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If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 10:53
by Jip
Joshua
Usyk
Gvozdyk
Eubank
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Verdejao
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
Nientes
Tanaka
Nyomtrong

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 11:45
by Mexi-Box
Hard to say for some divisions, particularly SMW, FW, LHW, WW, and LMW where no one sticks out really.

HW: Joshua
CW: Usyk
LHW: Beterbiev
SMW: Groves (as of now)
MW: Golovkin
LMW: Andrade
WW: Spence Jr.
LWW: Crawford
LW: Mikey
SFW: Lomachenko
FW: Valdez
SBW: Rigondeaux
BW: Yamanaka
SFW: Inoue
FW: Selby
LFW: Tanaka
MW: Meyothin

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 11:47
by Mexi-Box
Jip wrote:Joshua
Usyk
Gvozdyk
Eubank
GGG
Lara
Spence
Crawford
Verdejao
Lomachenko
Santa Cruz
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
Nientes
Tanaka
Nyomtrong
I think Nietes is getting old. Santa Cruz has the best resume at FW, but man, Valdez is really good. Santa Cruz/Valdez would be a beast of a fight.

Gvozdyk looks really great, but people forget how much of a beast Beterbiev is. I've not been impressed by Eubank Jr., Verdejo, or Lara.

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 13:40
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Joshua
Usyk
Ward
Benavidez
Golovkin
Lara (god knows)
Spence
Crawford
M Garcia
Lomachenko
Frampton
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
Higa (god knows)
Tanaka
Menayothin

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:25
by Ossyrules
Mexi-Box wrote:Hard to say for some divisions, particularly SMW, FW, LHW, WW, and LMW where no one sticks out really.

HW: Joshua
CW: Usyk
LHW: Beterbiev
SMW: Groves (as of now)
MW: Golovkin
LMW: Andrade
WW: Spence Jr.
LWW: Crawford
LW: Mikey
SFW: Lomachenko
FW: Valdez
SBW: Rigondeaux
BW: Yamanaka
SFW: Inoue
FW: Selby
LFW: Tanaka
MW: Meyothin
I agree with mexi except ward for 175

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:30
by crusader
Ossyrules wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:Hard to say for some divisions, particularly SMW, FW, LHW, WW, and LMW where no one sticks out really.

HW: Joshua
CW: Usyk
LHW: Beterbiev
SMW: Groves (as of now)
MW: Golovkin
LMW: Andrade
WW: Spence Jr.
LWW: Crawford
LW: Mikey
SFW: Lomachenko
FW: Valdez
SBW: Rigondeaux
BW: Yamanaka
SFW: Inoue
FW: Selby
LFW: Tanaka
MW: Meyothin
I agree with mexi except ward for 175
I'd have Ward at LHW, Lara at LMW, and I'd go with a few guys before Selby at flyweight. IMO Selby has been a bit overrated; a lot of slappy, powerless stuff from him, and for such a lauded boxer he can be rather sloppy at times. I have a feeling that he won't cut it against the best guys.

I think I'd also edge Santa Cruz over the other guys at 126.

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:35
by Ossyrules
crusader wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Mexi-Box wrote:Hard to say for some divisions, particularly SMW, FW, LHW, WW, and LMW where no one sticks out really.

HW: Joshua
CW: Usyk
LHW: Beterbiev
SMW: Groves (as of now)
MW: Golovkin
LMW: Andrade
WW: Spence Jr.
LWW: Crawford
LW: Mikey
SFW: Lomachenko
FW: Valdez
SBW: Rigondeaux
BW: Yamanaka
SFW: Inoue
FW: Selby
LFW: Tanaka
MW: Meyothin
I agree with mexi except ward for 175
I'd have Ward at LHW, Lara at LMW, and I'd go with a few guys before Selby at flyweight. IMO Selby has been a bit overrated; a lot of slappy, powerless stuff from him, and for such a lauded boxer he can be rather sloppy at times. I have a feeling that he won't cut it against the best guys.
Hmm good point about Lara forgot about him. I rate Andrew Selby though I expect him to go on to big things

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:37
by crusader
He still fights like an amateur to me, and he doesn't really stand out as being the super skilled guy he's made out to be. I get the impression that he's largely overwhelming lower-tier guys with speed, and I see flaws that I think the best in the division can exploit. I also think he'll struggle to get respect at top level with his tapping shots...

A lot of people seem to rate him higher than Lee, but I think the elder Selby is a smoother boxer and better puncher.

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:42
by Ossyrules
crusader wrote:He still fights like an amateur to me, and he doesn't really stand out as being the super skilled guy he's made out to be. I get the impression that he's largely overwhelming lower-tier guys with speed, and I see flaws that I think the best in the division can exploit. I also think he'll struggle to get respect at top level with his tapping shots...

A lot of people seem to rate him higher than Lee, but I think the elder Selby is a smoother boxer and better puncher.
I think he is better than Lee, but until its proven it doesn't mean much. We will see how he goes

Re: If all the best fought each other/who'd be #1

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 17:42
by crusader
Why do you think he's better?