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I'm convinced Golovkin will stop him.
I think Golovkin will just be training away as usual with no set plan about how to deal with Alvarez.
On the other hand I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Alvarez camp because if he fights his usual fight, he's in bother. Does he fight cautiously for 6 rounds, does he try to force Golovkin back, or does he think Golovkins punch power is overrated and decides to stand and trade.
Fascinating.
Golovkin in 8/9/10 rounds.

I disagree that Golovkin will have no set plan.

He recognised Lemieux's power and used the jab early on. I think we might see him do similar vs Canelo, who is more of a counter puncher and less of a pressure fighter than his image suggests.

I could see Golovkin boxing Canelo and forcing him to take the initiative. Standing in front of Canelo is a bad idea.

Alvarez's plan should be to do anything and everything to go the distance. If he goes the distance there's a solid chance he gets the decision whether he deserves it or not.

I believe Canelo targets Golovkins body from round 1 hitting in nasty hooks to the ribs and breaks GGG down over the 12

Golovkin is very outclassed in terms of boxing skills for me. Canelo hits hard enough to keep him from coming in just like Jacob's did. I don't see this fight being close at all. I think canelo gives him the walkaround and lands nice hard counters. He will have to take the odd shot from ggg and if his chin holds up I think it's a relatively easy fight. Ggg is so overrated it's unreal.

I think Alverez and his team have waited for the right time- I see Alverez winning this on points. He has a good chin and I can't see the judges giving it to GGG no matter what happens- that said, I hope I'm wrong and GGG kos him

GGG doesn't have to come in against a short, cement footed fighter in the way he did against a 6'0" fast mover; totally different match-up when it comes to movement and closing distance. And, even if he is cautious, he'll probably still be outworking Canelo, who is very much a spot fighter and often takes many breaks along the ropes.

On GGG's side, I think he should have that heavy jab in Canelo's face all night, and set his work up from there, while on Canelo's side I think he should focus on the body and quick counters, along with letting the uppercut-hook combos go when they come together.

Spiker wrote:I believe Canelo targets Golovkins body from round 1 hitting in nasty hooks to the ribs and breaks GGG down over the 12

I doubt Canelo can pull it off, but bodyshots have always seemed to be the key to beating Golovkin to me.

Anyone think there was a certain deliberacy in GGG's two most recent poor performances? As in 'I'll make you think iv got old so you take the bait'.

I do, and although he's getting old, he'll look better in this one. He should win by stoppage I think.

dalcumly wrote:I'm convinced Golovkin will stop him.
I think Golovkin will just be training away as usual with no set plan about how to deal with Alvarez.
On the other hand I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Alvarez camp because if he fights his usual fight, he's in bother. Does he fight cautiously for 6 rounds, does he try to force Golovkin back, or does he think Golovkins punch power is overrated and decides to stand and trade.
Fascinating.
Golovkin in 8/9/10 rounds.

Bro I have feeling GGG will be done dirty on the cards Saul brings too much money into Vegas ! However, if GGG stops him then f all matters

I don't think he was taking Brook seriously, and if I recall correctly he pretty much said as much before the fight. To me he looked on cruise control and not really bothered despite Brook having his moments.

I think he had more serious problems with Jacobs's combo of speed, movement, and length (2 of which Canelo doesn't have), though I think he deserved the win. The jab was very effective even against a taller, very quick opponent, and he should've been using it more consistently.

TheLeprechaun wrote:Ggg is so overrated it's unreal.

He's definitely been overrated by some, but how do you think he should be rated? I recall that just before his last fight you suggested that if he had his chin tested and dominated Jacobs, we needed to start considering him as possibly the best MW ever. That's sure a massive one fight turn, especially considering that GGG continued to show a very sturdy chin and still managed to get the win over a top contender.

I think Canelo has what it takes to win a fair decision, but I'll be super impressed and rather surprised if he gets the cakewalk win you're talking about. In your books, would that make him a strong contender for best MW ever?

Canelo doesn't have the style or tools to win this one

He has flashy moments and points wise will be in the fight but by 10 he'll be dismantled and on his bike

Big GGG fan and whereas I once liked Canelo, have found myself shifting away from him over the last year / year and a half and my fear is that all that pissing around has worked and they have timed it perfectly and caught a sliding GGG.

If that is the case, GGG may end up having never got the big and defining fights when he was in his peak and so we will never know how good he really was and his place in history will not be high due to poor standard of opposition when unbeaten, then losses once he stepped up (and history will not note that it was a faded version which was losing)

tobyh5 wrote:Big GGG fan and whereas I once liked Canelo, have found myself shifting away from him over the last year / year and a half and my fear is that all that pissing around has worked and they have timed it perfectly and caught a sliding GGG.

If that is the case, GGG may end up having never got the big and defining fights when he was in his peak and so we will never know how good he really was and his place in history will not be high due to poor standard of opposition when unbeaten, then losses once he stepped up (and history will not note that it was a faded version which was losing)

I think that's what Canelo and ODlH think but I still think GGG has canelos number

The big question that needs to be answered is how Canelo responds to not having a big weight and strength advantage over an opponent.
Whilst he may outweigh GGG on fight night - I don't see him having the weight advantage to absorb GGG's punches, and may have his whole game plan annulled.

I think GGG gets the stoppage in 6-8 rnds.

What is certain is GGG had never faced anybody as good as GGG who also is as strong and harder hitting. Its going to be very interesting to see how he takes being hit by GGG.

crusader wrote:I don't think he was taking Brook seriously, and if I recall correctly he pretty much said as much before the fight. To me he looked on cruise control and not really bothered despite Brook having his moments.

I think he had more serious problems with Jacobs's combo of speed, movement, and length (2 of which Canelo doesn't have), though I think he deserved the win. The jab was very effective even against a taller, very quick opponent, and he should've been using it more consistently.

TheLeprechaun wrote:Ggg is so overrated it's unreal.

He's definitely been overrated by some, but how do you think he should be rated? I recall that just before his last fight you suggested that if he had his chin tested and dominated Jacobs, we needed to start considering him as possibly the best MW ever. That's sure a massive one fight turn, especially considering that GGG continued to show a very sturdy chin and still managed to get the win over a top contender.

I think Canelo has what it takes to win a fair decision, but I'll be super impressed and rather surprised if he gets the cakewalk win you're talking about. In your books, would that make him a strong contender for best MW ever?

I was really disappointed with his performance vs Jacob's. He was gunshy and passive and Jacob's controlled him in several rounds. Prime Hopkins is better than jacobs. I think that performance showed ggg is limited and plummeted his rating for me.

This fight will be like Garcia vs Matthyse I recon. Better boxer out maneuvering and out smarting the other.

On the other hand I could see it being like Margarito vs cotto 1. Both examples are inferior in skills I admit.

I just think ggg put in a dismal showing vs jacobs. Without the knockdown I don't give him the fight.

When I visualize the fight I just can't see ggg as the better boxer. He may catch canelo and ko him but I think it's more likely we see canelo outbox him. A higher skilled version of Garcia vs Matthyse. The way ggg gets hit cleanly, I wouldn't be surprised to see canelo clean him out late in the fight but I suspect ggg will go into passive mode and not do enough.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:What is certain is GGG had never faced anybody as good as GGG who also is as strong and harder hitting. Its going to be very interesting to see how he takes being hit by GGG.

Not to mention GGG.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:What is certain is GGG had never faced anybody as good as GGG who also is as strong and harder hitting. Its going to be very interesting to see how he takes being hit by GGG.

Not to mention GGG.

Hahaha...indeed.

I think in the end GGG is in for a tough night against GGG.

i think canelo will counter him, frustrate ggg , and use the Daniel Jacobs gameplan , beat him on points ,he can do it

Jacobs's gameplan was movement heavy. Canelo doesnt have the length or foot speed to make it nearly as difficult for GGG to find him; it's fair to call him a short plodder.

Ossyrules wrote:Canelo doesn't have the style or tools to win this one

He has flashy moments and points wise will be in the fight but by 10 he'll be dismantled and on his bike

I feel the same way. I think Golovkin is the much bigger puncher and Alvarez will have to constantly be moving, but Golovkin is great at cutting off the ring. I was really surprised when Alvarez's team made this fight. Kudos to him for taking it, but I think it's a bad decision.

GGG may be slightly on the wane but he's a huge step up in class for Canelo who hasn't had a proper fight since Lara.

Being the poster boy for daft Mexicans Americans who'll fork out their hard earned bucks for absurdly expensive and absurdly uncompetitive PPV fights might have earned him bucketloads of cash but has it brought him on as a fighter ? Look at his last few fights;

Kirkland' might've been a live opponent but he'd split with his trainer and his camp was apparently awful

Cotto was just too small

Khan ditto

Smith fought bravely but is a British level plodder by Canelo's standards

Chavez was a weight drained ghost out for a big payday.

GGG may have lost a step but his punch power is in a different league to any of the above. Canelo won't be able to bully him and will be wary of what's coming back. Canelo is a fine boxer and for me his best plan is to move away from GGG for 12 rounds engaging him sporadically and landing clusters of fast accurate shots. Trouble is I don't think he has the stamina to do that and so I think GGG catches up with him late on.

Terminator666 wrote:I think Alverez and his team have waited for the right time- I see Alverez winning this on points. He has a good chin and I can't see the judges giving it to GGG no matter what happens- that said, I hope I'm wrong and GGG kos him

Agree with this apart from I'm not really bothered if GGG knocks him out, I just hope for a good fight. Golovkin would have been a solid favourite 1 or 2 years ago and now this is looking more and more like an even money fight as we near the first bell so if the fight makes big money then Alvares and his team seemingly did the right thing from a business perspective

I agree with Spacerod. I see Canelo backpedalling stopping to throw fast combinations then backpedallng again with GGG stalking and landing plenty of jabs. Canelo may well win the first 4 or more rounds until the pressure catches up with him and he takes a beating until a 9th round stoppage.

I think I read Abel Sanchez saying that they don't expect fair scoring so if Golovkin allows the fight to go the distance then they will not complaint about the scorecards.