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Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 18:35
by cuban glass
Oleksandr Teslenko
Sergey Kuzmin
Vladyslav Sirenko
they are the top three in my opinion.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 18:36
by cuban glass
and Filip Hrgovic of course, who is due to make his debut soon, He could be a star, he ticks all the boxes and is a natural born fighter.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 18:42
by ValMar
Dubois.....
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 19:06
by Boxing Writer
Dubois, in my opinion.
Hrgovic is good too. He doesn't have any claer weaknesses - he is good (or decent at least) in everything. Hope he wll turn pro soon with a good promoter.
Sirenko and Kuzmin both are strong and powerful, but I suspect both can be outboxed by a fighter with a good footwork and jab.
Joe Joyce is very interesting prospect for me - he will turn 32 y.o. soon, but he is very big and strong, has good power and unbeliveable workrate for his size. Goes to the body well too. On the other hand he is slow and hittable and his chin is questionable, but it just makes him even more exciting to watch.
Ivan Dychko is very tall and can box pretty well, but his stamina doesn't seem to be good and his chin is questinable too.
Efe Ajagba is HUGE puncher and he seems taller than he is listed on BoxRec.
Tony Yoka? The second coming of Tyrell Biggs. Talented, but vulnerable.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 19:29
by Ossyrules
Dubois physically looks the real deal, but I have doubts he is going to be quite as good as some make out. He looks fairly standard in the training clips I've watched. Good, but if I were to watch Joshua do the same routine there's clear difference.
Of course he's 20 year old kid so has all the time he needs to improve beyond recognition, but still
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 19:30
by Ossyrules
Joyce has a chance of being a solid prospect but doesn't have so much time
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 21:40
by JohnL
Adam Kownacki has power and a good chin.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 22:49
by KiwiRider
Well after today, it isn't Miller...
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:03
by Tarkus
cuban glass wrote:Oleksandr Teslenko
Sergey Kuzmin
Vladyslav Sirenko
they are the top three in my opinion.
Where have you dag these people up from and what makes them top prospects? They haven't done anything in pros and all have mediocre amateur credentials.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:16
by Pukka Cheese
Daniel Dubois
Nathan Gorman
Joe Joyce
Tony Yoka
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:18
by Tarkus
JohnL wrote:Adam Kownacki has power and a good chin.
Slow, fat and totally unskilled bum.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:27
by crusader
Tarkus wrote:cuban glass wrote:Oleksandr Teslenko
Sergey Kuzmin
Vladyslav Sirenko
they are the top three in my opinion.
Where have you dag these people up from and what makes them top prospects? They haven't done anything in pros and all have mediocre amateur credentials.
Kuzmin won the European Championships and stopped Joe Joyce in 1. He doesnt look very good as a pro to me, but his amateur results are respectable.
Agree with Ossyrules on Dubois. Plenty of time left, but for now he looks very raw to me. I think his physique makes it easy for people to talk likes he's another AJ, but I havent really been blown away so far.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:28
by Ilya Muromets
Tarkus wrote:JohnL wrote:Adam Kownacki has power and a good chin.
Slow, fat and totally unskilled bum.
Slow my foot. He holds the record for the most punches thrown in a single round by a heavyweight. I never even heard of most of the names on this thread. As for Big Baby, his bull like strength and ability to take a punch makes him a threat.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:38
by Tarkus
crusader wrote:Tarkus wrote:cuban glass wrote:Oleksandr Teslenko
Sergey Kuzmin
Vladyslav Sirenko
they are the top three in my opinion.
Where have you dag these people up from and what makes them top prospects? They haven't done anything in pros and all have mediocre amateur credentials.
Kuzmin won the European Championships and stopped Joe Joyce in 1. He doesnt look very good as a pro to me, but his amateur results are respectable.
Agree with Ossyrules on Dubois. Plenty of time left, but for now he looks very raw to me. I think his physique makes it easy for people to talk likes he's the next AJ, but I havent really been blown away so far.
Still, amateur European title is not an achievement to rank someone as the best prospect. Especially a 30 years old, fat geezer.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:40
by crusader
It's a solid achievement considering the strength of European amateur boxing. Agree that he's not top 3....
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:43
by Tarkus
x2x wrote:Tarkus wrote:JohnL wrote:Adam Kownacki has power and a good chin.
Slow, fat and totally unskilled bum.
Slow my foot. He holds the record for the most punches thrown in a single round by a heavyweight. I never even heard of most of the names on this thread. As for Big Baby, his bull like strength and ability to take a punch makes him a threat.
Slow feet and hands as well. I guarantee you he wont take punches from top HWs. AJ 1 rounder.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:48
by Ilya Muromets
Kownacki is already ranked the #3 heavy in the US and #11 in the world.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 23:59
by Tarkus
With whom Hrgovic is turning pro? I dont see any info.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 03:24
by Lackeos
Tony Yoka, Tom Schwarz, Nathan Gorman, Darmani Rock, Daniel Dubois, Efe Ajagba, Hussein Ishaish (if he turns pro soon), Filip Hrgović (if he turns pro soon), Bakhodir Jalolov (if he turns pro soon).
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 03:53
by Boxing Writer
Martin Bakole Ilunga just demolished in the first round Dominic Akinlade, who went the distance against Nathan Gorman in his previous fight.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 05:37
by asdfjkl
Your guys got up to 11 fights experience, I can name quite a lot of boxers with a lot less experience as 11 fights who are most likely far better...
Rostislav Plechko got a remarkeble record, maybe he´s just lucky, he doesn´t even seem to be that big, but 11 fights, 11 KO´s, 10 of them in the first round and only 1 in the 2nd?! On top of that only 5 guys with a losing record, so it's not like a Deontay Wilder record either.
Remarkeble numbers for someone I've never heard anybody mentioning.
I know for a fact Tyrone Spong is a very big talent since he has already been a 10 time champion of the world in kickboxing.
Tony Yoka is a real talent, he could become a world heavyweight champ in the future.
Daniel Dubois could become a world champion in the future as well.
Agron Smakici is someone I keep my eye on.
I´m personally taking Mladen Miljas very serious, an intelligent young, but tall and strong guy with ambitions.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 12:39
by pound per pound
Boxing Writer wrote:Dubois, in my opinion.
Hrgovic is good too. He doesn't have any claer weaknesses - he is good (or decent at least) in everything. Hope he wll turn pro soon with a good promoter.
Sirenko and Kuzmin both are strong and powerful, but I suspect both can be outboxed by a fighter with a good footwork and jab.
Joe Joyce is very interesting prospect for me - he will turn 32 y.o. soon, but he is very big and strong, has good power and unbeliveable workrate for his size. Goes to the body well too. On the other hand he is slow and hittable and his chin is questionable, but it just makes him even more exciting to watch.
Ivan Dychko is very tall and can box pretty well, but his stamina doesn't seem to be good and his chin is questinable too.
Efe Ajagba is HUGE puncher and he seems taller than he is listed on BoxRec.
Tony Yoka? The second coming of Tyrell Biggs. Talented, but vulnerable.
Thanks for the write up. Hrgovic seems best equipped to become the next champion.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 13:08
by stellar
Is Hrgovic boxing in profi??i dont think..and will be?when?
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 17:57
by cuban glass
Filip Hrgovic says he will be making his pro debut in September, He says he has many pro offers but it's 90% likely he signs with Sauerland and fights in Germany.
Re: Best Heavyweight Prospects?
Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 18:04
by cuban glass
Tarkus wrote:cuban glass wrote:Oleksandr Teslenko
Sergey Kuzmin
Vladyslav Sirenko
they are the top three in my opinion.
Where have you dag these people up from and what makes them top prospects? They haven't done anything in pros and all have mediocre amateur credentials.
You clearly no nothing about about Heavyweight Prospects. anytime people have been talking about HW prospects in the last years or two Kuzmin and Teslenko's names have been mentioned a lot. Any knowledgeble boxing fan knows about them. Kuzmin was a top amateur he was about the 5th to 7th best heavyweight in the world before he turned pro.He was European Gold medalist ( 99% of the best mateur super heavyweights are from Europe!) Sirenko was a good amateur in the Youths.
Don;t just be a troll,YOU name your best heavyweight prospects then! idiot