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The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 06:58
by caldo2025
All of those articles and discussions on whether GGG could get a fair fight in Vegas should heat up after the announcement of judges and official referee for Saturday Night. It's the same cast of crookedness that stacked the odds and probability against any challenger to Floyd's undefeated record for many years. Dave Moretti and Adailade Byrd will be 2 of the 3 ringside judges and old friend Kenny Bayless will officiate inside the ring.
It's the same formula that Floyd perfected on his way to controlling Vegas. If you have 2 out of the 3 judges in your pocket, it doesn't matter who that 3rd judge is...you can't lose. For good measure, secure the ref in the fight and pay him too so you can have some control over the action inside the ring.
I will guarantee that no matter what happens in this fight Saturday, if it goes to the cards, there's no way Moretti or Byrd have the score for GGG. No matter if there are knockdowns...mark my words. The fix is in and GGG should open his eyes as it's knockout or bust in this fight.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 08:31
by apollo creed
GGG would have to literally KTFO Canelo to get a SD.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 08:36
by SaadOffTheDeck
Floyd didn't need protection, hell, one of the worst cards a judge has given in ages was the draw for canelo when he lost every round against Floyd. GGG knows what he's in for.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 08:55
by IKSRTFO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd didn't need protection, hell, one of the worst cards a judge has given in ages was the draw for canelo when he lost every round against Floyd. GGG knows what he's in for.
He needed protection definitely in the Castillo fight and while he comfortably beat Judah, he didn't win 11 of 12 rounds and he didn't win 9 rounds in the first Maidana fight. But on the flip side, Guerrero didn't win 3 rounds and De La Hoya didn't win 7 rounds.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 09:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
IKSRTFO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd didn't need protection, hell, one of the worst cards a judge has given in ages was the draw for canelo when he lost every round against Floyd. GGG knows what he's in for.
He needed protection definitely in the Castillo fight and while he comfortably beat Judah, he didn't win 11 of 12 rounds and he didn't win 9 rounds in the first Maidana fight. But on the flip side, Guerrero didn't win 3 rounds and De La Hoya didn't win 7 rounds.
Castillo was long before he was a mega star. He immediately rematched him and won comfortably. That's all you have to cling to. Sucks jlc didn't get the nod, he'd likely make the hof if he had.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 09:28
by IKSRTFO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:IKSRTFO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd didn't need protection, hell, one of the worst cards a judge has given in ages was the draw for canelo when he lost every round against Floyd. GGG knows what he's in for.
He needed protection definitely in the Castillo fight and while he comfortably beat Judah, he didn't win 11 of 12 rounds and he didn't win 9 rounds in the first Maidana fight. But on the flip side, Guerrero didn't win 3 rounds and De La Hoya didn't win 7 rounds.
Castillo was long before he was a mega star. He immediately rematched him and won comfortably. That's all you have to cling to. Sucks jlc didn't get the nod, he'd likely make the hof if he had.
Wasn't a mega star but he was a bigger star than Castillo and that's what mattered.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 09:35
by Enlightened-One
Team GGG can always lodge an official complaint to the boxing commission about the judges’ that have been appointed for this fight, especially if they’re fearful of the contest being scored unfairly in favour of Canelo, but they haven’t, because there are no grounds to do so.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 09:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
IKSRTFO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:IKSRTFO wrote:
He needed protection definitely in the Castillo fight and while he comfortably beat Judah, he didn't win 11 of 12 rounds and he didn't win 9 rounds in the first Maidana fight. But on the flip side, Guerrero didn't win 3 rounds and De La Hoya didn't win 7 rounds.
Castillo was long before he was a mega star. He immediately rematched him and won comfortably. That's all you have to cling to. Sucks jlc didn't get the nod, he'd likely make the hof if he had.
Wasn't a mega star but he was a bigger star than Castillo and that's what mattered.
Lol
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 09:50
by Nightmare Roy
GGG has said this fight won't go the distance, he's 100% aware what is in play. Big drama show!
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 10:34
by boxing_rocks
Sanchez said that if they are robbed, it would be their fault. They know what they are up against, so Golovkin will not coast to a narrow decision victory.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 10:44
by lefty
Going off some of these threads; if this fight goes to points, some are gonna be claiming GGG was robbed, even if Canelo legitimately deserves the win.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 12:00
by boxing_rocks
lefty wrote:Going off some of these threads; if this fight goes to points, some are gonna be claiming GGG was robbed, even if Canelo legitimately deserves the win.
Like he deserved 118-109 card against Trout, 117-111 against Lara and 114-114 against Mayweather ?
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 12:43
by Thomastearns
Nobody is that good that they can go into a boxing ring expecting to knock out Saul Alvarez with no Plan B.
You go in there attempting to win on points and punish big mistakes via big shots which could lead to a knockout or a stoppage.
The referee and judges should not be adding to the degree of difficulty any boxer faces in the ring. Unfortunately some fights are won and lost before either boxer enters the ring. Money changes everything, more so in boxing.
I don't expect Canelo to engage in a Hagler v Hearns war with GGG this Saturday night. He will probably be planning to survive 12 rounds and then get the nod Mayweather style with a friendly referee and 2 judges behind him.
The big question is whether Canelo is skillful enough to do that or is he going to get sacrificed spectacularly by a Golovkin whose been playing possum recently.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 13:13
by jamesmcdonnell
As this draws closer im starting to think GGG is going to smash canelo up. Canelo has never fought anyone of that level who he didnt have serious physical advantages over. Chavez jr was just a walking punchbag who came for the payday and canelos shots had no effect despite being hit with impugnity round after round.
Canelo is in for a rude awakening when he starts getting hit.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 13:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
The best thing for canelo is his opponent is an aggressive come forward puncher. That is his favourite style to face. The worst thing for canelo is GGG is the one doing it.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 13:51
by Jip
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Floyd didn't need protection, hell, one of the worst cards a judge has given in ages was the draw for canelo when he lost every round against Floyd. GGG knows what he's in for.
Floyd needed kenny bayless.
He needed a reffery who protect him from a hard hitting dangerous brawler who is in advantage when he is close to his opponent. Fighting close to your opponent is NOT illegal, therefore there was not need for bayless to scream BREAK as soon as maidana was walking to floyds direction.
The canelo fight was a joke. Floyd won every round. The judges were $€£
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 13:53
by Jip
caldo2025 wrote:All of those articles and discussions on whether GGG could get a fair fight in Vegas should heat up after the announcement of judges and official referee for Saturday Night. It's the same cast of crookedness that stacked the odds and probability against any challenger to Floyd's undefeated record for many years. Dave Moretti and Adailade Byrd will be 2 of the 3 ringside judges and old friend Kenny Bayless will officiate inside the ring.
It's the same formula that Floyd perfected on his way to controlling Vegas. If you have 2 out of the 3 judges in your pocket, it doesn't matter who that 3rd judge is...you can't lose. For good measure, secure the ref in the fight and pay him too so you can have some control over the action inside the ring.
I will guarantee that no matter what happens in this fight Saturday, if it goes to the cards, there's no way Moretti or Byrd have the score for GGG. No matter if there are knockdowns...mark my words. The fix is in and GGG should open his eyes as it's knockout or bust in this fight.
Good post. Fully aggree. Dont worry GGG will make it to obvious. Canelo has no chance even with his corrupt judges and corrupt kenny bayless.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 14:21
by lefty
boxing_rocks wrote:lefty wrote:Going off some of these threads; if this fight goes to points, some are gonna be claiming GGG was robbed,
even if Canelo legitimately deserves the win.
Like he deserved 118-109 card against Trout, 117-111 against Lara and 114-114 against Mayweather ?
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 14:23
by crusader
I'm sure there will people who cry robbery if it's a super close fight that doesn't go their guy's way, but I think it's fair to raise the possibility of GGG being hard done by against the bigger draw who has had some mind boggling cards in his favour, and gotten pretty much every benefit of the doubt even when the cards haven't been so outlandish. Personally, I think Canelo will win by son of judges, but part of that prediction is that he doesn't deserve the victory; if he does deserve it, he gets my credit.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 14:39
by Tanzio
How about we all score the fight and determine for ourselves who won? When I suggest that we score the fight, that does not mean between shots of tequila, and drags off a bong while your choice of hallucinogen kicks in. It does not mean gifting the fight to who you would like to have win based on a KD early in the fight. It does not mean flying with the flock who consider scoring a fight paying some attention to the entire contest (more or less).
It means paying close attention to the entirety of the fight. Watching every moment and scoring every round as a battle worth 1/12th of the entire war. It means drawing your own conclusions based on what you saw and having the wherewithal to defend your position against all comers, including the majority opinion, if necessary.
FMJ did not win every round v GingerHead.
Pac v Ramming Speed I and Krushedner v SOGgy I were very close fights, that could have gone either way, that the judges got right, imo. Pac v Horn was also left too close by Pac, although I felt that he won.
None of those three fights were robberies.
While it is impossible to do comprehensively, try to be as objective as possible, no matter how much you hate or love one or the other fighter. There are injustices in boxing but nowhere near as many as so many people have convinced themselves of through organic or ingested fantasy.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 14:42
by crusader
I think Mayweather won 10-12 rounds against Canelo...can't see how there was any round that Canelo clearly deserved.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 14:48
by Tanzio
crusader wrote:I think Mayweather won 10-12 rounds against Canelo...can't see how Canelo clearly deserved any round in that.
He deserved the rounds that FMJ gifted him when the fight was a foregone conclusion. Doesn't mean that it was close. Probably could have been a whitewash. FMJ chose to cruise to victory, like normal.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 15:06
by gilgamesh
I wouldn't go so far as to say "The Fix" is in, but I'd certainly say the old cliche "The deck is stacked" would be appropriate.
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 15:09
by Counter-puncher
GGG better not be taking a knee from any low blows....
Re: The "Fix" Is In- Bayless-Moretti-Byrd working THE FIGHT Saturday.
Posted: 12 Sep 2017, 15:10
by SaadOffTheDeck
Counter-puncher wrote:GGG better not be taking a knee from any low blows....