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I want to bet money on GGG by KO but I wonder if Canelo was ever stunned? of course he never met a puncher like Golovkin but I can not recall myself any moment of him being rocked.

He was rocked by Jose Miguel Cotto in 2010...that's all that I know of.

dagilechia wrote:I want to bet money on GGG by KO but I wonder if Canelo was ever stunned? of course he never met a puncher like Golovkin but I can not recall myself any moment of him being rocked.

Welcome to boxing. We need new ignorant fans so the rest of us look so much smarter.

Personally, I think a KO here is a pretty risky bet. By all accounts, Canelo was stunned pretty good in the Cotto (not Miguel) fight, but that was quite awhile ago and he doesn't seem to have been clearly hurt since. No question Golovkin has enormous power, but he does seem to break guys down somewhat with consistent punishment that is a product of his power, but also his accuracy and overall acumen. In my opinion, part of the reason that Canelo seems to have a pretty good beard is that he doesn't take a lot of clean shots. Factor in that GGG would be insane not to proceed with some level of caution given Canelo's own power and obvious counter punching ability. This fight should be tactical, not a war.

Can GGG win by KO? Absolutely, but his opponent has a pretty decent chin, excellent counter punching ability, very good power, and well above average defensive skills. So, I think the question goes a little beyond whether or not Canelo can take a punch, if you ask me.

Nonetheless, the fact that I don't gamble might tell you something about the worth of my insight.

Have fun watching the fight and good luck on the wager.

For me, this is like Kovalev-Ward... Not really a betting fight... I got Ortiz to take out Wilder and Joshua to take out Pulev. And Parker over Fury.

Although this is not a betting fight, I'm going to go with Golovkin... Though all the power of the universe of Boxing are arrayed against him... I think GGG is going to find a way to win... I think his jab will be the story... I don't think he's going to put Canelo away... But he'll try like Hell.

jas80s wrote:Personally, I think a KO here is a pretty risky bet. By all accounts, Canelo was stunned pretty good in the Cotto (not Miguel) fight, but that was quite awhile ago and he doesn't seem to have been clearly hurt since. No question Golovkin has enormous power, but he does seem to break guys down somewhat with consistent punishment that is a product of his power, but also his accuracy and overall acumen. In my opinion, part of the reason that Canelo seems to have a pretty good beard is that he doesn't take a lot of clean shots. Factor in that GGG would be insane not to proceed with some level of caution given Canelo's own power and obvious counter punching ability. This fight should be tactical, not a war.

Can GGG win by KO? Absolutely, but his opponent has a pretty decent chin, excellent counter punching ability, very good power, and well above average defensive skills. So, I think the question goes a little beyond whether or not Canelo can take a punch, if you ask me.

Nonetheless, the fact that I don't gamble might tell you something about the worth of my insight.

Have fun watching the fight and good luck on the wager.

thanks for a nice response, some days ago before I started to rewatch both Golovkin's and Canelo's fights I was pretty sure that sooner or later GGG KO's Canelo (maybe the reason was a hype on GGG and pretty common opinion that Canelo overrated and just too small for Gennady) rewatching these fights make me think it is gonna be a tougher fight for Golovkin than I thought before. Canelo is a good counter-puncher with maybe not exceptional but decent power and there is not such a huge difference in size between them. add to it good overall skills and great chin and also not bad workrate I actually predict that Alvarez will be at least 2nd toughest Golovkin's opponent after Jacobs. I wonder also if there will be significant difference in speed on Alvarez favour which is pretty possible. Canelo does not have a power of Lemieux but he's got a lot of other advantages that make him a very competetive opponent. at the moment it's a 60/40 fight for me on GGG's favour (considering there would be no robbery) with Canelo by KO being by far the least possible outcome of the fight and other outcomes with similar chances of happen. Still, I'm gonna bet on GGG by KO (but a lot less money than wanted to bet before) as he won all but one of his fights since 2009 by a stoppage and the one fight on full distance being against an also very good, hard hitting and bigger, physically stronger fighter in Jacobs and still he had him down once in that fight.

I think canelos hand speed and counter punching ability is exaggerated on boxrec. Canelos a good boxer, but counter punchers I normally think of as much more elusive than he is. Golovkin isn't facing a Mayweather or a ward, who are real slick, pot shot, real speed and timing, make you miss make you pay. Golovkin won't have to work too hard to find canelo, and what Golovkin hits, he breaks down. Canelo is he gets to 10/11/12 is going to go thru a tough time imo

the question is that if Canelo got enough power in his punches to earn Golovkin's respect it is very important for Alvarez to bring power in that counter-punching. If not then Golovkin would obviously try to smash him.

dagilechia wrote:the question is that if Canelo got enough power in his punches to earn Golovkin's respect it is very important for Alvarez to bring power in that counter-punching. If not then Golovkin would obviously try to smash him.

No, he doesn't have enough power. I am pretty sure that Golovkin will still be cautious mainly relying on his jab in the first 3-4 rounds. Good thing is that Canelo is not a runner. Not only his footwork is leagues below Golovkin's, but also he likes to retaliate when getting hit. Trying to retaliate this time will be fatal.