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Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:04
by halfamill
Cotto is retiring this year. Why not aim to be a 5 division champion by facing one of the weaker title holders like Tyron Zeuge? He won't have to drain and has nothing to lose. He could of easily faced De Carolis while he was a champion as he was one of the weakest title holders at 168 in recent years.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ummmm, no.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:05
by gilgamesh
He's undersized at 160 pounds. I think his next fight is gonna be at 154. Middleweight was already a bridge that normally would've been too far, but he the stars aligned for Cotto get the big win and take the Middleweight title.
He won't be winning any 168 pound titles. Even over the likes of Zeuge.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:07
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:He's undersized at 160 pounds. I think his next fight is gonna be at 154. Middleweight was already a bridge that normally would've been too far, but he the stars aligned for Cotto get the big win and take the Middleweight title.
He won't be winning any 168 pound titles. Even over the likes of Zeuge.
He may fight Lemieux. That's a good match up for him, assuming he's still what he was two years ago.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:13
by ElJefe
He's way too small. Even for his "middleweight fights" he was coming in way under 160. Was the Geale fight set at a 157lbs CW? He came in a few pounds under that iirc. He's a light middleweight at the biggest.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:39
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:He's undersized at 160 pounds. I think his next fight is gonna be at 154. Middleweight was already a bridge that normally would've been too far, but he the stars aligned for Cotto get the big win and take the Middleweight title.
He won't be winning any 168 pound titles. Even over the likes of Zeuge.
He may fight Lemieux. That's a good match up for him, assuming he's still what he was two years ago.
I wouldn't make that assumption. I'd be picking Lemieux to beat him. Should be an interesting matchup anyway though.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:45
by Lackeos
Cotto is 5' 7" welterweight (who has been competing in the wrong division for a while) with a 67" wingspan. He really should not be fighting in a division where the fighters are 168 pounds, 6' 0", with a 74" wingspan. Especially because he is almost 37 and would have that disadvantage tandem with the massive size disadvantage.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:He's undersized at 160 pounds. I think his next fight is gonna be at 154. Middleweight was already a bridge that normally would've been too far, but he the stars aligned for Cotto get the big win and take the Middleweight title.
He won't be winning any 168 pound titles. Even over the likes of Zeuge.
He may fight Lemieux. That's a good match up for him, assuming he's still what he was two years ago.
I wouldn't make that assumption. I'd be picking Lemieux to beat him. Should be an interesting matchup anyway though.
I don't think very highly of Lemiuex, I think Cotto couldn't miss him with a blindfold on.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:56
by Ossyrules
Cotto would get beat by inferior boxers who are just too big at the top of 168
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 14:58
by punchoutsb
I wouldn't like to see Miguel attempt that. He's too small for MW, I think a serious beating would be waiting for him at 168.
He should end his career back down at 154. I wouldn't want to see him fight Lemieux either; Cotto is too old and shopworn and shouldn't be taking punches from a guy like Lemieux.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:35
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
He may fight Lemieux. That's a good match up for him, assuming he's still what he was two years ago.
I wouldn't make that assumption. I'd be picking Lemieux to beat him. Should be an interesting matchup anyway though.
I don't think very highly of Lemiuex, I think Cotto couldn't miss him with a blindfold on.
Yeah, but could he hurt him?
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
I wouldn't make that assumption. I'd be picking Lemieux to beat him. Should be an interesting matchup anyway though.
I don't think very highly of Lemiuex, I think Cotto couldn't miss him with a blindfold on.
Yeah, but could he hurt him?
Sure, he could certainly grind up his face. I don't even think he'd have trouble.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:52
by MachoTime
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
I don't think very highly of Lemiuex, I think Cotto couldn't miss him with a blindfold on.
Yeah, but could he hurt him?
Sure, he could certainly grind up his face. I don't even think he'd have trouble.
You and Gilga whatever truly Mayweather nutthuggers.Just admit it you and Gigla whatever just love Mayweather.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:56
by gilgamesh
MachoTime wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
Yeah, but could he hurt him?
Sure, he could certainly grind up his face. I don't even think he'd have trouble.
You and Gilga whatever truly Mayweather nutthuggers.Just admit it you and Gigla whatever just love Mayweather.
I'm a Mayweather nuthugger? Last I checked I wasn't even a fan of his
I point out facts about his career when people make false claims pertaining to it. That's because I'm a fan of the truth.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:58
by SaadOffTheDeck
Some troll from the maxboxing days. You know you're dealing with a mentally ill individual when they bring up an 11 year old internet grudge.

Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:17
by MachoTime
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Some troll from the maxboxing days. You know you're dealing with a mentally ill individual when they bring up an 11 year old internet grudge.

Yeah sure. Your a loser. You go and disrespect people on this forum like Jip.That's all you do. No one pays attention to your stupid blog. You wanna fu*k with me Ill come back ten fold Mark Lyons.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:20
by MachoTime
gilgamesh wrote:MachoTime wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Sure, he could certainly grind up his face. I don't even think he'd have trouble.
You and Gilga whatever truly Mayweather nutthuggers.Just admit it you and Gigla whatever just love Mayweather.
I'm a Mayweather nuthugger? Last I checked I wasn't even a fan of his
I point out facts about his career when people make false claims pertaining to it. That's because I'm a fan of the truth.
Your a loser too. When this Mayweather McGregor thing come to past you can kiss my a**
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:25
by punchoutsb
What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:29
by gilgamesh
MachoTime wrote:gilgamesh wrote:MachoTime wrote:
You and Gilga whatever truly Mayweather nutthuggers.Just admit it you and Gigla whatever just love Mayweather.
I'm a Mayweather nuthugger? Last I checked I wasn't even a fan of his
I point out facts about his career when people make false claims pertaining to it. That's because I'm a fan of the truth.
Your a loser too. When this Mayweather McGregor thing come to past you can kiss my a**
I think you meant 'You're" a loser.
And when this Mayweather McGregor thing comes (notice the s there) to pass
If you're gonna insult people you might wanna work on basic ability to write coherently first...dumbass.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:31
by gilgamesh
punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Lately? That's all the CS has been for years
I respond in kind when people give me sh*t, but I just keep carrying on with my thoughts and opinions on the discussions. People can take my comments as they will, I think they're usually pretty solid.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:31
by MachoTime
punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Yeah well Im off tangent. Mayweather Nutthuggers are getting to me. Im soory can't help it.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:32
by gilgamesh
MachoTime wrote:punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Yeah well Im off tangent. Mayweather Nutthuggers are getting to me. Im story can't help it.
story...can't help it...wow...that's genius.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:33
by gilgamesh
MachoTime wrote:punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Yeah well Im off tangent. Mayweather Nutthuggers are getting to me. Im soory can't help it.
If you could read you'd see that the people you call Mayweather nuthuggers are in fact NOT Mayweather nuthuggers.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:34
by punchoutsb
gilgamesh wrote:punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Lately? That's all the CS has been for years
I respond in kind when people give me sh*t, but I just keep carrying on with my thoughts and opinions on the discussions. People can take my comments as they will, I think they're usually pretty solid.
As you can see I've been here for a long time--it's been getting worse lately IMO. I enjoy my fair share of spirited debate, but the past couple weeks it just seems people have been getting far more wound than usual.
Re: Miguel Cotto at 168
Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 16:35
by MachoTime
gilgamesh wrote:MachoTime wrote:punchoutsb wrote:What is going on in the CS lately? Why so much vitriol lately, and some coming from recognizable posters?
Yeah well Im off tangent. Mayweather Nutthuggers are getting to me. Im story can't help it.
story...can't help it...wow...that's genius.
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