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I know you guys all think that only old school or old old school boxer can be atg or #1 ever in a division and boxer from 2000 till now are nothing more than good.

Take for one time your nostalgia glasses off and tell me 1 cruiserweight who had the total package of phenomenal footwork, punxh variation, control, balance, power & speed like Usyk has. You wont find nobody. Spinks and Moorer looked limited compared to this guy. Evander tremendous footwork himself but not as good as usyks. Also when talking about variety of punches, ring iq usyk just better.

Jip wrote:I know you guys all think that only old school or old old school boxer can be atg or #1 ever in a division and boxer from 2000 till now are nothing more than good.

Take for one time your nostalgia glasses off and tell me 1 cruiserweight who had the total package of phenomenal footwork, punxh variation, control, balance, power & speed like Usyk has. You wont find nobody. Spinks and Moorer looked limited compared to this guy. Evander tremendous footwork himself but not as good as usyks. Also when talking about variety of punches, ring iq usyk just better.

As I said in the another post, Holyfield is #1, Usyk is #2..........

Im sure this will trigger a new wave of 'balancing it out' haters....

No, he is not.

Maybe so. I knew he was something special when I saw his first fights, same as the great K brothers, GGG, the tragic Edwin Valero...who was "fosterized" in his Venezuelan jail cell...

..excellent start and the long way to go..

x2x wrote:Maybe so. I knew he was something special when I saw his first fights, same as the great K brothers, GGG, the tragic Edwin Valero...who was "fosterized" in his jail cell...

Valero was crap, a KO waiting to happen.

We don't even know if he is the best current cruiser.

If he wins the tournament, lets say by adding wins over Breidis and Gassiev, I think he's got a very strong claim to #2, which a lot of people seem to give to Haye right now.

ValMar wrote:

Jip wrote:I know you guys all think that only old school or old old school boxer can be atg or #1 ever in a division and boxer from 2000 till now are nothing more than good.

Take for one time your nostalgia glasses off and tell me 1 cruiserweight who had the total package of phenomenal footwork, punxh variation, control, balance, power & speed like Usyk has. You wont find nobody. Spinks and Moorer looked limited compared to this guy. Evander tremendous footwork himself but not as good as usyks. Also when talking about variety of punches, ring iq usyk just better.

As I said in the another post, Holyfield is #1, Usyk is #2..........

I am watching holyfield/qawi to compare. Holyfield looks slow & slugish next to usyk.

Usyk 1

Holyfield had it all at CW

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

x2x wrote:Maybe so. I knew he was something special when I saw his first fights, same as the great K brothers, GGG, the tragic Edwin Valero...who was "fosterized" in his jail cell...

Valero was crap, a KO waiting to happen.

What I like best about you is that you are consistent. Every single post you make is stupid.

Usyk isn't #1 CW all-time right now, but if he wins this tournament, easily beats Briedis and Gassiev then he has a good claim to at least think about it and compare him with Holyfield. personally I already rank Usyk higher than Haye.

crusader wrote:If he wins the tournament, lets say by adding wins over Breidis and Gassiev, I think he's got a very strong claim to #2, which a lot of people seem to give to Haye right now.

Nevermind. Usyk is facing the Briedis/Perez winner next. Nice!

Jip wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Jip wrote:I know you guys all think that only old school or old old school boxer can be atg or #1 ever in a division and boxer from 2000 till now are nothing more than good.

Take for one time your nostalgia glasses off and tell me 1 cruiserweight who had the total package of phenomenal footwork, punxh variation, control, balance, power & speed like Usyk has. You wont find nobody. Spinks and Moorer looked limited compared to this guy. Evander tremendous footwork himself but not as good as usyks. Also when talking about variety of punches, ring iq usyk just better.

As I said in the another post, Holyfield is #1, Usyk is #2..........

I am watching holyfield/qawi to compare. Holyfield looks slow & slugish next to usyk.

Usyk 1

Blodhemn wrote:

crusader wrote:If he wins the tournament, lets say by adding wins over Breidis and Gassiev, I think he's got a very strong claim to #2, which a lot of people seem to give to Haye right now.

I think the way it's setup, Usyk will face Dorticos/Kudryashov. Briedis/Gassiev are set to collide.

it's not - Usyk meets Briedis/Perez and Gassiev/Wlodarczyk meet Dorticos/Kudryashov but I agree logically it should be as you said

dagilechia wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:

crusader wrote:If he wins the tournament, lets say by adding wins over Breidis and Gassiev, I think he's got a very strong claim to #2, which a lot of people seem to give to Haye right now.

I think the way it's setup, Usyk will face Dorticos/Kudryashov. Briedis/Gassiev are set to collide.

it's not - Usyk meets Briedis/Perez and Gassiev/Wlodarczyk meet Dorticos/Kudryashov but I agree logically it should be as you said

It's crazy how they set it up.

Holyfield is the best by far. Usyk lacks power.

dagilechia wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:

crusader wrote:If he wins the tournament, lets say by adding wins over Breidis and Gassiev, I think he's got a very strong claim to #2, which a lot of people seem to give to Haye right now.

I think the way it's setup, Usyk will face Dorticos/Kudryashov. Briedis/Gassiev are set to collide.

it's not - Usyk meets Briedis/Perez and Gassiev/Wlodarczyk meet Dorticos/Kudryashov but I agree logically it should be as you said

Lol yeah, I just checked. But I prefer it this way, although not set to logic. The winner will have the best resume as possible.

mustlogin wrote:Holyfield is the best by far. Usyk lacks power.

Cw version of eh doesnt havs much more power than u

Blodhemn wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

Blodhemn wrote: I think the way it's setup, Usyk will face Dorticos/Kudryashov. Briedis/Gassiev are set to collide.

it's not - Usyk meets Briedis/Perez and Gassiev/Wlodarczyk meet Dorticos/Kudryashov but I agree logically it should be as you said

Lol yeah, I just checked. But I prefer it this way, although not set to logic. The winner will have the best resume as possible.

I was not thinking about it in that way, it makes sense

Is Holyfield the clearest #1 of all time in any division in boxing? He's got to be up there.

Jip wrote:

mustlogin wrote:Holyfield is the best by far. Usyk lacks power.

Cw version of eh doesnt havs much more power than u

Yes he does.

Tanzio wrote:We don't even know if he is the best current cruiser.

Thanks for bringing this nutty thread back down to earth. The guy is 13-0 at age 30. We dont even know if he spent too much time in the amateurs. Lots of folks were saying the same thing about another Olympic Gold Medalist named Vasily Jirov and we saw how that turned out.

#1 is over the top, but Usyk already has stronger wins and has shown better boxing skills than Jirov. The same can probably also be said if we're comparing him to JC Gomez and other established cruiser names.