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Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 00:14
by Best Coast
Sounds to me like they would gladly host more hybrid MMA/boxing fights in the future:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... regor-bout
The Nevada State Athletic Commission clearly feels vindicated in its handling of Saturday's well-received boxing match between Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor at T-Mobile Arena.
The junior middleweight fight was unique, of course, in that it paired Mayweather (50-0, 27 KOs) with a UFC lightweight champion, in McGregor (21-3), who had never boxed professionally.
The NSAC's decision to not only sanction the bout but also approve a last-minute request from both fighters for smaller 8-ounce gloves drew some criticism from media outlets and within the industry.
On Sunday, NSAC chairman Anthony Marnell praised the work of the commission in a statement to ESPN.
"Now that it's all said and done, the NSAC got it right at every turn," Marnell said. "From the approval of the event all the way to the stoppage.
"It's a lesson for much of the media, all the naysayers and comments from other commissions that they would have never let this fight happen. Nevada, Las Vegas, MGM and the NSAC are the best in the world at facilitating all events, especially one that was such an anomaly like this one. We knew this would be a good event that could be kept safe."
The Association of Ringside Physicians was one key detractor of the fight taking place. The ARP released a statement in opposition to the smaller gloves and was quoted on the front page of the New York Times during fight week as being against the bout entirely.
Some folks believe the ARP's opposition to the bout was a big reason why Robert Byrd's 10th-round stoppage might have been a bit premature. ARP is pretty influential...
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 05:06
by Ricky_
They weren't vindicated at all. I liked the fight but let's be honest, if they had any integrity such a bout wouldn't be sanctioned. Floyd has them bought and paid-for.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 05:20
by Ossyrules
Let's be fair the arranged fight was not anything boxing or the Nevada commission should look back on and be proud in a sporting sense. I understand there's too much money for it not to happen, but that's it from a business view. Boxing has a luxury where people can choose there opponent and this shows the worst side of that. Other sports where teams/competitors are dictated by a fixture list don't get that and will face the biggest and best challenges regardless of what money there is or what fans want to see.
The NSAC should be grateful Mayweather threw out a load of his fundamentals and fought quite poorly, and still carried mcgregor some way in the fight, or itd be a total washout.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 22:48
by Best Coast
Ossyrules wrote:Let's be fair the arranged fight was not anything boxing or the Nevada commission should look back on and be proud in a sporting sense. I understand there's too much money for it not to happen, but that's it from a business view. Boxing has a luxury where people can choose there opponent and this shows the worst side of that. Other sports where teams/competitors are dictated by a fixture list don't get that and will face the biggest and best challenges regardless of what money there is or what fans want to see.
The NSAC should be grateful Mayweather threw out a load of his fundamentals and fought quite poorly, and still carried mcgregor some way in the fight, or itd be a total washout.
The only sense in which it vindicated NSAC is that it went off well enough that it makes Las Vegas
the default location for any future crossover bouts between boxers/MMA fighters!!
NSAC Chairman Anthony Marnell basically said as much in the middle of the article:
"It's a lesson for much of the media, all the naysayers and comments from other commissions that they would have never let this fight happen. Nevada, Las Vegas, MGM and the NSAC are the best in the world at facilitating all events, especially one that was such an anomaly like this one. We knew this would be a good event that could be kept safe."
Vegas has been the Epicenter of boxing since the 1980s (when it took over from NYC, ironically spurred in part by NYC homeboy Mike Tyson having most of his world title fights in Vegas). Vegas has been the Epicenter of UFC since it started. The May-Mac spectacle now gives Vegas the inside track as the Epicenter of
collaborations/crossovers between the two combat sports!!
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 01 Sep 2017, 22:53
by Best Coast
Ricky_ wrote:They weren't vindicated at all. I liked the fight but let's be honest, if they had any integrity such a bout wouldn't be sanctioned. Floyd has them bought and paid-for.
In what possible sense would Vegas have shown "integrity" by NOT sanctioning the bout?
It was a
spectacle and Vegas has always been about spectacles/entertainment.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 02 Sep 2017, 05:44
by Ricky_
Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:They weren't vindicated at all. I liked the fight but let's be honest, if they had any integrity such a bout wouldn't be sanctioned. Floyd has them bought and paid-for.
In what possible sense would Vegas have shown "integrity" by NOT sanctioning the bout?
.
Because no authority in boxing should sanction or endorse a novice vs a 49&0 multi-weight world champion.
Thought that was obvious.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 03 Sep 2017, 08:08
by greg
..are we talking here about THE Nevada State Commission?..the one that appoints local judges to officiate in international fights thus creating equal and fair conditions for all and sundry?

...
"Nevada, Las Vegas, MGM and the NSAC are the best in the world at facilitating all events.." Indeed

Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 01:11
by Best Coast
Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:They weren't vindicated at all. I liked the fight but let's be honest, if they had any integrity such a bout wouldn't be sanctioned. Floyd has them bought and paid-for.
In what possible sense would Vegas have shown "integrity" by NOT sanctioning the bout?
.
Because no authority in boxing should sanction or endorse a novice vs a 49&0 multi-weight world champion.
Thought that was obvious.
Not obvious at all, especially since the match turned out to be a lot more competitive than expected. If McGregor had gotten badly injured as a result of the fight, you would have a leg to stand on.
But since Conor didnt even come close to getting hurt, your version of "integrity" comes off as squeamishness. Maybe you should spend less time following combat sports and focus on figure skating or dog shows.

Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 04:20
by Ricky_
Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:
In what possible sense would Vegas have shown "integrity" by NOT sanctioning the bout?
.
Because no authority in boxing should sanction or endorse a novice vs a 49&0 multi-weight world champion.
Thought that was obvious.
Not obvious at all, especially since the match turned out to be a lot more competitive than expected. If McGregor had gotten badly injured as a result of the fight, you would have a leg to stand on.
But since Conor didnt even come close to getting hurt, your version of "integrity" comes off as squeamishness. Maybe you should spend less time following combat sports and focus on figure skating or dog shows.

What a clown. The comission can't use a crystal ball to see the outcome of a fight when deciding to sanction it or not.
You wouldn't put a novice HW with 0 fights in with Wilder or AJ, such a bout shouldn't be sanctioned . Seems your case here comes down to the fact Floyd isn't a big hitter.
Get some integrity.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 16:21
by Blodhemn
"McGregor wasn't seriously injured even though we did go against the rules and allow for smaller gloves, while everyone involved raked in tremendous dough. We're tremendously proud."

Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 17:47
by Best Coast
Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:
Because no authority in boxing should sanction or endorse a novice vs a 49&0 multi-weight world champion.
Thought that was obvious.
Not obvious at all, especially since the match turned out to be a lot more competitive than expected. If McGregor had gotten badly injured as a result of the fight, you would have a leg to stand on.
But since Conor didnt even come close to getting hurt, your version of "integrity" comes off as squeamishness. Maybe you should spend less time following combat sports and focus on figure skating or dog shows.

What a clown. The comission can't use a crystal ball to see the outcome of a fight when deciding to sanction it or not.
You wouldn't put a novice HW with 0 fights in with Wilder or AJ, such a bout shouldn't be sanctioned . Seems your case here comes down to the fact Floyd isn't a big hitter.
Get some integrity.
No "crystal ball" needed. Just advise the ref to stop the fight as soon as the novice gets exhausted, but
well before he even gets hurt.
Anyone who doesnt think referee Robert Byrd was instructed
in advance to err on the side of
caution obviously doesnt understand how Vegas boxing works. As soon as the NSAC decided to ignore the well-publicized disapproval of the Association of Ring Physicians (ARP) the decision was made in advance to call a hasty finish rather than risk even a
minor injury to McGregor.
If you dispute that you are
CLUELESS about how politics drives boxing in Vegas.

Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 04 Sep 2017, 23:23
by Ricky_
Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:
Not obvious at all, especially since the match turned out to be a lot more competitive than expected. If McGregor had gotten badly injured as a result of the fight, you would have a leg to stand on.
But since Conor didnt even come close to getting hurt, your version of "integrity" comes off as squeamishness. Maybe you should spend less time following combat sports and focus on figure skating or dog shows.

What a clown. The comission can't use a crystal ball to see the outcome of a fight when deciding to sanction it or not.
You wouldn't put a novice HW with 0 fights in with Wilder or AJ, such a bout shouldn't be sanctioned . Seems your case here comes down to the fact Floyd isn't a big hitter.
Get some integrity.
No "crystal ball" needed. Just advise the ref to stop the fight as soon as the novice gets exhausted, but
well before he even gets hurt.
Anyone who doesnt think referee Robert Byrd was instructed
in advance to err on the side of
caution obviously doesnt understand how Vegas boxing works. As soon as the NSAC decided to ignore the well-publicized disapproval of the Association of Ring Physicians (ARP) the decision was made in advance to call a hasty finish rather than risk even a
minor injury to McGregor.
If you dispute that you are
CLUELESS about how politics drives boxing in Vegas.


Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 01:51
by Best Coast
Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:
What a clown. The comission can't use a crystal ball to see the outcome of a fight when deciding to sanction it or not.
You wouldn't put a novice HW with 0 fights in with Wilder or AJ, such a bout shouldn't be sanctioned . Seems your case here comes down to the fact Floyd isn't a big hitter.
Get some integrity.
No "crystal ball" needed. Just advise the ref to stop the fight as soon as the novice gets exhausted, but
well before he even gets hurt.
Anyone who doesnt think referee Robert Byrd was instructed
in advance to err on the side of
caution obviously doesnt understand how Vegas boxing works. As soon as the NSAC decided to ignore the well-publicized disapproval of the Association of Ring Physicians (ARP) the decision was made in advance to call a hasty finish rather than risk even a
minor injury to McGregor.
If you dispute that you are
CLUELESS about how politics drives boxing in Vegas.


Glad the subject puts you to sleep. NSAC wasnt about to let McGregor get hurt because they stood to lose too much $$$$$ in future gate receipts, casino profits, hotel revenues, etc. As it stands now, Vegas is poised to make hundreds of millions in future crossover MMA/boxing matches because the spectacle ended without injury. No denying they are greedy but if they were not EFFICIENT businessmen they would have gone out of business long ago.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:01
by Ricky_
Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:
No "crystal ball" needed. Just advise the ref to stop the fight as soon as the novice gets exhausted, but
well before he even gets hurt.
Anyone who doesnt think referee Robert Byrd was instructed
in advance to err on the side of
caution obviously doesnt understand how Vegas boxing works. As soon as the NSAC decided to ignore the well-publicized disapproval of the Association of Ring Physicians (ARP) the decision was made in advance to call a hasty finish rather than risk even a
minor injury to McGregor.
If you dispute that you are
CLUELESS about how politics drives boxing in Vegas.


Glad the subject puts you to sleep. NSAC wasnt about to let McGregor get hurt because they stood to lose too much $$$$$ in future gate receipts, casino profits, hotel revenues, etc. As it stands now, Vegas is poised to make hundreds of millions in future crossover MMA/boxing matches because the spectacle ended without injury. No denying they are greedy but if they were not EFFICIENT businessmen they would have gone out of business long ago.
You're proving my point for me, as to why this sanctioned match lacked integrity.
Re: Nevada State Commission Proud of How it Handled May-Mac
Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:28
by Best Coast
Ricky_ wrote:Best Coast wrote:Ricky_ wrote:

Glad the subject puts you to sleep. NSAC wasnt about to let McGregor get hurt because they stood to lose too much $$$$$ in future gate receipts, casino profits, hotel revenues, etc. As it stands now, Vegas is poised to make hundreds of millions in future crossover MMA/boxing matches because the spectacle ended without injury. No denying they are greedy but if they were not EFFICIENT businessmen they would have gone out of business long ago.
You're proving my point for me, as to why this sanctioned match lacked integrity.
Nowhere in the article I linked did the NSAC make any claims of "integrity"...they simply said the match was completed in a SAFE manner, despite the fact that the naysayers said it would be "unsafe".
"It's a lesson for much of the media, all the naysayers and comments from other commissions that they would have never let this fight happen. Nevada, Las Vegas, MGM and the NSAC are the best in the world at facilitating all events, especially one that was such an anomaly like this one. We knew this would be a good event that that could be kept SAFE."