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GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 20:42
by Esquire
I was on the GGG bandwagon early and have been a fan since the first time I saw him fight. Two years ago I wouldn't have given Canelo much of a chance. But now I'm not so sure. GGG got hit a lot in recent fights and Canelo can really crack.
I think Canelo can box and avoid being stopped if that's what he wants to do. But I can also see him nailing GGG and putting him out.
So my prediction is this: If anyone is going to win by stoppage it will be Canelo. I can also see GGG being drained at this weight at this point in his career. Don't know who will win but I'm confident Canelo won't get stopped. Just a feeling.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 22:21
by lazboy
I feel like canelo can only stop G to the body or stop him after doing serious body damage but I see the fight being more jabbing than hooking overall as canelo does have a jab but who knows....50/50 fight.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 22:39
by jas80s
I would be pretty surprised if this turned into a fire fight. They both defintitely know how to fight, GGG has a great jab to work off of so he'll be patient, and Canelo is a lot harder to hit clean than he gets credit for, so he'll be measured as usual. This is going to be tactical and both guys are going to be reticent to really sit down and put punches together against such a dangerous opponent. I could see a knockdown on a perfectly timed shot, but I don't see a war here.
Man, would I love to be wrong.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 23:47
by Ossyrules
GGG has the better chance of stoppage, which I think he will get. Punches bigger than canelo, canelo not elusive enough and will catch a lot.
What ggg hits, he hurts badly. Canelo isn't the style to beat him.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 28 Jul 2017, 23:50
by gilgamesh
GGG IS going to win by KO I think. So I think the percentage of that being a possibility is fairly high obviously.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 00:23
by Kalan
It will be a clear decision win for Golovkin... If there's a stoppage it will be Canelo's corner stopping it between rounds... Canelo is a very strong man and a hard puncher.. He's a good boxer.. His feet aren't as quick as Golovkin's and his jab isn't as accurate or as rangy.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:54
by caldo2025
If someone doesn't go to sleep in this one then one thing is for sure, both guys will never be the same after. 12 rounds of fighting in a phone booth with power that these two guys have? Forget about it. Both guys are going to take a beating in this fight and there's no doubt about that in my mind.
The biggest factor is going to be conditioning. Canelo is going to have a huge advantage there as his punches will have the same kind of sting for length of the fight. GGG? Who really knows? We've seen it once.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 07:56
by Badhusker
caldo2025 wrote:If someone doesn't go to sleep in this one then one thing is for sure, both guys will never be the same after. 12 rounds of fighting in a phone booth with power that these two guys have? Forget about it. Both guys are going to take a beating in this fight and there's no doubt about that in my mind.
The biggest factor is going to be conditioning. Canelo is going to have a huge advantage there as his punches will have the same kind of sting for length of the fight. GGG? Who really knows? We've seen it once.
I think stamina will be more of a factor than anything in this fight. Both can take punches, but it is Canelo that has showed signs of fatigue more. He likes to take parts of rounds off and rest at the ropes with hopes of counter punching. That will be his downfall if that is part of his game plan. He needs to be in the best cardio shape of his life to win this one.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 09:14
by Verdi
I think the only way GGG will win is by KO. I don't think GGG will be able to outbox Canelo, but I don't think Canelo will be able to KO GGG.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 13:11
by samdance
I've been going back and forth on this one so much.
I think if ggg boxes smart and patient (i.e. vs Lemieux) he has a real chance of a pts win. To me it all depends if Canelo can counter and avoid that rangey jab. I think that any other tactics employed by ggg will play into canelos hands.
Therefore I agree that if someone's getting stopped in this fight it's ggg.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 13:39
by crusader
Is Canelo really that big of a puncher? He's heavy handed, but he couldn't drop or seriously damage little Cotto, he hit Angulo with everything and got laughed at, and he scored his two biggest KOs over notoriously chinny opponents who aren't middleweights. His stoppages came against smaller guys who were picked to flatter him...
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 13:58
by Boxing Writer
crusader wrote:Is Canelo really that big of a puncher? He's heavy handed, but he couldn't drop or seriously damage little Cotto, he hit Angulo with everything and got laughed at, and he scored his two biggest KOs over notoriously chinny opponents who aren't middleweights. His stoppages came against smaller guys who were picked to flatter him...
Yeah, and he couldn't drop Matthew Hatton in 12 rounds, who was knocked down hard by light hitting welterweight Yuri Nuzhnenko in the very first round of their fight. And Canelo's punches seemed to have much less impact on Cotto and Mosley than Pacquaio's ones had on younger and better versions of them.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 14:59
by caldo2025
Badhusker wrote:caldo2025 wrote:If someone doesn't go to sleep in this one then one thing is for sure, both guys will never be the same after. 12 rounds of fighting in a phone booth with power that these two guys have? Forget about it. Both guys are going to take a beating in this fight and there's no doubt about that in my mind.
The biggest factor is going to be conditioning. Canelo is going to have a huge advantage there as his punches will have the same kind of sting for length of the fight. GGG? Who really knows? We've seen it once.
I think stamina will be more of a factor than anything in this fight. Both can take punches, but it is Canelo that has showed signs of fatigue more. He likes to take parts of rounds off and rest at the ropes with hopes of counter punching. That will be his downfall if that is part of his game plan. He needs to be in the best cardio shape of his life to win this one.
It seems as though GGG has a lot of respect for Canelo's ability and power per his many interviews. It seems that there's two GGG's inside the ring...one that doesn't respect the others power and will take shots purposely to give one and another that does respect the other fights power and fights smart. See the Brook fight if you want the former and the Lemieux fight for the latter.
The GGG that fought Lemieux was as close to unbeatable as i've ever seen in a Middleweight. That jab was like most fighters right hands. He absolutely shattered Lemieux's face with it. GGG pretty much got the stoppage as a result of accumulation of jabs. You don't see that very often.
Why GGG doesn't fight like that against everyone is beyond me.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 17 Aug 2017, 23:14
by Badhusker
I might be alone in this opinion, but I think GGG may have layed off a little in his last fight. Canelo, regardless of what he said, has been ducking GGG. No one with the big Mexican "pride" just gives up the belt instead of fighting, and comes up with lame excuses. GGG being mid 30's and looking human in his last fight in my mind at least made Canelo take the fight.
The Brook fight is one folks like to bring up as one GGG was exposed at. WTF? Brook didn't even last 6 rounds. End of story. Khan is ahead on most every card early too. Duh.
All that said, I still say GGG will have to KO Canelo to win, or at least dominate him clearly. Looking forward to it.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 13:56
by boxing_rocks
Canelo's power is overrated. He could not drop Cotto or hurt Chavez.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 15:36
by davie
caldo2025 wrote:Badhusker wrote:caldo2025 wrote:If someone doesn't go to sleep in this one then one thing is for sure, both guys will never be the same after. 12 rounds of fighting in a phone booth with power that these two guys have? Forget about it. Both guys are going to take a beating in this fight and there's no doubt about that in my mind.
The biggest factor is going to be conditioning. Canelo is going to have a huge advantage there as his punches will have the same kind of sting for length of the fight. GGG? Who really knows? We've seen it once.
I think stamina will be more of a factor than anything in this fight. Both can take punches, but it is Canelo that has showed signs of fatigue more. He likes to take parts of rounds off and rest at the ropes with hopes of counter punching. That will be his downfall if that is part of his game plan. He needs to be in the best cardio shape of his life to win this one.
It seems as though GGG has a lot of respect for Canelo's ability and power per his many interviews. It seems that there's two GGG's inside the ring...one that doesn't respect the others power and will take shots purposely to give one and another that does respect the other fights power and fights smart. See the Brook fight if you want the former and the Lemieux fight for the latter.
The GGG that fought Lemieux was as close to unbeatable as i've ever seen in a Middleweight. That jab was like most fighters right hands. He absolutely shattered Lemieux's face with it. GGG pretty much got the stoppage as a result of accumulation of jabs. You don't see that very often.
Why GGG doesn't fight like that against everyone is beyond me.
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Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 06:50
by Badhusker
boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo's power is overrated. He could not drop Cotto or hurt Chavez.
Good point. Not so much Cotto, but a severely drained Chavez for sure. GGG would have stopped that version of Chavez easily.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 00:15
by SenorPipino
This fight is guaranteed to go the distance.
Golovkin will ride a bicycle and become a pure boxer.
He believes he's faster and wants no part of Canelo-s power.
Will circle and use his jab to keep Canelo out of punching range.
The Mexican , however, has a huge surprise for Golovkin.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 00:25
by punchoutsb
What's all this about Canelo's power? Canelo has never been a big puncher. If he were to stop GGG it would be accumulation and fatigue. I don't think that's going to happen.
Re: GGG/Canelo KO chances
Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 03:27
by Oiky
I think GGG will take this fight by KO, late