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Golovkin was the better boxer against Jacobs and Lemieux, no doubt.

GGG vs Lemieux compubox stats:

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GGG vs Jacobs :

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GGG's has a great jab!

I have no idea why he didn't stick to his jab more against Jacobs. He could hardly miss with it in the 4th round. Not only was it landing, it was snapping Jacobs' head back consistently. If he had thrown it as much as he did in the 4th for the whole fight, he'd have won by a much clearer margin.

ElJefe wrote:I have no idea why he didn't stick to his jab more against Jacobs. He could hardly miss with it in the 4th round. Not only was it landing, it was snapping Jacobs' head back consistently. If he had thrown it as much as he did in the 4th for the whole fight, he'd have won by a much clearer margin.

Pacing himself for 12 rds vs a bigger man ?

Jacobs made a monkey out of him.

Very poor performance from Golovkin.

I thought Jacobs edged that fight and Lemieux brings very little to the table.

The Lemieux performance was excellent. I suspect he'll look to box like that against Canelo also. I thought GGG looked very off colour against Jacobs and was very surprised he couldn't stop him.

I think that 3G clearly defeated Jacobs on the Night of the American's career defining performance. It was close but clear.

It is humorous that people insist that 3G is in serious decline based on the Brook and Jacobs performances. Brook and Jacobs are top shelf boxers. He defeated both, clearly. He did not get Jacobs out of there.

Might that be why Team GingerHead is giving him the fight at this point, along with the fact the Mexican's reputation has been suffering a severe beatdown?

I think that 3G was finally revealed to be beatable in the Jacob's fight, to his worshippers. It was still a masterful performance, given the level of competition. 3G has always been beatable, but it will take a great effort to achieve it.

Jacobs best effort fell a bit short.

I wouldn't say Jacobs was among the best, but I do think GGG's jab was on point (he could've used it more consistently though) and IMO a lot of people overrated Jacobs' flashy flurries.

apollo creed wrote:

ElJefe wrote:I have no idea why he didn't stick to his jab more against Jacobs. He could hardly miss with it in the 4th round. Not only was it landing, it was snapping Jacobs' head back consistently. If he had thrown it as much as he did in the 4th for the whole fight, he'd have won by a much clearer margin.

Pacing himself for 12 rds vs a bigger man ?

If anything sticking behind his jab as he did in the 4th would probably take less energy than loading up on single shots like he did for much of the rest of the fight.

Horse wrote:Jacobs made a monkey out of him.

Very poor performance from Golovkin.

You have a monkey in your head.

Too hungry to keep the KO streak going maybe? GGG's jab was the best single punch from either of them, and I agree that he should've been using it more consistently. I didn't think Jacobs was doing much to counter it either...

Tanzio wrote:I think that 3G clearly defeated Jacobs on the Night of the American's career defining performance. It was close but clear.

It is humorous that people insist that 3G is in serious decline based on the Brook and Jacobs performances. Brook and Jacobs are top shelf boxers. He defeated both, clearly. He did not get Jacobs out of there.

Might that be why Team GingerHead is giving him the fight at this point, along with the fact the Mexican's reputation has been suffering a severe beatdown?

I think that 3G was finally revealed to be beatable in the Jacob's fight, to his worshippers. It was still a masterful performance, given the level of competition. 3G has always been beatable, but it will take a great effort to achieve it.

Jacobs best effort fell a bit short.

Good post!

ElJefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

ElJefe wrote:I have no idea why he didn't stick to his jab more against Jacobs. He could hardly miss with it in the 4th round. Not only was it landing, it was snapping Jacobs' head back consistently. If he had thrown it as much as he did in the 4th for the whole fight, he'd have won by a much clearer margin.

Pacing himself for 12 rds vs a bigger man ?

If anything sticking behind his jab as he did in the 4th would probably take less energy than loading up on single shots like he did for much of the rest of the fight.

GGG when he's pumping that jab he's puting some force behind it like a straight right and to keep that jab going for 12 rds at a high pace is tough as hell. Plus GGG has a very educated jab. He ain't throwing that jab just for the sake of it.

apollo creed wrote:

ElJefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
Pacing himself for 12 rds vs a bigger man ?

If anything sticking behind his jab as he did in the 4th would probably take less energy than loading up on single shots like he did for much of the rest of the fight.

GGG when he's pumping that jab he's puting some force behind it like a straight right and to keep that jab going for 12 rds at a high pace is tough as hell. Plus GGG has a very educated jab. He ain't throwing that jab just for the sake of it.

He wastes far less energy landing his jab as efficiently as he does compared to over committing and missing with big single punches. Plus he took less in return when he was behind his jab. It's up there with the best jabs in boxing, maybe the best, IMO sticking with it rather than looking for the KO would have made the fight much easier. Missing and being countered is much more tiring than landing the jab at will.

ElJefe wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

ElJefe wrote:
If anything sticking behind his jab as he did in the 4th would probably take less energy than loading up on single shots like he did for much of the rest of the fight.

GGG when he's pumping that jab he's puting some force behind it like a straight right and to keep that jab going for 12 rds at a high pace is tough as hell. Plus GGG has a very educated jab. He ain't throwing that jab just for the sake of it.

He wastes far less energy landing his jab as efficiently as he does compared to over committing and missing with big single punches. Plus he took less in return when he was behind his jab. It's up there with the best jabs in boxing, maybe the best, IMO sticking with it rather than looking for the KO would have made the fight much easier. Missing and being countered is much more tiring than landing the jab at will.

Yeah I agree that GGG was very efficient when he boxed behind the jab but maybe he thought that Jacobs doesn't have a strong chin and he was loading some heavy shots to crack it.

He might try to box similar to the way he boxed Lemieux against Canelo, but it'll be way different. Everything Lemieux throws just about is wide hooking shots. Be it big right hooks or left hooks. He seldom throws straight punches or jabs. Canelo has excellent jab, and is a significantly more skilled boxer than Lemieux so it'll definitely be a taller order to try to outbox him than it was the limited Lemieux.

That being said, I have my doubts as to whether or not Canelo would be able to match Jacobs' effort which even though I thought was still a losing one, is undoubtedly the toughest bout anybody has given GGG to date.

I don't think Canelo's jab is that good

crusader wrote:I don't think Canelo's jab is that good

I don't either, but he is a strong counterpuncher with good punch variety. I don't think GGG can just jab him to death like he did the limited Lemiuex.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

crusader wrote:I don't think Canelo's jab is that good

I don't either, but he is a strong counterpuncher with good punch variety. I don't think GGG can just jab him to death like he did the limited Lemiuex.

Yeah, he will have to chop down Canelo's body.

apollo creed wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

crusader wrote:I don't think Canelo's jab is that good

I don't either, but he is a strong counterpuncher with good punch variety. I don't think GGG can just jab him to death like he did the limited Lemiuex.

Yeah, he will have to chop down Canelo's body.

That would be a smart plan. Jab body uppercut. GGG is a smart fighter with a world class training team behind him. He has shown the discipline to stick to a plan, the Jacobs fight showed that.
I'm excited to see how he plays it.

His 2 best opponents. He looked very good against both. Beating this prime version of jacobs who fought g is a tough task! Canelo, charlo or fliyd would get wrecked by jacobs. Trust me

It's easy for me to criticise the fight plan from the comfort of my armchair/lazboy....so I'll do it . I think I/we all/the boxing community/trainers thought Jacobs was chinny. I mean Piroq wasn't exactly a fearsome puncher i don't think, also Mora dropped him. IMO Golovkin went head hunting. He ignored the long lean...well leanish because Jacobs was big....body of Jacobs. The jabs were great to begin with, what about a Floyd jab to the belly, what about some commitment down there, he's had plenty of body Ko's. Anyway I had GGG just winning it on second rewatch. Tough fight for both. Overall though, Golovkin did the far greater damage but obviously you need to add up the rounds.

As for Lemieux, I've probably watched that fight straight 7 times, shown a few people too. I love it. I don't really have a great deal of respect for Lemieux and his boxing ability, I feel someone like Jacobs would outclass him in the same manner regardless the fight is ENTERTAINING. The fearsome puncher Lemieux, gearing up for a supposed war, gets done in with a jab. Thats why I love boxing, thats why I love a jab. Also....as mentioned...body punch stoppage.

gilgamesh wrote:He might try to box similar to the way he boxed Lemieux against Canelo, but it'll be way different. Everything Lemieux throws just about is wide hooking shots. Be it big right hooks or left hooks. He seldom throws straight punches or jabs. Canelo has excellent jab, and is a significantly more skilled boxer than Lemieux so it'll definitely be a taller order to try to outbox him than it was the limited Lemieux.

That being said, I have my doubts as to whether or not Canelo would be able to match Jacobs' effort which even though I thought was still a losing one, is undoubtedly the toughest bout anybody has given GGG to date.

Gotta agree with you about the Canelo jab and disagree with the others. I think it factor. I think he's been training it. It came out a bit in the Chavez fight. There's other fights he's used it, several years ago, ah Lopez, I watched that a few months ago, I think it was that fight. He has a jab although we havnt seen it in years. Whether on not he has the condidence to commit to it like a Golovkin we will see. I'm thinking he does use it far more than usual though.

lazboy wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:He might try to box similar to the way he boxed Lemieux against Canelo, but it'll be way different. Everything Lemieux throws just about is wide hooking shots. Be it big right hooks or left hooks. He seldom throws straight punches or jabs. Canelo has excellent jab, and is a significantly more skilled boxer than Lemieux so it'll definitely be a taller order to try to outbox him than it was the limited Lemieux.

That being said, I have my doubts as to whether or not Canelo would be able to match Jacobs' effort which even though I thought was still a losing one, is undoubtedly the toughest bout anybody has given GGG to date.

Gotta agree with you about the Canelo jab and disagree with the others. I think it factor. I think he's been training it. It came out a bit in the Chavez fight. There's other fights he's used it, several years ago, ah Lopez, I watched that a few months ago, I think it was that fight. He has a jab although we havnt seen it in years. Whether on not he has the condidence to commit to it like a Golovkin we will see. I'm thinking he does use it far more than usual though.

Yeah, he'll have to.