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Stiverne II , Ruiz, Breazeale or Charles 'I walk this earth like a God' Martin may be the next bad mofos to keep Wilder busy!?

Someone outside the Top 10.

gilgamesh wrote:Someone outside the Top 10.

Mansour or Washington ?

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Someone outside the Top 10.

Mansour or Washington ?

He's already fought Washington, and Mansour can kinda punch a little so he's out. It'll probably be more like Charles Martin or Lucas Browne or Christian Hammer or someone of that ilk.

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Someone outside the Top 10.

Mansour or Washington ?

He's already fought Washington, and Mansour can kinda punch a little so he's out. It'll probably be more like Charles Martin or Lucas Browne or Christian Hammer or someone of that ilk.

He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

I've heard that. I fully expect the talks to go nowhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

gilgamesh wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

I've heard that. I fully expect the talks to go nowhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

It'd be a great fight. If Wilder can get it into the second half of the fight he could win.

If he's going to fight someone ranked by the WBC, then I'm guessing it would probably be Agit Kabayel or an Eric Molina rematch.

gilgamesh wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

I've heard that. I fully expect the talks to go nowhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

Yes.
It got him press coverage and that is as far as I expect it to go. Love to see it but past experience turns me from a natural optimist to a pessimist.
I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Miller, maybe I'm alone in that.

KiwiRider wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

I've heard that. I fully expect the talks to go nowhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

Yes.
It got him press coverage and that is as far as I expect it to go. Love to see it but past experience turns me from a natural optimist to a pessimist.
I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Miller, maybe I'm alone in that.

I'd be down with Jarrell Miller

keithmoonhangover wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

I've heard that. I fully expect the talks to go nowhere. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong.

It'd be a great fight. If Wilder can get it into the second half of the fight he could win.

Povetkin would also have been a great fight, but Wilder usually is the kind of guy who in the end, fights a bum (and still struggles!).

Damn, even Miller would be a decent opponent for Wilder.

keithmoonhangover wrote:He's in talks with Luis Ortiz .

which in itself is the most courageous
things mr heavy weight champion ever
did.

Tony Bellew: WBC Champion Emeritus.

You heard it here first folks!

Syntax Error wrote:Tony Bellew: WBC Champion Emeritus.

You heard it hear first folks!

No way!
If you said Parker after Huey Fury I might believe you...

Edit: the winner of Parker Vs Fury.

apollo creed wrote:Name the next bum that Wilder 'the bum beater' will fight next ?

Stiverne II , Ruiz, Breazeale or Charles 'I walk this earth like a God' Martin may be the next bad mofos to keep Wilder busy!?

Bermane Stiverne has supposedly agreed to step-aside to allow Deontay Wilder to face Luis Ortiz (with the Cuban rated 5th by The Ring and 3rd by ESPN) with the proposed bout taking place on the 4th November at the Brooklyn’s Barclays Centre, which will be televised by Showtime.

Apparently Stiverne has verbally confirmed his concession to step-aside (during a telephone interview) and has also agreed to appear on the undercard of the Wilder-Ortiz fight card, possibly to face Dominic Breazeale.

The fighter that emerges victorious from the Wilder-Ortiz WBC world title contest will be contractually bound to face Bermane Stiverne in their very next outing, assuming the Haitian doesn’t taste defeat in the meantime.

This news was announced by ESPN’s Dan Rafael.

Assuming the Wilder-Ortiz bout comes to fruition, it would allow Anthony Joshua to retain ownership of both the IBF and WBA world titles. Unfortunately though, the Brit will have to wait for his chance to add the WBC strap to his collection (despite the eagerness of Mauricio Sulaiman for the Matchroom fighter to challenge for his organisation's title), because Stiverne is already ahead of AJ in the queue to compete for that belt.

I eagerly await some sort of angry, aggressive and insulting retort from someone that is upset that I’ve made a total mockery of their hateful thread.

The one thing that disappoints me about this forum, is the amount of people that prematurely express their hatred of numerous fighters, without being in possession of any facts whatsoever… yet the very same individuals also have the sheer audacity to boldly proclaim themselves as possessing "expert" knowledge of our beloved sport? FFS!

WOW! EO almost having a breakdown due to some regular people who express their opinions on a public forum.

Wilder won't get AJ if he continues to fight bums! Ortiz or Parker/H.F winner should be on Wilder's radar next!

Wilder's first choice for his next fight is Joshua or Ortiz. If either of those don't happen next, blame one of those guys, because the ball in their court.
Joshua has no more legal obligation to fight Pulev than he does Ortiz. One or the other may strip him, but doubt both do if he chooses to fight Wilder for unification. Wilder is wiling to step up. Lets see if Ortiz or Joshua is. Rest assured though if either doesn't happen, idiots will blame Wilder. EO had a good point about using facts to support your argument.

As far as the winner of Parker vs Fury, I hope it is Parker, because Fury already ducked a chance to fight Wilder. He wanted 8 full weeks to train instead of seven weeks he would have had.

Badhusker wrote:Joshua has no more legal obligation to fight Pulev than he does Ortiz. One or the other may strip him, but doubt both do if he chooses to fight Wilder for unification. Wilder is wiling to step up. Lets see if Ortiz or Joshua is.

Why on earth would AJ risk being stripped of his IBF/WBA belts by refusing to fight his mandatories? Many on here would accuse him of ducking Pulev for a start!
The Joshua-Wilder unification match would be a bigger event next autumn with all 3 belts on the line, assuming Wilder beats Ortiz and Stiverne in the meantime of course.

Badhusker wrote:Wilder's first choice for his next fight is Joshua or Ortiz. If either of those don't happen next, blame one of those guys, because the ball in their court.
Joshua has no more legal obligation to fight Pulev than he does Ortiz. One or the other may strip him, but doubt both do if he chooses to fight Wilder for unification. Wilder is wiling to step up. Lets see if Ortiz or Joshua is. Rest assured though if either doesn't happen, idiots will blame Wilder. EO had a good point about using facts to support your argument.

As far as the winner of Parker vs Fury, I hope it is Parker, because Fury already ducked a chance to fight Wilder. He wanted 8 full weeks to train instead of seven weeks he would have had.

Eddie Hearn has said that if it wasn't the Wlad rematch, the ibf have mandated Joshua to fight pulev

Keep pitching up your wilder bias vs Joshua anti and I'll keep hitting them out

Or maybe give it a rest and get out of Wilders arse. "Wilders willing to step up..." is hilirious considering career so far

apollo creed wrote:WOW! EO almost having a breakdown due to some regular people who express their opinions on a public forum.

Personal opinions that differ from mine in relation to a fact or a real-world event that both parties concede happened, is perfectly fine by me.

A personal opinion that is not only highly derogatory in nature, but is also borne from nothing but pure ignorance, well... that's just unacceptable.

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:WOW! EO almost having a breakdown due to some regular people who express their opinions on a public forum.

Personal opinions that differ from mine in relation to a fact or a real-world event that both parties concede happened, is perfectly fine by me.

A personal opinion that is not only highly derogatory in nature, but is also borne from nothing but pure ignorance, well... that's just unacceptable.

Please !

Enlightened-One wrote: Bermane Stiverne has supposedly agreed to step-aside to allow Deontay Wilder to face Luis Ortiz (with the Cuban rated 5th by The Ring and 3rd by ESPN) with the proposed bout taking place on the 4th November at the Brooklyn’s Barclays Centre, which will be televised by Showtime.

Apparently Stiverne has verbally confirmed his concession to step-aside (during a telephone interview) and has also agreed to appear on the undercard of the Wilder-Ortiz fight card, possibly to face Dominic Breazeale.

The fighter that emerges victorious from the Wilder-Ortiz WBC world title contest will be contractually bound to face Bermane Stiverne in their very next outing, assuming the Haitian doesn’t taste defeat in the meantime.

This news was announced by ESPN’s Dan Rafael.

Assuming the Wilder-Ortiz bout comes to fruition, it would allow Anthony Joshua to retain ownership of both the IBF and WBA world titles. Unfortunately though, the Brit will have to wait for his chance to add the WBC strap to his collection (despite the eagerness of Mauricio Sulaiman for the Matchroom fighter to challenge for his organisation's title), because Stiverne is already ahead of AJ in the queue to compete for that belt.

I trimmed your post to the interesting part EO. No angry retort from me because you have put forward a HW fans wet dream
If that all pans out, I couldn't think of a better path for the division.
Wilder Ortiz is what we want. Whoever wins deserves a shot at AJ after cleaning up the winner of Stiverne and ??
I hope it is Stiverne Breazeale. I can't think of a better guy to put Stiverne to rest than Breazeale. It might get a bit lonely for me at the Dominic Breazeale Fan Club, but there is always room at the bar and the beers are cheap. It is also the level of fight Stiverne deserves. AJ will have to keep busy after Pulev while all this goes on. It seems like the super fight between AJ and the winner of Wilder Ortiz Vs the winner of Stiverne and ??? Will be at least mid to late 2018.
Fingers crossed. This is the most fan friendly solution to the sticky mess that is the currecurrent HW situation.