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Hearn gotta kidding us? What a joke. Whyte is trash anyway

I would have much rather seen him against Mansour as well, which would get Whyte a much higher rank if he wins as well.

Michael Grant? Like the really old Michael Grant?

Impractical Poster wrote:Michael Grant? Like the really old Michael Grant?

He'll be 45 when this fight takes place. Last won years ago against another faded former contender Frans Botha.

Lost his last few to Takam and Charr..

One fight since 2015..

This doesn't even fit the definition of a tune-up..

Who will show a better performance? Lennox Lewis or Dillian Whyte?

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:Michael Grant? Like the really old Michael Grant?

He'll be 45 when this fight takes place. Last won years ago against another faded former contender Frans Botha.

Lost his last few to Takam and Charr..

One fight since 2015..

This doesn't even fit the definition of a tune-up..

It's horrible alright. From big money offers with Wilder, to this???
How is Eddie planning to get Grant past rest home security.... He's too big to fit in a laundry cart

asdfjkl wrote:Who will show a better performance? Lennox Lewis or Dillian Whyte?

I'll be damned you do have a sense of humor

IronFrost wrote:Whyte is trash anyway

Wrong.

It's simply a stay busy fight for Whyte, because the promoter of the event wasn't willing to fund a big payday in order to facilitate the Brit facing a marquee heavyweight opponent.

Whyte is clearly chasing bouts against the likes of Bellew, Joshua and Wilder... and he already possesses the prerequisite rankings to make those bouts become a reality. So an easy interim bout is understandable, considering the financials.

That being said, based on what Eddie Hearn stated today, why is Wilder willing to consider facing Luis Ortiz for less than 50% the payday than he was offered to face Whyte.

If this is correct, then why would Deontay flatly-refuse to fight Whyte when he was being paid more than double the sum he'll likely receive to fight Luis Ortiz instead?

Wilder would have fought Whyte if Hearn didn't ask for promotional control of Wilder from here on out. The point is so contentious that Hearn wondered if Lou Dibella might physically confront him.

I told y'all, he's 6 deep on an undercard in Nebraska. This was better than expected.

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Who will show a better performance? Lennox Lewis or Dillian Whyte?

I'll be damned you do have a sense of humor

He just copied my post from the British site

Enlightened-One wrote:It's simply a stay busy fight for Whyte, because the promoter of the event wasn't willing to fund a big payday in order to facilitate the Brit facing a marquee heavyweight opponent.

Whyte is clearly chasing bouts against the likes of Bellew, Joshua and Wilder... and he already possesses the prerequisite rankings to make those bouts become a reality. So an easy interim bout is understandable, considering the financials.

That being said, based on what Eddie Hearn stated today, why is Wilder willing to consider facing Luis Ortiz for less than 50% the payday than he was offered to face Whyte.

If this is correct, then why would Deontay flatly-refuse to fight Whyte when he was being paid more than double the sum he'll likely receive to fight Luis Ortiz instead?

Seriously, this fight is deep in the undercard, and the opponent is coming in on short notice. Also, Whyte had said that he wanted a tune-up against a tall, orthodox fighter (presumably someone that would help prepare him for the Joshua / Wilder archetype). This is not even rationalizing in hindsight. I was speculating tall, orthodox, mediocre Americans five days ago.

Lackeos wrote:I could imagine him looking to make a match against Razvan Cojanu or Cassius Chaney, based on his presence for orthodox opponents of Wilder / Joshua size. Probably not Marselles Brown.

Taansend wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Who will show a better performance? Lennox Lewis or Dillian Whyte?

I'll be damned you do have a sense of humor

He just copied my post from the British site

Let him have this one. He's never had a good post.

tiny_acres wrote:

Taansend wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

I'll be damned you do have a sense of humor

He just copied my post from the British site

Let him have this one. He's never had a good post.

The British part made me aware that this guy fought Lewis as well once, I didn't realise Taansend made a similar joke there earlier as well TBH.

Enlightened-One wrote:It's simply a stay busy fight for Whyte, because the promoter of the event wasn't willing to fund a big payday in order to facilitate the Brit facing a marquee heavyweight opponent.

Whyte is clearly chasing bouts against the likes of Bellew, Joshua and Wilder... and he already possesses the prerequisite rankings to make those bouts become a reality. So an easy interim bout is understandable, considering the financials.

That being said, based on what Eddie Hearn stated today, why is Wilder willing to consider facing Luis Ortiz for less than 50% the payday than he was offered to face Whyte.

If this is correct, then why would Deontay flatly-refuse to fight Whyte when he was being paid more than double the sum he'll likely receive to fight Luis Ortiz instead?

I believe that not everything was in the media and part (at least) of what was in the media wasn't true

Whyte vs Grant is off, Hearn is looking for a new opponent. good because vs Zimnoch Grant was looking only for a possibility to be counted out as quickly as possible and he showed completely nothing.

bigman1968 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:It's simply a stay busy fight for Whyte, because the promoter of the event wasn't willing to fund a big payday in order to facilitate the Brit facing a marquee heavyweight opponent.

Whyte is clearly chasing bouts against the likes of Bellew, Joshua and Wilder... and he already possesses the prerequisite rankings to make those bouts become a reality. So an easy interim bout is understandable, considering the financials.

That being said, based on what Eddie Hearn stated today, why is Wilder willing to consider facing Luis Ortiz for less than 50% the payday than he was offered to face Whyte.

If this is correct, then why would Deontay flatly-refuse to fight Whyte when he was being paid more than double the sum he'll likely receive to fight Luis Ortiz instead?

I believe that not everything was in the media and part (at least) of what was in the media wasn't true

Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout.

When all members of the opposing parties report the same financial figures, then there's really no reason to doubt them.

Enlightened-One wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:It's simply a stay busy fight for Whyte, because the promoter of the event wasn't willing to fund a big payday in order to facilitate the Brit facing a marquee heavyweight opponent.

Whyte is clearly chasing bouts against the likes of Bellew, Joshua and Wilder... and he already possesses the prerequisite rankings to make those bouts become a reality. So an easy interim bout is understandable, considering the financials.

That being said, based on what Eddie Hearn stated today, why is Wilder willing to consider facing Luis Ortiz for less than 50% the payday than he was offered to face Whyte.

If this is correct, then why would Deontay flatly-refuse to fight Whyte when he was being paid more than double the sum he'll likely receive to fight Luis Ortiz instead?

I believe that not everything was in the media and part (at least) of what was in the media wasn't true

Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout.

When all members of the opposing parties report the same financial figures, then there's really no reason to doubt them.

Even if the numbers fits, we'll never know the details of the negotiations.

marvelous marv wrote:Wilder would have fought Whyte if Hearn didn't ask for promotional control of Wilder from here on out. The point is so contentious that Hearn wondered if Lou Dibella might physically confront him.

That, if true, explains a bit

bigman1968 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
I believe that not everything was in the media and part (at least) of what was in the media wasn't true

Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout.

When all members of the opposing parties report the same financial figures, then there's really no reason to doubt them.

Even if the numbers fits, we'll never know the details of the negotiations.

Eddie Hearn and Deontay Wilder have both clearly explained that the $7m fight purse demand was the only stumbling block that scuppered a potential bout between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Dillian Whyte.

Trying to debunk real-world facts or events by suggesting that "the media doesn't always tell the truth " or by claiming that "we'll never know the precise details of negotiations"... is simply a lazy debating ploy, especially considering both sets of opposing parties have already clearly articulated precisely the same information during videod interviews.

If you did your research into this matter, you'd surely appreciate the fact that my claims aren't simply speculation... Why don't you verify it yourself?

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

Taansend wrote:
He just copied my post from the British site

Let him have this one. He's never had a good post.

The British part made me aware that this guy fought Lewis as well once, I didn't realise Taansend made a similar joke there earlier as well TBH.

Hey it was a good joke. I may bash every bad post you make but fair is fair. I give you credit for your one good post

Enlightened-One wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Deontay Wilder very publicly corroborated Eddie Hearn's offer for the Whyte bout when he openly admitted to rejecting a fight purse of $3m, by claiming he wanted $7m instead.

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout.

When all members of the opposing parties report the same financial figures, then there's really no reason to doubt them.

Even if the numbers fits, we'll never know the details of the negotiations.

Eddie Hearn and Deontay Wilder have both clearly explained that the $7m fight purse demand was the only stumbling block that scuppered a potential bout between 'The Bronze Bomber' and Dillian Whyte.

Trying to debunk real-world facts or events by suggesting that "the media doesn't always tell the truth " or by claiming that "we'll never know the precise details of negotiations"... is simply a lazy debating ploy, especially considering both sets of opposing parties have already clearly articulated precisely the same information during videod interviews.

If you did your research into this matter, you'd surely appreciate the fact that my claims aren't simply speculation... Why don't you verify it yourself?

I do not care that much

Why did the wach fight fall thru? That would have been a decent fight for body snatcher