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1. Lomachenko
2. Rigondeaux
3. Inoue
4. GGG
5. Spence
6. Crawford
7. Canelo
8. Uysk
9. Thurman
10. Gvozdyk


This is regardless of record who are truly feel are the 10 best boxer on the planet

Crawford
Spence
GGG
Ward
Gonzalez
Lomachenko
Kovalev
Canelo
Inoue
Jack

1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. Golovkin
4. Lomachenko
5. Canelo
6. Rigondeaux
7. Gonzalez
8. Kovalev
9. Inoue
10. M. Garcia

Haven't watched the Usyk fight yet and with arguably six or more candidates fighting soon (Gonzalez, Rungvisai, Inoue, GGG, Canelo, maybe Estrada) it feels like the right time to pause on doing an updated list 'til after next weekend.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Crawford
Spence
GGG
Ward
Gonzalez
Lomachenko
Kovalev
Canelo
Inoue
Jack

Gonzalez - no more
Jack ??

I know that you like Usyk, where is his place on this list ?

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Crawford
Spence
GGG
Ward
Gonzalez
Lomachenko
Kovalev
Canelo
Inoue
Jack

Gonzalez - no more
Jack ??

I know that you like Usyk, where is his place on this list ?

Without Joshua ??

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Crawford
Spence
GGG
Ward
Gonzalez
Lomachenko
Kovalev
Canelo
Inoue
Jack

Gonzalez - no more
Jack ??

I know that you like Usyk, where is his place on this list ?

He's not on it, I forgot Garcia though.

SOGgy
Hitman Jr
3G
Krushedner
Lomassiah
Once Upon A Time
GingerHead
Mikey
Spence
Usyk

As of today

1. Andre Ward
2. Terence Crawford
3. Vasyl Lomachenko
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
6. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
7. Mikey Garcia
8. Oleksandr Usyk
9. Naoya Inoue
10. Guillermo Rigondeaux

Honestly, I can not understand your lists, without any HWs......

ValMar wrote:Honestly, I can not understand your lists, without any HWs......

When you look at the Heavyweight Top 10 most of those guys don't even fight each other. That's why none of them are Pound for Pound. If the best guys in the division would consistently fight and beat the best guys in the division they'd beat Pound for Pound. None of 'em do that.

Wilder hasn't fought anyone in the Top 10 other than Stiverne.

Anthony Joshua hasn't fought anyone in the Top 10 other than Dillian Whyte, and a now retired Wladimir Klitschko (Whyte's place in the Top 10 at Heavyweight is debatable)

The division is shallow, and they're still swimming around in the kiddie pool anyway instead of jumping into the deep end which would still only be about 4 feet of water.

None of them are the least bit worthy of P4P status right now. Not even close.

There are a whole bunch of dudes knocking on the top ten door who an argument could be made for:

Inoue
Rungvisai
Rigo
Jack
AJ
Briedis
Ramirez
Jermall
DeGale
etc.

There hasn't been a p4p top 10 heavyweight since Lewis.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:There hasn't been a p4p top 10 heavyweight since Lewis.

Is the correct answer.

Jip wrote:1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Canelo
5. Spence
6. Usyk
7. Thurman
8. Rigondeaux
9. Inoue
10. Wangek

I'll update.

The top 3 look good. Spence, Inoue and possibly Thurman are about right. The rest should be moved way down.

1.Crawford
2.Lomachenko
3.Joshua
4.Golovkin
5.Alvarez
6.Usyk
7.Wisaksil
8.Mikey
9.Thurman
10.Inoue/Santa Cruz

I do not rank neither Ward or Kovalev

boxing_rocks wrote:

Jip wrote:1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Canelo
5. Spence
6. Usyk
7. Thurman
8. Rigondeaux
9. Inoue
10. Wangek

I'll update.

The top 3 look good. Spence, Inoue and possibly Thurman are about right. The rest should be moved way down.

Canelo has a very good record compared to most top10 boxer. Has lots of fights, lots of big name opponents on it.

Wangek beat 2 times the 'year ago p4p#1, why should he be lower than 10, some have him top 5 p4p.

dagilechia wrote:1.Crawford
2.Lomachenko
3.Joshua
4.Golovkin
5.Alvarez
6.Usyk
7.Wisaksil
8.Mikey
9.Thurman
10.Inoue/Santa Cruz

I do not rank neither Ward or Kovalev

Correct statemant. Kovalev looked past prime, with average stamina, always gassing mid fight. He aint no top 10 material anymore. He even not a top 2 lh. I would favour gvozdyk and bertebiev over him. They the next lh p4p boxer.

I watched ward against barrera and both kovalev fights and thought he lost all 3. I also have a hard time rating a boxer inside the elite 10 when he needs illegal advantages like excessive clinching, low blows, head buts and hometown refferys who let you get away, never deducting points.

Jip wrote:

dagilechia wrote:1.Crawford
2.Lomachenko
3.Joshua
4.Golovkin
5.Alvarez
6.Usyk
7.Wisaksil
8.Mikey
9.Thurman
10.Inoue/Santa Cruz

I do not rank neither Ward or Kovalev

Correct statemant. Kovalev looked past prime, with average stamina, always gassing mid fight. He aint no top 10 material anymore. He even not a top 2 lh. I would favour gvozdyk and bertebiev over him. They the next lh p4p boxer.

I watched ward against barrera and both kovalev fights and thought he lost all 3. I also have a hard time rating a boxer inside the elite 10 when he needs illegal advantages like excessive clinching, low blows, head buts and hometown refferys who let you get away, never deducting points.

That's exactly what I think. Kovalev is past-prime and with such stamina issue no way he should be p4p top 10. Ward, I'm so disgusted of the way he fights, so disgusted of both Kovalev 1&2 fights outcomes that I prefer if he retires or moves to HW to fight Joshua

I'm not a lover of Andre Ward.
I didn't think the Kovalev fights decided no1 (as some did) and think the outcome of both fights were dubious.

He does not occupy my top slot and i feel I am being critical of him sitting him somewhere between 3 and 5.

But if you can't find a slot for him in your top 10, let alone a space on the honourable mentions list, like the OP has, you're just a flat-out hater. Simple! (Well that or you can't judge a good fighter for shit...)

davie wrote:I'm not a lover of Andre Ward.
I didn't think the Kovalev fights decided no1 (as some did) and think the outcome of both fights were dubious.

He does not occupy my top slot and i feel I am being critical of him sitting him somewhere between 3 and 5.

But if you can't find a slot for him in your top 10, let alone a space on the honourable mentions list, like the OP has, you're just a flat-out hater. Simple! (Well that or you can't judge a good fighter for poo...)

You right davie, i am a hater, i realy dislike his boxing style and arrogant atitude outside the ring. Realy cant stand him.

Crawford
Golovkin
Lomachenko
Alvarez
Joshua
Thurman
Usyk
Rigondeaux
M.Garcia
Charlo

Jip wrote:

dagilechia wrote:1.Crawford
2.Lomachenko
3.Joshua
4.Golovkin
5.Alvarez
6.Usyk
7.Wisaksil
8.Mikey
9.Thurman
10.Inoue/Santa Cruz

I do not rank neither Ward or Kovalev

Correct statemant. Kovalev looked past prime, with average stamina, always gassing mid fight. He aint no top 10 material anymore. He even not a top 2 lh. I would favour gvozdyk and bertebiev over him. They the next lh p4p boxer.

I watched ward against barrera and both kovalev fights and thought he lost all 3. I also have a hard time rating a boxer inside the elite 10 when he needs illegal advantages like excessive clinching, low blows, head buts and hometown refferys who let you get away, never deducting points.

How in he'll can you think he lost against Barrera?
You are grasping on that one

Jip wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Jip wrote:1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. GGG
4. Canelo
5. Spence
6. Usyk
7. Thurman
8. Rigondeaux
9. Inoue
10. Wangek

I'll update.

The top 3 look good. Spence, Inoue and possibly Thurman are about right. The rest should be moved way down.

Canelo has a very good record compared to most top10 boxer. Has lots of fights, lots of big name opponents on it.

Wangek beat 2 times the 'year ago p4p#1, why should he be lower than 10, some have him top 5 p4p.

Canelo has a good resume on paper. Two of his wins are tainted, and there is a lot of shot or drained opponents.
Wangek lost his first fight against Roman, and even if he didn't, we would still need to see him against somebody good of his own size before putting him in top 10 p4p.

He kod Roman, enough to enter p4p 10