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Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 05:48
by kbackup408
Don't wanna' ramble on too much but what did you lads think of the footage + the knockdown?

Asked few friends at my local gym today and seemed pretty split, few people noted that the stances + tangling of feet might have played a part

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 06:17
by bbjc
Not really. Was nothing to do with power anyway. Just watched it this is gonna be a painful night for connor. People go on about mayweather not having power. But he hits plenty hard enough. And hes deadly accurate with it as well. Connor looks a pity pat puncher in comparison.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 06:26
by BitPlayer
I don't think so, he put his hand on the back of Paulie's head and pushed down. And you can see the ref wave it as no a knockdown who could see it much more clearly.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 06:40
by handsofstone
Im still undecided, a punch did land but McGregor also definitely pushed Malignaggi to help him down, balance played a part as well, Paulie claims the feet were tangled which is obviously common with a righty/lefty but you cant tell, Malignaggi never mentioned nothing about the feet tangling before the footage was released and he does seem to be protesting a bit too much, its like he's replying to every single tweet on the matter

Lolz at Dana White tweeting a 5 second clip of McGregor landing 1 or 2 shots thus proving he can box :lol:

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 06:59
by smiling assassin
Not for me, it was a mixture of a push on the back of the head and tangling of feet. Away from the knockdown I think there should be more of a point about the lack of technique in Mcgregors punches. This fight will be very embarrassing for him

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 07:27
by ALI
When i first watched the clip on youtube i thought there was nothing to it, but watching the clip in The Sun, it does appear he tagged him and Mallignagi's head does appear to jerk a bit. I'm leaning more towards it being a knockdown than a push now. Here's the link, and the 2nd video is also pretty interesting: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4228109/ ... alignaggi/

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 07:48
by kbackup408
ALI wrote:When i first watched the clip on youtube i thought there was nothing to it, but watching the clip in The Sun, it does appear he tagged him and Mallignagi's head does appear to jerk a bit. I'm leaning more towards it being a knockdown than a push now. Here's the link, and the 2nd video is also pretty interesting: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/4228109/ ... alignaggi/
Can't open that link pal it's the S*n, but agree with you mate did look like force of the punch took him down

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 08:08
by lurkyshaka
It probably was a KD, but it was of the scuffing, messy variety. Certainly wasn't a clean shot landed and over you go. Would it have been called in a fight? I think its 50/50

More impressive to me was the straight left hand he landed in the other sequence, that was a powerful and damaging shot.

But obviously a couple tiny clips released prove next to nothing really. Everything in context. Lets see the full sparring session and then we can properly judge. Bit of a snakey move by White this because its obviously footage to give the perception that Paulie took a whooping. And that may or may not be the case, but that footage doesn't prove jacksh*t on its own.

Sure the MMA junkies will be lapping this up though...lol

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 08:10
by Tarkus
Not only he got dropped but also clearly bashed up. If this was during a fight there is no doubt it would be called a knock down. It doesnt have to be a single rocking shot to call it KD.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 08:35
by Flashing Blade
All credit to Paulie here. The build up to the biggest grossing fight ever has been all about Paulie Malignaggi. He's been in the media more than Conor and Floyd combined and this footage will ensure it's more of the same next week.

Malignaggi v McGregor is a money fight now- even if Conor gets beaten as badly as most of us expect him to.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 10:20
by Ossyrules
Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 10:36
by TheGman
Why doesnt mcgregor release the whole spar nit just a little clip,according to paulie he gave mcgregor a boxing lesson,if i had evidence of beating someone up in sparring and they say they beat me up id release it to prove them wrong not release a little clip

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 10:48
by Dixonian
Looked like a combo of push and punch, so not a legit knockdown for me.

Malignaggi clearly not near fighting shape either. No muscle definition at all.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 10:49
by Dixonian
Ossyrules wrote:Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged
Funnily enough when Eubank Snr used to spar apparently he used to get people to beat him up!

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 11:05
by kbackup408
Ossyrules wrote:Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged
Good point mate, probably just some eager morning energy after a gruelling gym session most people on the forum don't give a flying f about this bout !

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 14:49
by Ossyrules
Dixonian wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged
Funnily enough when Eubank Snr used to spar apparently he used to get people to beat him up!
I read Muhammad Ali used to look bad in sparring as he used to concentrate on defence a lot. So his sparring partners were loading up and not a lot coming back from the greatest! But when the opening bell rang, the greatest was the greatest!

Big audley Harrison used very modest skillset sparring partners due to what I believe was a lack of confidence. Sparring for him was a confidence builder by being able to dominate opponents.

Then you have every man and his dog has apparently done Joshua in sparring.

This is why I don't read into it. It's all on fight night

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 14:51
by Ossyrules
kbackup408 wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged
Good point mate, probably just some eager morning energy after a gruelling gym session most people on the forum don't give a flying f about this bout !
Nothing against you mate I like your posts! Just got a thing about sparring going public!

I'll watch this fight but won't do the PPV. Going against my boxing roots by pulling for the mma guy. Love mcgregor

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 15:01
by Switch hitter
If we were to go by sparring stories..... I would be a 3 weight world champion.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 15:31
by gilgamesh
Honest opinion

It was sparring so it doesn't even matter.

What you do in sparring doesn't go down in the record books.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 15:46
by coneye
Its a load of shite ,, all set up to suck in mugs to buy Mcregors next PPV against Pauly ,, start with since when do refs show up to ref a sparring session

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 16:30
by TheGman
coneye wrote:Its a load of shite ,, all set up to suck in mugs to buy Mcregors next PPV against Pauly ,, start with since when do refs show up to ref a sparring session
Mcgregor asked him to help out with the does and do nots of the rules in pro boxing and joe cortez abliged :TU:

McGregor Infamous sparring vid leaked

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 01:28
by cutsman

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 01:33
by gilgamesh
thechump wrote:
coneye wrote:Its a load of shite ,, all set up to suck in mugs to buy Mcregors next PPV against Pauly ,, start with since when do refs show up to ref a sparring session
Mcgregor asked him to help out with the does and do nots of the rules in pro boxing and joe cortez abliged :TU:
Don't know what's confusing about the rules of Boxing that you'd need to hire somebody to explain 'em to you to begin with. I figured this sh*t out pretty quickly.

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 02:22
by chinarich
thechump wrote:
coneye wrote:Its a load of shite ,, all set up to suck in mugs to buy Mcregors next PPV against Pauly ,, start with since when do refs show up to ref a sparring session
Mcgregor asked him to help out with the does and do nots of the rules in pro boxing and joe cortez abliged :TU:
Hmm, I thought McGregor said yesterday that he'd been boxing his whole life, strange that he hasn't managed to pick the rules up yet...

Re: Honest opinion was that a knock down?

Posted: 15 Aug 2017, 06:51
by Dixonian
Ossyrules wrote:
Dixonian wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:Not meaning to sound petulant here, but there should be a who cares option.

Not a who cares in the grand scheme of things, ie the mismatch fight, but the who cares aspect that it was just sparring.

Sparring is training, just preparing for the big fight, should be private. Eubank jr was a pioneer of loading up sparring of him bullying a young kid in sparring on snapchat, it's wrong!

Malignaggi is/was employed by mcgregor to prep him for Mayweather. Mcgregor will soar loads of rounds to get ready, and will look shite in a lot of them. It doesn't mean anything till it's the big fight, that's when the fighting gets judged
Funnily enough when Eubank Snr used to spar apparently he used to get people to beat him up!
I read Muhammad Ali used to look bad in sparring as he used to concentrate on defence a lot. So his sparring partners were loading up and not a lot coming back from the greatest! But when the opening bell rang, the greatest was the greatest!

Big audley Harrison used very modest skillset sparring partners due to what I believe was a lack of confidence. Sparring for him was a confidence builder by being able to dominate opponents.

Then you have every man and his dog has apparently done Joshua in sparring.

This is why I don't read into it. It's all on fight night
That's interesting about Audley - I always thought he looked like a guy who didn't spar enough.