible future bigger pay days than he ever had, or the glory of fighting on bigger cards, venues, opponents etc
It's all speculation but quits like Ohara Davies, on face value appeared weak. You can't be like that in boxing. Kell brook situation appeared much more significant to his future.
This isn't about supporting an "everyone gets a medal" situation. Do everything you can to win for sure, but for me... at all costs? These guys shouldnt have to risk brain injury, or blindness to get a win etc
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 08:10
by REEVE
Just my personal opinion but if I'm not unconscious or snapped in half on the floor from a body shot there is no way I'd quit ever
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 08:20
by littlepug
Spot on fron eubank, too many wet lettuces trying to make boxing "civillised" for my liking
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 08:44
by Boxerbeetle
Shame Eubank Sr couldn't show enough bravery to face the top US fighters of the day.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 08:49
by Ossyrules
Boxerbeetle wrote:Shame Eubank Sr couldn't show enough bravery to face the top US fighters of the day.
Or junior for ggg
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 10:00
by Nightmare Roy
Noxy wrote:To be fair to him, you need to think like that if you want to succeed in boxing. At the same time, it doesn't mean a fighter is bad because they quit. 'No mas' being one example. Duran was no bottle job, he just quit once (for whatever reason).
I think Duran quit because Sugar Ray wouldn't stand and fight and was acting like a clown and he just thought fcuk this.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 10:16
by PredatorHayds
Agree with Senior here. And to be fair he took a beating late on in his career and didn't look for a way out.
Hopefully Senior can find a quiet place in the youth hostel he's staying in and write the rules of the warriors code.
All jokes aside I'd love to read his viewpoint on the sweet science.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 14:14
by ILikeBeer
Surely you people aren't taking this shit seriously?
Eubank encouraged his son to quit the fight during the contract signing process. Then got brave on Twitter when Kell Brook had a potentially career threatening injury.
It's all well and good criticising a fighter's courage, but when you ducked the fighter he just lost to?

Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 14:26
by crusader
'Never' is too strong for me
There are often fights in which it is very apparent that one competitor is taking a beating and lacks the tools to realistically turn it around. In these types of bouts the chances that the punishment will have an adverse, long term impact often seem greater than the chances of a hail Mary KO or some freak ending in their favour, so I wouldn't say that continuing to fight is a better choice than quitting.
So you ended up getting KTFO, but people can't say you quit; congrats!
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 14:33
by Finn
ILikeBeer wrote:Finn wrote:To be fair he's lived by that code so I have no issue with him having that opinion.
You should only quit if you are genuinely worried for your health or if you've got to the end of your career and think you had enough and intend on retiring once you've bowed out in the ring.
Surely, Brook was genuinely worried about his health?
If he was then fair enough but to me it looked like he quit because he was being beat. He wouldn't have pulled out if was winning.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 19:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Finn wrote:ILikeBeer wrote:Finn wrote:To be fair he's lived by that code so I have no issue with him having that opinion.
You should only quit if you are genuinely worried for your health or if you've got to the end of your career and think you had enough and intend on retiring once you've bowed out in the ring.
Surely, Brook was genuinely worried about his health?
If he was then fair enough but to me it looked like he quit because he was being beat. He wouldn't have pulled out if was winning.
You make a good point, the last 3 rounds he lost before the stoppage, then he a 10-8 round.. He knew if he didn't stop at that point, Spence would have stopped it.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 12 Jul 2017, 19:47
by gilgamesh
If you have a corner that you trust truly cares about you and won't let you get hurt then yeah you probably shouldn't quit, but sometimes that's not the case. They'll keep sending you out for another round and unless you take it upon yourself to stop you're gonna get f*cking hurt in there. Warrior's Code or not, this sh*t ain't worth risking your long term health. I'd much rather see a guy quit early than be injured so seriously he never recovers.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 02:49
by MightyWarrior
Tell that to Michael Watson and Gerald McClellan, idiot.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 03:36
by littlepug
some people are missing the point, its not the fans that sets the standard for bravery/heart, the bar is already set high by the fighters themselves, they have shown us countless times how far they are prepared to go for victory, they have shown us whats possible and anything less will be criticised and that's just the way it is
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 03:44
by banjo
And risk ending up a vegetable who can't wipe their own arse? He spoke shite when he was fighting, still does now. Bare in mind this is a man who never stepped up against a top class fighter.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 03:54
by TheLeprechaun
If you know anything about Eubank Sr then you will know that he's the one person who you can't criticize for saying something like this. Nobody is afforded higher respect in boxing circles in terms of respect as a warrior than Eubank Sr. He earned that the hard way.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 04:48
by tobyh5
MightyWarrior wrote:Tell that to Michael Watson and Gerald McClellan, idiot.
This :
Although we love the guys who go above and beyond, there is a life outside of the ring. Tell some girl who has lost her daddy or has to wipe his arse and mop up his dribble all about this warrior code because I am sure living with the repercussions 24/7 is not fun and carries on long after the fans have moved on to the next event.
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 04:59
by Ossyrules
Nice to see some sense filtering into this thread
Re: Chris Eubank Sr says fighters should never quit a fight
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 05:22
by stujones
I would agree with Eubank personally, however I think in situations where the fight has become unwinnable, for whatever reason, then it is acceptable to quit.
For example, DLH vs Pacquiao - it was clear as early as the 2nd round that it wasn't in the tank for DLH and he took a sustained beating. I think that was not a disgrace that he quit. Whereas I felt Ohara had buzzed Taylor on occassion and was still in the fight.