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Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 11:41
by lefthook82
I have always questioned this notion. I watched plenty of fights hoping somebody gets battered/schooled but actually paying for the privilege of that. I can't think of any fight I have done that for. It's an often used phrased for some of boxing#s most controversial characters but I was just wondering how much truth there is it as far as Boxrec is concerned.
Have any of you bought PPV/event tickets just to see a particular fighter lose?
Come to think of it. I can't recall if Vitali v Williams was PPV but if it was I paid for that to see Williams get flattened as he was behaving a bit to disrespectfully towards Tyson after his tainted win. Bellew kinda reminded me of Williams and I'm duly hoping one of the heavyweights gives him something similar.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:14
by bigjack
I've been to a few Khan fights in the hope he got chinned,got my wish with Prescott.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:20
by gilgamesh
I've rooted for people to lose, but I've never bought a fight just to see somebody lose. Usually when I've bought fights it was because I either really wanted to see some Boxing or because I was a huge fan of the dude in the Main Events.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:23
by Ruthless-RKO
Only reason Mayweather is rich..
People have and will pay to see him lose.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:28
by boxingknockout
Ruthless-RKO wrote:Only reason Mayweather is rich..
People have and will pay to see him lose.
Don't agree - he's got a massive ghetto style following, there was a huge pimped up crowd at the Hatton fight when I saw it.
Also you get the glory hunters that love to follow a winner.
I once took out this girl who was half English, Half Italian.... i asked what team she supported in Football... she said 'Brazil'... 'Because they are the best'. I quickly lost respect for her
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:29
by greg
...never knowingly invested in the loser..
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:34
by smiling assassin
I Was thinking this about Ohara Davies. Most people I have spoke to about him all wanted to see him chinned but now that this has happened so early on in his career what way does he go now
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:38
by jaymitch81
went to Froch v Groves first fight to see Froch get flattened...did the same for the rematch as well.
The rest is history....
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:39
by jaymitch81
smiling assassin wrote:I Was thinking this about Ohara Davies. Most people I have spoke to about him all wanted to see him chinned but now that this has happened so early on in his career what way does he go now
The same way as before the Taylor fight. He came up against someone really really special. Won't affect him.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:48
by boxingknockout
Never bought a ticket but tune in to see fighter's I dislike get beat.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 12:54
by Oiky
jaymitch81 wrote:smiling assassin wrote:I Was thinking this about Ohara Davies. Most people I have spoke to about him all wanted to see him chinned but now that this has happened so early on in his career what way does he go now
The same way as before the Taylor fight. He came up against someone really really special. Won't affect him.
I agree, ODs career isn't over cos of that loss
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 13:11
by smiling assassin
Oiky wrote:jaymitch81 wrote:smiling assassin wrote:I Was thinking this about Ohara Davies. Most people I have spoke to about him all wanted to see him chinned but now that this has happened so early on in his career what way does he go now
The same way as before the Taylor fight. He came up against someone really really special. Won't affect him.
I agree, ODs career isn't over cos of that loss
Sorry boys I didn't make my point clear. Of course he can come back from the loss, I was referring to the point of how does he sell himself now as he was playing massively on making people not like him
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 13:38
by rd350lc
boxingknockout wrote:Never bought a ticket but tune in to see fighter's I dislike get beat.
^ This . Love it when gobby egotistical fighters get bought down a peg or two .
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 14:29
by Noxy
smiling assassin wrote:Oiky wrote:jaymitch81 wrote:
The same way as before the Taylor fight. He came up against someone really really special. Won't affect him.
I agree, ODs career isn't over cos of that loss
Sorry boys I didn't make my point clear. Of course he can come back from the loss, I was referring to the point of how does he sell himself now as he was playing massively on making people not like him
He can sell himself the same way. The Taylor loss doesn't change that.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:23
by world ranked
Most people have contribute to Floyd Mayweather being the biggest money maker in combat sport just based on there hate for him. He has got
over so much on the fan that gets fooled each time that someone will beat him.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:25
by crusader
What exactly is the evidence that 'haters' primarily fund Floyd? I'm sure some people buy the PPVs because they dislike him and thus want him to lose, but how are you concluding just how many people that is?
He also has loads of black fans, his name became very recognizable after beating Oscar, and things have gotten to the point where his fights become 'events' for people to take in.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:31
by world ranked
crusader wrote:What exactly is the evidence that 'haters' primarily fund Floyd? I'm sure some people buy the PPVs because they dislike him and thus want him to lose, but how are you concluding just how many people that is?
He also has loads of black fans, his name became very recognizable after beating Oscar, and things have gotten to the point where his fights become 'events' for people to take in.
Yes he does but its majority. He needs a demographic opposite of him to help him see Oscar, Hatton, Conor, Alvarez. Haters put money in his pocket more than his fans. This Conor fight proves that. If this is a forgone conclusion like most think, then the only reason to buy it for most is what people keep getting caught with the pants down thinking it will be exciting and it never is.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 16:33
by KiwiRider
I paid to see Floyd lose from Cotto onwards except the Berto fight because I hate wife beaters
And I paid for Bomber Haye because I just wanted David to shut him up...
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 16:48
by CaptainSpacerod
Schadenfreude rules my world. When I do buy PPV seven or eight times out of ten I buy the fight hoping to see some probably perfectly decent chap who I've taken an irrational dislike to beaten up. I know that the fighter who I've taken a dislike to wants me to buy the fight but the logical side of my brain which knows that the best way to express dislike of a fighter is to ignore him thus hurting him in the pocket is overruled by my desire to see primitive justice handed down.
The last fight I attended live was the BJS v Andy Lee fight which I found hard to enjoy as I thought both of them were thoroughly decent blokes but if memory serves Liam Smith was on the same bill and I'd happily pay money to watch any of the Smith bros lose although in fairness I find it hard to dislike any of them personally except for Paul.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 16:51
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote:Only reason Mayweather is rich..
People have and will pay to see him lose.
Not true, the casual fans like him and didn't mind his fights. Like being a Duke fan, riding the winner.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 16:52
by SaadOffTheDeck
crusader wrote:What exactly is the evidence that 'haters' primarily fund Floyd? I'm sure some people buy the PPVs because they dislike him and thus want him to lose, but how are you concluding just how many people that is?
He also has loads of black fans, his name became very recognizable after beating Oscar, and things have gotten to the point where his fights become 'events' for people to take in.
Even more than black fans, younger white hiphop kids adored him. the hate is from the hardcore fan base. Often times beyond irrational.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 17:05
by world ranked
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:crusader wrote:What exactly is the evidence that 'haters' primarily fund Floyd? I'm sure some people buy the PPVs because they dislike him and thus want him to lose, but how are you concluding just how many people that is?
He also has loads of black fans, his name became very recognizable after beating Oscar, and things have gotten to the point where his fights become 'events' for people to take in.
Even more than black fans, younger white hiphop kids adored him. the hate is from the hardcore fan base. Often times beyond irrational.
I think you guys are overrating how many like Floyd, some only defend because its so much hate towards him sometimes not even being a fan.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 17:13
by GooalaShooola
I've never done that before, but if Charlie Edwards v Prince Patel had ever been made I'd have been tempted!

Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 17:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
world ranked wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:crusader wrote:What exactly is the evidence that 'haters' primarily fund Floyd? I'm sure some people buy the PPVs because they dislike him and thus want him to lose, but how are you concluding just how many people that is?
He also has loads of black fans, his name became very recognizable after beating Oscar, and things have gotten to the point where his fights become 'events' for people to take in.
Even more than black fans, younger white hiphop kids adored him. the hate is from the hardcore fan base. Often times beyond irrational.
I think you guys are overrating how many like Floyd, some only defend because its so much hate towards him sometimes not even being a fan.
No, I've seen it myself. You're just having a hard time differentiating between Boxing fans and the people that buy Floyd's fights. I watched hundreds of casuals cheer wildly for him against Judah.
Re: Paying to see somebody lose
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 18:01
by world ranked
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:world ranked wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Even more than black fans, younger white hiphop kids adored him. the hate is from the hardcore fan base. Often times beyond irrational.
I think you guys are overrating how many like Floyd, some only defend because its so much hate towards him sometimes not even being a fan.
No, I've seen it myself. You're just having a hard time differentiating between Boxing fans and the people that buy Floyd's fights. I watched hundreds of casuals cheer wildly for him against Judah.
That's Judah and how long ago was that. Since then he hasn't been a fan favorite in any fight.