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GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 12:47
by apollo creed
Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 12:51
by gilgamesh
PPV undercards are never stacked.

The only time I've ever seen an entire Boxing card be solid was when that was what the whole thing was built on. It was a whole card of solid matchups, but not one single BIG Main Event.

I've only ever seen a few PPV's like that. Usually they're always built around The Main Event, and that's the only real major attraction.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 13:54
by jamesmcdonnell
I couldnt give two hoots. Im pleased as punch the fight is happening. Id pay double to watch it if it were the only fight on the card.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 13:55
by jamesmcdonnell
apollo creed wrote:Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:
Where would the money come from to pay them all? Canelo and Ggg will be getting very tidy paydayd.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 14:09
by Oiky
Fights so big I'm not bothered :box:

Looking forward to Billy Joe beating Monroe aswell

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 14:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
Undercards don't add to sales, this undercard is quite solid.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 15:17
by crusader
Don't see what's so poor about the undercard. Not the biggest names, but three very competitively matched prospect/contender bouts:

Randy Caballero (24-0; BoxRec #25) vs Diego De La Hoya (19-0; BoxRec #15)
Joseph Diaz (24-0; BoxRec #9) vs Jorge Lara (29-0-2; BoxRec #16)
Ryan Martin (19-0; BoxRec #50) vs Francisco Rojo (20-2; BoxRec #18)

This is actually better than I expected

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 15:33
by apollo creed
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
apollo creed wrote:Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:
Where would the money come from to pay them all? Canelo and Ggg will be getting very tidy paydayd.
EO :bow: :bow: THANK YOU for sharing your wisdom in my poor thread! I won't even read the other opinions! :salut: :clap: :TU: :OhYes:

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 17:31
by Jip
apollo creed wrote:Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:
For a moment i thought you meant the undercard you listed and was irritated...

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 18:07
by BAD INTENTIONS
The total purse for many big title fights is less than 1M.
I always thought that a Floyd, DLH, or Manny payday (20M+)
should have like a 1M "donation" to a solid undercard matchup.

Meaning, I think there should be a Jones Jr./Hopkins (160) or Garcia/Mattysse fight
as "co-main event" on every big card. The money is there, and it's not even a big amount,
but it would make a HUGE difference in the quality of the sport's PPV offerings.

What would the total purse of Cuadras/Inoe be?
A fight like that is chump change to GGG/Canelo's purse,
but it would the PPV a virtual must buy for most boxing fans.

But greed, capitalism, entitlement, blah, blah, blah ...

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 22:49
by jujigatame
I'm with Mr. Creed. I won't be buying the PPV. I refuse to spend $80 on 1 fight. I bought GGG/Jacobs because it had a great main event and a great undercard, and I'm not settling for less.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 23:25
by Lackeos
I think it's pretty solid. The three runners up to the main event feature 5 undefeated fighters, and the boxrec star system has them as 2x 4-star fights and a 3-star fight. That's pretty solid.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 23:45
by jujigatame
They're not bad fights, they're just the type of fights I could watch just about any weekend on free TV. They don't add much value at all.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 23:49
by SaadOffTheDeck
jujigatame wrote:They're not bad fights, they're just the type of fights I could watch just about any weekend on free TV. They don't add much value at all.
It's rare that they do add value. Hell, it's rare they are this good.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 23:57
by jujigatame
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jujigatame wrote:They're not bad fights, they're just the type of fights I could watch just about any weekend on free TV. They don't add much value at all.
It's rare that they do add value. Hell, it's rare they are this good.
I know, which is why I rarely buy boxing PPVs. I've bought maybe 3 in the last 5 years.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 06 Sep 2017, 00:00
by SaadOffTheDeck
jujigatame wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
jujigatame wrote:They're not bad fights, they're just the type of fights I could watch just about any weekend on free TV. They don't add much value at all.
It's rare that they do add value. Hell, it's rare they are this good.
I know, which is why I rarely buy boxing PPVs. I've bought maybe 3 in the last 5 years.
I don't blame you, streams were so much better and reliable a decade ago that I never bought any. I get suckered into at least 60% of the Boxing and I buy almost all of the UFC events(though not as many this year).

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 06 Sep 2017, 04:17
by apollo creed
Jip wrote:
apollo creed wrote:Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:
For a moment i thought you meant the undercard you listed and was irritated...
:D That kind of undercard would deserve to be next to Canelo-GGG super fight. :TU:

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 06 Sep 2017, 04:22
by apollo creed
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:The total purse for many big title fights is less than 1M.
I always thought that a Floyd, DLH, or Manny payday (20M+)
should have like a 1M "donation" to a solid undercard matchup.

Meaning, I think there should be a Jones Jr./Hopkins (160) or Garcia/Mattysse fight
as "co-main event" on every big card. The money is there, and it's not even a big amount,
but it would make a HUGE difference in the quality of the sport's PPV offerings.

What would the total purse of Cuadras/Inoe be?
A fight like that is chump change to GGG/Canelo's purse,
but it would the PPV a virtual must buy for most boxing fans.

But greed, capitalism, entitlement, blah, blah, blah ...
Yup. :TU:

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 06 Sep 2017, 06:04
by caldo2025
crusader wrote:Don't see what's so poor about the undercard. Not the biggest names, but three very competitively matched prospect/contender bouts:

Randy Caballero (24-0; BoxRec #25) vs Diego De La Hoya (19-0; BoxRec #15)
Joseph Diaz (24-0; BoxRec #9) vs Jorge Lara (29-0-2; BoxRec #16)
Ryan Martin (19-0; BoxRec #50) vs Francisco Rojo (20-2; BoxRec #18)

This is actually better than I expected
Right? How can anyone have a problem with these undercard fights? Golden Boy has been doing this lately and I love it. I'm usually happy with one undercard fight that could go either way. We have 4 fights on the card that could go either way though I don't know much about these boxers i must admit. I know Diaz and De La Hoya but not much about the others. Pumped.

Re: GGG vs Canelo undercard is very poor for such a big fight!

Posted: 06 Sep 2017, 06:53
by Jip
apollo creed wrote:
Jip wrote:
apollo creed wrote:Yeah it's %hit, garbage, a spit in the face.

For such a big fight the undercard should've been stacked with good fights like:

BJS vs Monroe Jr
Wisaksil Wangek vs Roman Gonzalez II
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras
Naoya Inoue vs Antonio Nieves

:box:
For a moment i thought you meant the undercard you listed and was irritated...
:D That kind of undercard would deserve to be next to Canelo-GGG super fight. :TU:
:TU: