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A lot of people are asking for this fight. But how much credit would Lomachenko really receive if he defeats Rigondeaux? Would he get bombarded with a bunch of excuses for his win?

This fight should have already happened. Personally, I think Arum threw a wrench in the cogs like he is famous for. It backfired when he put Donaire in with Rigo, and didn't want to take the chance again. I think Loma wins, but it would be a great fight if the weight was fair. Now at 130 and Rigo 36 Im not sure. Team Rigo claims they agree to fight. Arum claims otherwise. Someone is outright lying. My guess is Arum.

Rigo (or to be accurate his English-speaking team) has been involved in a long twitter war with Klimas who kept saying that he is not making fights and telling them to contact Arum, but I don't think they ever have.

Ship has pretty much sailed on this. Doesn't seem like any serious negotiation has been considered by either party. The timing is as off as it could be, Loma moving up weights and Rigo getting old.

I don't really know what's supposed to be so interesting about this fight. I don't think Rigondeaux would win a round against Lomachenko. He might have at one time, but as Blodhemn mentioned he's getting old. He's been riding on that Nonito Donaire win for so long the wheels have flown off. It's time Rigondeaux to either sh*t or get off the pot. If he prices himself out of any big fight opportunities...oh well.

Arum is claiming that money has been tentatively agreed to, but that Rigo wont directly speak with Dino Duva (head of boxing at Roc Nation)...take the claim for what you will. Berchelt is a more meaningful fight at 130, though Rigo is still rated highly, and I imagine that beating him would strengthen Loma's resume in many people's eyes.

I think Loma handles Rigo pretty clearly...very good bigger man vs very good smaller man.

crusader wrote:Arum is claiming that money has been tentatively agreed to, but that Rigo wont directly speak with Dino Duva (head of boxing at Roc Nation)...take the claim for what you will. Berchelt is a more meaningful fight at 130, though Rigo is still rated highly, and I imagine that beating him would strengthen Loma's resume in many people's eyes.

I think Loma handles Rigo pretty clearly...very good bigger man vs very good smaller man.

The age difference is a factor as well.

Rigo won't be busy enough to beat Loma at this stage. Loma
Would win by pushing the fight, being more aggressive and throwing more. Loma is too fast to avoid for long stretches. It will take a great bigger man to beat him.

Rigondeaux have some dangerous punching power even if he is 2 weightclasses lighter. His punches are sharp and accurate. Lomachenko will win this fight and get lot of credit for defeating Rigo, but he definitely cannot do sowboating like hi did against Marriaga

I think Loma wins, but not easily. If he's the same Rigo from 4 years ago I'd actually favor Rigo. Lomachenko is really good, but he not all that.

It'd be an amazing fight but age (and inactivity) and size go against rigo

Rigo is too small for Loma, it would be a mismatch.
There is not any worthy opponent for Loma at 130.
Unfortunately, he has to move up and face Mikey.

ValMar wrote:Rigo is too small for Loma, it would be a mismatch.
There is not any worthy opponent for Loma at 130.
Unfortunately, he has to move up and face Mikey.

Come on, ValMar! Berchelt, GTank, Coralles, Vargas, LSC, and Frampton are all worthy. The question is whether any of them would be allowed to fight him.

I can't see any of them personally shying away from a fight with Lomassiah.

Davies already said that Loma isn't a big enough draw. I think before that there was something about needing more time...

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:Rigo is too small for Loma, it would be a mismatch.
There is not any worthy opponent for Loma at 130.
Unfortunately, he has to move up and face Mikey.

Come on, ValMar! Berchelt, GTank, Coralles, Vargas, LSC, and Frampton are all worthy. The question is whether any of them would be allowed to fight him.

I can't see any of them personally shying away from a fight with Lomassiah.

Tanzio, my friend, I would like that you are right, but, unfortunately, you are wrong here. There is no fighter at 130 capable to defeat Loma (at least next three years, the loss connected with injury could be the only exception). Salido did not defeat him, the ref and the judges did.....
Lomychenko-Garcia at 135 would be 50/50 type of fight.

Loma & rigo are boxing royalty.

Who can say they are olympic gold medalist and undefeated pro champions. Not many can say that of themselves.

The winner of that would get huge credit. This would be a big time fight.

A fight between these two would be second to none right now, as far as technique and ability are concerned. By far both men are head and shoulders above most if not all the others in their divisions.

Fighting each other in the middle ground at Featherweight would seem like the fairest idea but when you take the boxing side out of it and look at it from a business side, the fight might never happen.
Why would their promoters risk their champions against arguably the most dangerous opponent, when they can arrange a much less dangerous and potentially more lucrative fight at their current weights? Simply put, they wouldn't.
This fight might only happen when one or both men are on the verge of retirement and would be looking for one last super fight to end their career.

Rigo is nearly 37 though, so I wouldn't think that retirement is far off. If he continues with this path, one of these limited guys is eventually going to catch up to him and give him more serious problems than Amagasa did.

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:Rigo is too small for Loma, it would be a mismatch.
There is not any worthy opponent for Loma at 130.
Unfortunately, he has to move up and face Mikey.

Come on, ValMar! Berchelt, GTank, Coralles, Vargas, LSC, and Frampton are all worthy. The question is whether any of them would be allowed to fight him.

I can't see any of them personally shying away from a fight with Lomassiah.

Tanzio, my friend, I would like that you are right, but, unfortunately, you are wrong here. There is no fighter at 130 capable to defeat Loma (at least next three years, the loss connected with injury could be the only exception). Salido did not defeat him, the ref and the judges did.....
Lomychenko-Garcia at 135 would be 50/50 type of fight.

You are assuming too much. He would certainly be the favorite but all of those opponents are competitive.

There is a big difference between being allowed to fight and being willing to fight. With all the promoter bs it is sometimes hard to sort out.

Lomachenko gets stopped by Mikey Garcia
Rigo gets stopped by Yamanaka

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Come on, ValMar! Berchelt, GTank, Coralles, Vargas, LSC, and Frampton are all worthy. The question is whether any of them would be allowed to fight him.

I can't see any of them personally shying away from a fight with Lomassiah.

Tanzio, my friend, I would like that you are right, but, unfortunately, you are wrong here. There is no fighter at 130 capable to defeat Loma (at least next three years, the loss connected with injury could be the only exception). Salido did not defeat him, the ref and the judges did.....
Lomychenko-Garcia at 135 would be 50/50 type of fight.

You are assuming too much. He would certainly be the favorite but all of those opponents are competitive.

I prefer to watch competitive fights, naturally, and I would like to see a lot of them. But, in the divisions below WW, it is not the case. Loma is a grand-master undoubtedly, but his competition is pretty weak. I am very sad because of that, I have to add...........

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Tanzio, my friend, I would like that you are right, but, unfortunately, you are wrong here. There is no fighter at 130 capable to defeat Loma (at least next three years, the loss connected with injury could be the only exception). Salido did not defeat him, the ref and the judges did.....
Lomychenko-Garcia at 135 would be 50/50 type of fight.

You are assuming too much. He would certainly be the favorite but all of those opponents are competitive.

I prefer to watch competitive fights, naturally, and I would like to see a lot of them. But, in the divisions below WW, it is not the case. Loma is a grand-master undoubtedly, but his competition is pretty weak. I am very sad because of that, I have to add...........

Lomassiah fought Marriaga at sfeather the other night, ValMar, not JMM, Pac, Morales, FMJ, or Barrera, ffs.

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote: You are assuming too much. He would certainly be the favorite but all of those opponents are competitive.

I prefer to watch competitive fights, naturally, and I would like to see a lot of them. But, in the divisions below WW, it is not the case. Loma is a grand-master undoubtedly, but his competition is pretty weak. I am very sad because of that, I have to add...........

Lomassiah fought Marriaga at sfeather the other night, ValMar, not JMM, Pac, Morales, FMJ, or Barrera, ffs.

I am not religious, but there is no other way except praying to see more competitive fights at 130 (or 126, 122, etc...)....

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

ValMar wrote:
I prefer to watch competitive fights, naturally, and I would like to see a lot of them. But, in the divisions below WW, it is not the case. Loma is a grand-master undoubtedly, but his competition is pretty weak. I am very sad because of that, I have to add...........

Lomassiah fought Marriaga at sfeather the other night, ValMar, not JMM, Pac, Morales, FMJ, or Barrera, ffs.

I am not religious, but there is no other way except praying to see more competitive fights at 130 (or 126, 122, etc...)....

You are sounding like the old FMJ zombie acolytes who believe that FMJ would have beaten everyone he never fought. Lomassiah has unfinished business at 130. If he legitimately can't get them in the ring it is understandable why he would move up. If Berchelt, Corralles, GTank and Vargas will fight him, he should prove the invincibility you have deemed him.