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So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 23:44
by Jip
What would fantasy fights (all boxers in prime & in todays time) make? Ff & my estimation.
Ali vs Tyson. 30 mill
Robinson vs Canelo. 8 mill
Hoya vs Leonard. 12 mill
Pacquiao vs Chavez. 4 mill
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 23:46
by gilgamesh
I figure 6.5 Million is as good as a fight could do pretty much. Very seldom you have that unusual mix that draws in fight fans, and people that don't give a sh*t about combat sports at the same time.
It takes more than just the talent of the two fighters to sell an event like this. You need a little P.T. Barnum to go along with it.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 31 Aug 2017, 23:47
by Best Coast
Jip wrote:What would fantasy fights (all boxers in prime & in todays time) make? Ff & my estimation.
Ali vs Tyson. 30 mill
Robinson vs Canelo. 8 mill
Hoya vs Leonard. 12 mill
Pacquiao vs Chavez. 4 mill
Like every other fantasy sport...Fantasy Boxing is nothing more than
fantasy. 
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 00:35
by halfamill
Floyd already fought the #1 mma icon of all time so why not the #1 of pro wrestling icon, The Rock. Sell the 80-100 lb difference. Make it seem like Floyd is washed up. Mention Th Rock's boxing past. Add the roody-poo trash talk. The boxing commission approves it and the public eats it up.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:13
by FastestHandsInThewest
Leonard vs hoya is a good one.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:25
by Jip
gilgamesh wrote:I figure 6.5 Million is as good as a fight could do pretty much. Very seldom you have that unusual mix that draws in fight fans, and people that don't give a sh*t about combat sports at the same time.
It takes more than just the talent of the two fighters to sell an event like this. You need a little P.T. Barnum to go along with it.
So 6.5 is somewhat the limit?
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:26
by Jip
Best Coast wrote:Jip wrote:What would fantasy fights (all boxers in prime & in todays time) make? Ff & my estimation.
Ali vs Tyson. 30 mill
Robinson vs Canelo. 8 mill
Hoya vs Leonard. 12 mill
Pacquiao vs Chavez. 4 mill
Like every other fantasy sport...Fantasy Boxing is nothing more than
fantasy.
And because its fantasy we cant talk about fantasy, are you fantasyless?
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:27
by man
i think around 10m would be the absolute
peak today. i could imagine that several
historic fights could have come close to
that:
johnson - jeffries
louis - schmeling
ali - foreman
leonard - hagler
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:30
by Jip
halfamill wrote:Floyd already fought the #1 mma icon of all time so why not the #1 of pro wrestling icon, The Rock. Sell the 80-100 lb difference. Make it seem like Floyd is washed up. Mention Th Rock's boxing past. Add the roody-poo trash talk. The boxing commission approves it and the public eats it up.
The build up would be great. Rocks trash talking skills are on another league! Casuals will buy anything, if just 2 famous persons are involved, stupidity. Joshua vs The Undertaker
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:42
by crusader
Floyd vs Trump = 10m+
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 01:44
by Jip
crusader wrote:Floyd vs Trump = 10m+
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 02:09
by gilgamesh
Jip wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I figure 6.5 Million is as good as a fight could do pretty much. Very seldom you have that unusual mix that draws in fight fans, and people that don't give a sh*t about combat sports at the same time.
It takes more than just the talent of the two fighters to sell an event like this. You need a little P.T. Barnum to go along with it.
So 6.5 is somewhat the limit?
I doubt we'll see it broken anytime soon.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 02:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
It's just a different time, Ali probably had 40 million viewers for fights.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 06:09
by Ossyrules
6.5 is pretty impressive number. Credit mcgregor he sold that fight
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 06:24
by Jip
Ossyrules wrote:6.5 is pretty impressive number. Credit mcgregor he sold that fight
Exactly. Those press con were super entertaining, even floyd was irritated didnt knew what to say and kept repeating hard work ....
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 19:27
by tiny_acres
gilgamesh wrote:Jip wrote:gilgamesh wrote:I figure 6.5 Million is as good as a fight could do pretty much. Very seldom you have that unusual mix that draws in fight fans, and people that don't give a sh*t about combat sports at the same time.
It takes more than just the talent of the two fighters to sell an event like this. You need a little P.T. Barnum to go along with it.
So 6.5 is somewhat the limit?
I doubt we'll see it broken anytime soon.
I doubt I see it in my lifetime.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 19:31
by crusader
I'm not sure if we've even seen 6.5 yet
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 21:03
by BAD INTENTIONS
Typical, Floyd is a part of something amazing ...
Let's undermine it by creating fictions, not even realistic scenarios to compare it to.
Ali/Tyson
How about God VS Baal?
The top 4 PPV events in combat sport HISTORY belong to Floyd.
The people who hate Floyd have a stronger internet/media presence ...
but there is a HUGE following that adores the guy and are willing to give him $
Hopkins (and anyone without a dick for a brain) said that it's all abo ut promotion.
ANY great fighter can be sold.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 21:06
by BAD INTENTIONS
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's just a different time, Ali probably had 40 million viewers for fights.
What if streams were counted?
Were any other's fighters closed circuit events $100?
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 21:12
by Mexi-Box
Raefal supposedly says it's not. 4 mil. is the absolute highest.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 22:16
by Best Coast
Mexi-Box wrote:Raefal supposedly says it's not. 4 mil. is the absolute highest.
Showtime says between 4-5 million PPVs:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... egor-fight
Conor McGregor's improbable challenge of Floyd Mayweather was a box-office smash.
The fight reached between 4 million and 5 million pay-per-view sales with an estimated 50 million people watching in the United States alone.
According to preliminary numbers by Showtime PPV, the fight threatens the 4.6 million benchmark set by Mayweather's 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. At $99.95 a buy, the fight is tracking to generate more than $450 million in television revenue, much of which will be shared by the two fighters.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 23:02
by Mexi-Box
Best Coast wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:Raefal supposedly says it's not. 4 mil. is the absolute highest.
Showtime says between 4-5 million PPVs:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... egor-fight
Conor McGregor's improbable challenge of Floyd Mayweather was a box-office smash.
The fight reached between 4 million and 5 million pay-per-view sales with an estimated 50 million people watching in the United States alone.
According to preliminary numbers by Showtime PPV, the fight threatens the 4.6 million benchmark set by Mayweather's 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. At $99.95 a buy, the fight is tracking to generate more than $450 million in television revenue, much of which will be shared by the two fighters.
Wouldn't be the first time Showtime lied about the numbers though.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 23:04
by Evander
Never seen anyone prove numbers here, nothing credible anyways.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 01:21
by Best Coast
Mexi-Box wrote:Best Coast wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:Raefal supposedly says it's not. 4 mil. is the absolute highest.
Showtime says between 4-5 million PPVs:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... egor-fight
Conor McGregor's improbable challenge of Floyd Mayweather was a box-office smash.
The fight reached between 4 million and 5 million pay-per-view sales with an estimated 50 million people watching in the United States alone.
According to preliminary numbers by Showtime PPV, the fight threatens the 4.6 million benchmark set by Mayweather's 2015 fight with Manny Pacquiao. At $99.95 a buy, the fight is tracking to generate more than $450 million in television revenue, much of which will be shared by the two fighters.
Wouldn't be the first time Showtime lied about the numbers though.
Not saying Showtime never lies about numbers (or anything else) but just that they tend to lie less than Dana White. And the final tallies will be a lot closer to 4.5 million than 6.5 million.
Re: So if 6.5 is the real number
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 03:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's just a different time, Ali probably had 40 million viewers for fights.
What if streams were counted?
Were any other's fighters closed circuit events $100?
That's regular TV. Streams wouldn't touch it. Not enough people that care. Too many channels.