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Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 14:55
by Mimmy
Seems a decent opponent for Framptons comeback fight after his loss. Is this the sort of boxer you would expect Frampton to beat easily? Or is this a 50-50 fight?
(29th July Belfast)
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:02
by 3132DW
Solid enough opponent - only been outside Mexico twice.
Doesn't look to have massive punch power but solid enough chin.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:05
by 3132DW
The undercard won't be great - most of the monies are for the main event.
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Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:11
by Stuarty
Anyone heard what channel this is on over here?
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:12
by jameswilson
Stuarty30 wrote:Anyone heard what channel this is on over here?
Channel 5.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:32
by Stuarty
jameswilson wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Anyone heard what channel this is on over here?
Channel 5.
Was hoping that mate but hadn't seen anything. Great news

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:32
by Horse
Garbage.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:33
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Garbage.
Free to air boxing Horsey cheer up

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:33
by Horse
Stuarty30 wrote:Free to air boxing Horsey cheer up

Garbage.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 11:35
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Free to air boxing Horsey cheer up

Garbage.
It's not who I'd hoped he'd fight and the undercard is pretty poor. Hey ho it's still free. I thought McGuigan might try and whore it out to Premier Sports or something.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 12:36
by 3132DW
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Free to air boxing Horsey cheer up

Garbage.
It's not who I'd hoped he'd fight and the undercard is pretty poor. Hey ho it's still free. I thought McGuigan might try and whore it out to Premier Sports or something.
How much do you think a Channel 5 would put up for Frampton and Taylor/Davies ?
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 13:06
by Stuarty
3132DW wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Garbage.
It's not who I'd hoped he'd fight and the undercard is pretty poor. Hey ho it's still free. I thought McGuigan might try and whore it out to Premier Sports or something.
How much do you think a Channel 5 would put up for Frampton and Taylor/Davies ?
That's something I'm not very well versed on tbh mate. Not sure about purses and to deals etc... Frampton will be on a decent wedge I'd have thought though.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 24 Jul 2017, 04:11
by handsofstone
Ive never heard of Gutierrez before, looks a solid opponent on paper not the worst comeback opponent ive ever seen, his only loss was a close decision to Mijares which ive heard was debatable, he also has a draw with Jesus Ruiz who challenged Santa Cruz for the world SBW title a few years ago, Gutierrez looks to be a bit of a puncher on paper at least anyway
I'm sure his style will be a lot more straightforward for Frampton to deal with, Carl looked a bit bewildered by Santa Cruz's tactics in the rematch and looked out of sorts, Frampton should get back to winning ways no problem here, he'll have to be careful not to expect to just steamroll Gutierrez though, remember what happened when he tried to walk through Gonzlaez Jr, if Frampton uses his skils to break Gutierrez down then this should be a wide win on points
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 24 Jul 2017, 19:23
by Stuarty
Pity the undercard is absolute pish flaps!
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 05:24
by slapbangwhallop
Glad its on free to air TV but its the weakest headliner and undercard of any Frampton-lead Cyclone show.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 06:54
by ILikeBeer
slapbangwhallop wrote:Glad its on free to air TV but its the weakest headliner and undercard of any Frampton-lead Cyclone show.
Maybe that's why Channel 5 got it? Nobody else was putting up much money for it?
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 06:55
by ILikeBeer
ILikeBeer wrote:
Maybe that's why Channel 5 got it? Nobody else was putting up much money for it?
What's Channel 5's budget like, I wonder?
I'd prefer to see them do decent small hall shows, with solid 50/50 fights than cards with big-names fighters who aren't taking on huge names. (No disrespect to Andres Gutierrez.)
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 09:03
by ILikeBeer
According to The Sun website, there is a 30-minute preview show at 8pm on Channel 5.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4 ... undercard/
Despite the undercard starting at 7 on Spike.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 09:36
by Tangerine
Frampton missed weight
1lb over.Fight isnt an eliminator anymore...

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 09:48
by Counter-puncher
LancashireLoyal wrote:Frampton missed weight
1lb over.Fight isnt an eliminator anymore...


Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 09:59
by GlobalBox
Counter-puncher wrote:LancashireLoyal wrote:Frampton missed weight
1lb over.Fight isnt an eliminator anymore...


Guessing he won't be coming back to the scales if they have called it no eliminator bout then.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 12:18
by bigjack
LancashireLoyal wrote:Frampton missed weight
1lb over.Fight isnt an eliminator anymore...

It still is for the mexican,very unprofessional from Frampton.
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 12:41
by Twinkle Toes
Unprofessional or planned?
That's the question
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 17:01
by JamieM
Show cancelled due to an accident to Gutierrez?
Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 17:02
by manchester-mexican
Rumour has it the fights off ??