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Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 11:58
by mchuffy
Does anyone think that McGregors boxing training and ring experience with Mayweather will have a positive effect on his mma career should he return?

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 12:04
by SAPFO
I think after he gets his ass handed to him by Floyd, he'll then go back to the UFC to be the new Rhonda Rousey where his fighting career will disappear into a big pile of nobody gives a feck anymore.

He'll have had a cracking 2 year 'primetime' slot in the worlds sports entertainment, have made a feckin fortune $$$$$$$$, and have a job for life as a UFC talking head.




And he may not be the best boxer, but he has good timing.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 12:16
by Lackeos
He's getting some of the better boxing sparring that an MMA fighter is ever going to get. But I seriously doubt that his experience in the ring with Mayweather will properly carry over into MMA. The ability to land a punch and only a punch on an opponent who is surrounded by a wall of shoulders is not a skill you need in MMA. If McGregor were fighting a more conventional boxer whose ability was more appropriately matched with McGregor, like Diego Chaves, then I think McGregor's boxing skill would actually improve. You can't improve by competing with somebody 2 million levels above you.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 12:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
No, Boxing has no place in the cage and a one sided ass whooping isn't going to add to his already immense ego. If anything, not training in the other disciplines for months and adding a world of punishment to his body will affect him adversely.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 15:56
by p4p1
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No, Boxing has no place in the cage and a one sided ass whooping isn't going to add to his already immense ego. If anything, not training in the other disciplines for months and adding a world of punishment to his body will affect him adversely.
His ability to land his straight left in MMA won't be improved that greatly from his boxing experience. While others such as Khabib and Ferguson are working on how to avoid his striking and beat him, he's got a one way ticket to a beating in a boxing ring. I also think that although it should've already been done already once Mayweather shows how to easily take away his one weapon others will likely be able to adapt it to MMA.

I'm not sure he will go back to the UFC anyway.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 16:07
by punchoutsb
Training one discipline exclusively will not help you be better in multiple disciplines.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 16:11
by KiwiRider
I don't think he will go back to MMA for a while at least. If at all. He will not need the money and his training has been for this boxing match, and making weight while retaining muscle used for punching not grappling. So to go back to MMA would take maybe 4-6 months.
Of course if he wins ( :lol: ) he said he will keep boxing.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 16:28
by keirw
No, the boxing stance that he will have to adopt to be able to throw and avoid punches in boxing is very different to the mma stance that is focused also on takedown and low kick defence.

It probably won't matter as he may not go back to mma.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 16:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
He'll go back to MMA, he's going to get a piece of the UFC and is still quite young. He has a lot left to accomplish.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 18:17
by diddy
Won't have any impact. Everything is different in MMA. You can't enter an MMA cage with a wide-legged boxing stance.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:12
by SFW
The damage this beating may do to McGregor's psyche/ego may have the strongest effect, there's no telling if he'll ever be as good as he was at anything if he's embarrassed and rag dolled by an "aging little guy with brittle hands". I suspect he won't handle it well.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:16
by punchoutsb
SFW wrote:The damage this beating may do to McGregor's psyche/ego may have the strongest effect, there's no telling if he'll ever be as good as he was at anything if he's embarrassed and rag dolled by an "aging little guy with brittle hands". I suspect he won't handle it well.
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
punchoutsb wrote:
SFW wrote:The damage this beating may do to McGregor's psyche/ego may have the strongest effect, there's no telling if he'll ever be as good as he was at anything if he's embarrassed and rag dolled by an "aging little guy with brittle hands". I suspect he won't handle it well.
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.
:TU:

Losing to Nate didn't hurt him, neither will this.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:19
by punchoutsb
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
SFW wrote:The damage this beating may do to McGregor's psyche/ego may have the strongest effect, there's no telling if he'll ever be as good as he was at anything if he's embarrassed and rag dolled by an "aging little guy with brittle hands". I suspect he won't handle it well.
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.
:TU:

Losing to Nate didn't hurt him, neither will this.
The loss to Nate hit him harder than this will; that was his craft, this is a money grab. He comes out of this smelling like roses.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:24
by SFW
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
SFW wrote:The damage this beating may do to McGregor's psyche/ego may have the strongest effect, there's no telling if he'll ever be as good as he was at anything if he's embarrassed and rag dolled by an "aging little guy with brittle hands". I suspect he won't handle it well.
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.
:TU:

Losing to Nate didn't hurt him, neither will this.
He didn't win that rematch, got bitch slapped and ran he clearly didn't get over that first loss, thank God he was the only money maker Dana had left and it was close so of course he got it. This second loss, one where he doesn't have the option of giving up the neck to avoid getting brutally knocked out, will probably sting even more. Your prolly right, he's so delusionally arrogant that nothing could faze him but I wouldn't rule out this loss messing with his head it could happen.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:28
by punchoutsb
SFW wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.
:TU:

Losing to Nate didn't hurt him, neither will this.
He didn't win that rematch, got bitch slapped and ran he clearly didn't get over that first loss, thank God he was the only money maker Dana had left and it was close so of course he got it. This second loss, one where he doesn't have the option of giving up the neck to avoid getting brutally knocked out, will probably sting even more. Your prolly right, he's so delusionally arrogant that nothing could faze him but I wouldn't rule out this loss messing with his head it could happen.
:roll:

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 19:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
SFW wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Conor isn't fragile or stupid. He knows what this fight is, and he knows why he took it. He will come through this more well known and much much wealthier. He'll be fine.
:TU:

Losing to Nate didn't hurt him, neither will this.
He didn't win that rematch, got bitch slapped and ran he clearly didn't get over that first loss, thank God he was the only money maker Dana had left and it was close so of course he got it. This second loss, one where he doesn't have the option of giving up the neck to avoid getting brutally knocked out, will probably sting even more. Your prolly right, he's so delusionally arrogant that nothing could faze him but I wouldn't rule out this loss messing with his head it could happen.
It was 3-2 McGregor, pretty clear. I love Nate, wish you were right. How did he manage to put the mental anguish behind him and smoke Alvarez?

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 20:04
by SFW
3-2 Nate is how I and many others saw it. And an admitted mistake not following the grappling plan he'd trained with put Alvarez in a hole quick. Yet Alvarez gets rocked and socked up by most opponents and out guts them. That fight he didn't even get going, got stung and kept fighting dumb hoping something would land. Credit to Connor for making it happen but that was little resistance everything went right. Against Floyd, nothings gonna go right, and I bet he panics again and gets flustered.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 20:06
by SaadOffTheDeck
SFW wrote:3-2 Nate is how I and many others saw it. And an admitted mistake not following the grappling plan he'd trained with put Alvarez in a hole quick. Yet Alvarez gets rocked and socked up by most opponents and out guts them. That fight he didn't even get going, got stung and kept fighting dumb hoping something would land. Credit to Connor for making it happen but that was little resistance everything went right. Against Floyd, nothings gonna go right, and I bet he panics again and gets flustered.
I can see you have a lot of love for the man. :lol:

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 20:09
by punchoutsb
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
SFW wrote:3-2 Nate is how I and many others saw it. And an admitted mistake not following the grappling plan he'd trained with put Alvarez in a hole quick. Yet Alvarez gets rocked and socked up by most opponents and out guts them. That fight he didn't even get going, got stung and kept fighting dumb hoping something would land. Credit to Connor for making it happen but that was little resistance everything went right. Against Floyd, nothings gonna go right, and I bet he panics again and gets flustered.
I can see you have a lot of love for the man. :lol:
One of the most unbiased posts I've ever seen :lol:

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 20:12
by SFW
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
SFW wrote:3-2 Nate is how I and many others saw it. And an admitted mistake not following the grappling plan he'd trained with put Alvarez in a hole quick. Yet Alvarez gets rocked and socked up by most opponents and out guts them. That fight he didn't even get going, got stung and kept fighting dumb hoping something would land. Credit to Connor for making it happen but that was little resistance everything went right. Against Floyd, nothings gonna go right, and I bet he panics again and gets flustered.
I can see you have a lot of love for the man. :lol:
Haha f'sho, I'm on his touch butt team but never make eye contact

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 20:59
by Pkipp32
The short answer: no

I don't see how this would help him in his MMA career, it might actually hurt him because it'll mean he's out for over a full year and presumably has not been training anything besides boxing. He's already a dominant MMA striker so it will help his punching, but his overall game will suffer from lack of practice. Just my 3 cents

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 15:04
by seattledirk
Pkipp32 wrote:The short answer: no

I don't see how this would help him in his MMA career, it might actually hurt him because it'll mean he's out for over a full year and presumably has not been training anything besides boxing. He's already a dominant MMA striker so it will help his punching, but his overall game will suffer from lack of practice. Just my 3 cents
That and there are already precedents to prove the contrary.
Former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski for instance was already a good striker when he figure that he would become a world beater if he focused on his boxing skills. So he enlisted Freddie Roach and trained with him for several years. While his punches did indeed look crisper, his career took a turn for the worse. He got KOed left and right and soon thereafter Freddie Roach left him. It was probably to Arlovski's detriment that he took on a one-sided training which focused only on punches.

MMA is more than the sum of all skills. Conor will be worse than before because he won't have trained MMA for a year and of course being 75 mio richer won't exactly motivate him more to train hard for fights than generate 1-2 mio for him.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 15:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
Good post, though I don't think Conor has ever made 1 or 2 million for a fight. Either much less, or much more. The last couple years has been much more.

Re: Will McGregor become a better mma fighter?

Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 19:10
by northern
I think his hand's will have gotten better, as will his stand up game all together thanks to the boxing training but that is if he decides to even return to MMA or fighting in general.

The amount of money he will make in this fight alone is a life changing sum, let's all be honest, the fight game is a dangerous one, a huge pay day like this is basically win or lose and you make a fortune and everyone would be asking themselves the same question: do you want to keep fighting afterwards ?
He doesn't have anything to prove in MMA, he's won the title in the worlds biggest MMA organisation in two weight classes. Beaten some of the biggest names in the sport. Proved he is a celebrity in and out of the fighting world. He wouldn't need to go back to fighting so if he doesn't retire all together after this fight I'll be surprised.