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uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 20:27
by crusader
The talented Davis is 2 pounds over and loses his title on the scales. Is he showing serious discipline problems this early in his career? He was overweight his first two tries last fight as well.

He doesn't really seem that big for the division and I think his 5'6" listing may actually be generous.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 20:37
by Jip
Mmhhh...i can see a bit if lack of focus. Hangin with floyd etc.. He should do nothing but training.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 20:40
by punchoutsb
I'm not a fan of his. He has skills, but he'd better get his head right if he wants to be successful over the long term.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 20:47
by gilgamesh
Might as well move up in weight.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 21:11
by KiwiRider
gilgamesh wrote:Might as well move up in weight.
Yep. It's gone from inevitable to confirmed.
Pity he could not have a title defence in front of a large audience, even if his opponent is somewhat overmatched. Now it's just a beatdown.
Young guy, plenty of time to get momentum in the next weight class.
Might pay him to just get advice from Floyd and not partake in the lifestyle...

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 21:33
by lookingaround87
I don't think he'll do much at LW.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 21:36
by gilgamesh
lookingaround87 wrote:I don't think he'll do much at LW.
What did he do at 130?

He still didn't even conclusively prove he was the #2 guy there.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 21:47
by lookingaround87
gilgamesh wrote:
lookingaround87 wrote:I don't think he'll do much at LW.
What did he do at 130?

He still didn't even conclusively prove he was the #2 guy there.
His win against Pedraza was impressive. He's too small for 135 though. I doubt his power will be as effective either.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 21:58
by gilgamesh
it's 5 pounds. If he's too small for 135 he would've been too small for Berchelt or Francisco Vargas at 130.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 22:10
by boxing_rocks
Broner #2 in making.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 25 Aug 2017, 23:17
by Jip
boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 00:36
by Mexi-Box
Jip wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.
:lol: No he doesn't.

Also, all the top dudes at 130 lbs., minus Lomachenko, are gigantic and come in as WWs.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 00:38
by gilgamesh
Jip wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.
ATG power? Based on what?

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 04:14
by Ossyrules
Jip wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.
All time great power :lol:

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 04:38
by Tomasino
crusader wrote:The talented Davis is 2 pounds over and loses his title on the scales. Is he showing serious discipline problems this early in his career? He was overweight his first two tries last fight as well.

He doesn't really seem that big for the division and I think his 5'6" listing may actually be generous.

Going by what he posts on instagram, he is a fuckin idiot. Thinks he's a rapper and always on about the street.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 05:48
by Jip
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:Broner #2 in making.
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.
ATG power? Based on what?
Look what happens when he connects clean. That boom.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 06:08
by Counter-puncher
crusader wrote:The talented Davis is 2 pounds over and loses his title on the scales. Is he showing serious discipline problems this early in his career? He was overweight his first two tries last fight as well.

He doesn't really seem that big for the division and I think his 5'6" listing may actually be generous.
Yeah I think his size could give him significant problems at higher weights, not unlike say Gamboa at lightweight

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 06:24
by caldo2025
what an absolute F up this was. There's NO reason anyone should not make the weight for their fight on this card. This is going to be at least one of the most watched cards in boxing history and this kid can't show the professionalism to make the weight. disgusting.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 11:45
by Tony1244
He's young. He's gaining weight and will fight at lightweight and then higher. At least they didn't cancel the fight.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 11:57
by ValMar
The worst possible way to avoid Lomachenko....

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:14
by gilgamesh
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
No. Ab is weak. Gd has atg power. And yes power is important in boxing.
ATG power? Based on what?
Look what happens when he connects clean. That boom.
Let's see him knock out some great or very good fighters before we say he's got ATG power. He's a powerful, and skilled fighter. ATG power I'm not seeing. If he had that Pedraza would've been taken out a lot quicker.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 14:23
by Lackeos
Too many people in this thread saying he's too small for lightweight when he's the same height as Cotto.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:22
by Jip
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
ATG power? Based on what?
Look what happens when he connects clean. That boom.
Let's see him knock out some great or very good fighters before we say he's got ATG power. He's a powerful, and skilled fighter. ATG power I'm not seeing. If he had that Pedraza would've been taken out a lot quicker.
He has atg power regardless who he beats. Garry russel doesnt need to fight a very good opponent for me to judge if he has fast hands or not. It is visible. The same goes for punching power, it is visible if somebody got good or phenomenal power. Davis got it.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:27
by gilgamesh
Jip wrote:
He has atg power regardless who he beats. Garry russel doesnt need to fight a very good opponent for me to judge if he has fast hands or not. It is visible. The same goes for punching power, it is visible if somebody got good or phenomenal power. Davis got it.
He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.

Re: uh oh Gervonta Davis

Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 15:39
by Jip
gilgamesh wrote:
Jip wrote:
He has atg power regardless who he beats. Garry russel doesnt need to fight a very good opponent for me to judge if he has fast hands or not. It is visible. The same goes for punching power, it is visible if somebody got good or phenomenal power. Davis got it.
He certainly has power. I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he has ATG power. I'm not saying his punches are weak or anything, but there have been some PHENOMENAL punchers throughout the sports history. He's got a ways to go before he matches up with the best of them.

He's not even in the biggest puncher in the division right now in his own time.
Punching power isnt much developed. You got it or you dont. Bailey didnt need to fight many opponents to convince me that his power was abnormal.

Who punches harder in his division than davis?