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Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 05:47
by Ruthless-RKO
Tony Bellew says a rematch with David Haye could still be on the cards – but he’s refusing to deal with his old foe.
In a thrilling encounter, Bellew stunned the boxing world with a shock 11th round victory over Haye on March 4 this year.
The Hayemaker ruptured his Achilles in the sixth round but bravely battled on for a further five.
Bellew’s trainer David Coldwell confirmed last week that talks are taking place between the two camps regarding another clash.
Bellew, however, says he can’t be in the same room as the 36-year-old Bermondsey brawler. “There’s still things that are being discussed,” Bellew told Starsport. “I don’t really do the discussions with him because I just think he’s a plant pot.
“I can’t be sitting at a table with him or be anywhere near him. I know people think we get on great because of how we embraced after the last fight, but the embrace was purely because he’d just secured my family’s future. I still think he’s a plonker and I don’t think he’s a nice fella. If it happens, it happens.”
Haye was widely expected to beat Bellew, 34, before the March showpiece.
But his sixth-round injury effectively made victory impossible.
Bellew says he’s keen to face a fully-fit Haye to prove once and for all that he’s the better fighter.
He added: “I want to prove people wrong again, as I still think I’ll be a massive underdog. People will always make the excuse that I only beat him because he had a sore Achilles. His exact words were: ‘I will drill you to the floor within a few rounds.’ Well, David was physically fine for five rounds. The only thing that got drilled was my fist into his mouth.”
Haye was spotted at the GQ awards last week socialising with Anthony Joshua.
The 27-year-old defeated heavyweight legend Wladimir Klitschko in April and will now face Kubrat Pulev on October 28 in Cardiff.
Haye admitted he fancies facing Joshua, but Bellew says he’s dreaming. “He would go to the opening of an envelope. He will go absolutely anywhere," said Bellew who was speaking to celebrate the launch of Papa John's new Deep Crust pizza.
“What’s he doing at the GQ awards? All he’s done is get spanked by me. He just can’t give up the limelight. He’s saying things to get attention, of course he’s having a laugh. I can’t live with the likes of Anthony Joshua. He’s too big, too strong and too good.
“David’s the same height as me with basically the same frame. The only thing is he carries a bit more muscle."
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 05:49
by Ruthless-RKO
He kinda would need to. Bellew looked second best against a near shot Haye. Up until the injury when Haye started dancing around, Bellew was no were near winning the fight.
Also, I believe the Achiles was no excuse. Not once did Haye mention it in the post fight, when we all clearly saw that was the reason as to why he ultimately lost the fight.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 05:51
by stujones
Bellew needs to re-visit his own words post fight. It was a little more than a hug... how many times did Bellew compliment Haye's ability post fight.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 05:59
by Ossyrules
He does need to eliminate the Achilles thing, cos that effectively decided the fight, and Haye was about 4-1 at that point also.
If haye gets injured again and it ruins the fight it's unlucky but tough luck for Haye, Bellew would have to move on.
I don't buy the , I only hugged him cos he secured my families future, that's shite.
Imo haye needs to come in 10-15lb lighter, he was about 228 wasn't he? Get a bit more speed back and of course stay injury free.
Hopefully it gets made
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:13
by tannervegas
Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:14
by TheCobra
Yaaaaawn. These two blokes need each other I guess. If they can sell this again, then anything is possible.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:15
by TheCobra
tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:17
by stujones
Ossyrules wrote:He does need to eliminate the Achilles thing, cos that effectively decided the fight, and Haye was about 4-1 at that point also.
If haye gets injured again and it ruins the fight it's unlucky but tough luck for Haye, Bellew would have to move on.
I don't buy the , I only hugged him cos he secured my families future, that's shite.
Imo haye needs to come in 10-15lb lighter, he was about 228 wasn't he? Get a bit more speed back and of course stay injury free.
Hopefully it gets made
Yes, way too big in his comeback. Have to say though in his last IFL interview he looked a lot less bulky already.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:17
by Ruthless-RKO
TheCobra wrote:tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
His injury was slightly there before the fight even started. That's why he was leaping. He knew one wrong footing, and he's gone, that's exactly what happened. Did you see how long it took him to walk out to the ring?
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:36
by mfc_se15
Ruthless-RKO wrote:TheCobra wrote:tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
His injury was slightly there before the fight even started. That's why he was leaping. He knew one wrong footing, and he's gone, that's exactly what happened. Did you see how long it took him to walk out to the ring?
Hadn't he also flown to Germany to go the doctors a couple of days before? That at the time they said was routine, but presumably was because there was some sort of problem.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:40
by Ruthless-RKO
mfc_se15 wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:TheCobra wrote:
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
His injury was slightly there before the fight even started. That's why he was leaping. He knew one wrong footing, and he's gone, that's exactly what happened. Did you see how long it took him to walk out to the ring?
Hadn't he also flown to Germany to go the doctors a couple of days before? That at the time they said was routine, but presumably was because there was some sort of problem.
Yup. There was a lot of rumours. But Hearn did say, Haye cannot back out, or we wouldn't be able to fight in the UK anytime soon. I think that was to do with him backing off the Fury fights etc. Not some contractual thing
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/2985721/ ... ry-cancel/
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:48
by keirw
TheCobra wrote:tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
Yes, but despite looking terrible he was still beating Bellew clearly, and even after the injury flared up Bellew couldn't seem to hurt him. Even the knockdowns looked more down to the injury than any clean punches Bellew landed.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 06:57
by Stuarty
tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yeah agree mate. His timing was non existent. He was lunging in like a piss head in a kebab shop!
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 07:08
by ILikeBeer
TheCobra wrote:Yaaaaawn. These two blokes need each other I guess. If they can sell this again, then anything is possible.
You're implying selling this would be difficult.
Haye is a well known name, and many will think (rightly or wrongly) that Bellew won because of the injury.
Bellew vs Clev 2 on PPV got more flak for happening, than this would.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 07:08
by Ossyrules
tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
My take
1. Haye is way past it
2. Haye came in too heavy
3. Haye was carrying an injury coming into the fight, which ended up blowing up
All 3 contributed to his bad performance. But he was still winning the fight before round 6
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 07:11
by kbackup408
Ruthless-RKO wrote:He kinda would need to. Bellew looked second best against a near shot Haye. Up until the injury when Haye started dancing around, Bellew was no were near winning the fight.
Also, I believe the Achiles was no excuse. Not once did Haye mention it in the post fight, when we all clearly saw that was the reason as to why he ultimately lost the fight.
I think he didn't use the excuse because of the roasting he received after the toes fiasco against Klit
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 07:31
by calmdown
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
“He would go to the opening of an envelope. He will go absolutely anywhere," said Bellew who was speaking to celebrate the launch of Papa John's new Deep Crust pizza.
Hahahahahaha!

Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 07:53
by Covfefe
keirw wrote:TheCobra wrote:tannervegas wrote:Even before the injury Haye looked awful though. His timing was out and he was overreaching and leaping in with most of his shots.
Yep, he looked dreadful, whatever he had previously looked to be long gone. At top level Haye is absolutely done.
Yes, but despite looking terrible he was still beating Bellew clearly, and even after the injury flared up Bellew couldn't seem to hurt him. Even the knockdowns looked more down to the injury than any clean punches Bellew landed.
I was shocked how much he took without getting particularly buzzed. He wasn't finished when they stopped it either, it was a mercy stopping really due to the injury.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 08:56
by billy nelson
In fairness I had Haye winning the fight until his injury no small injury either so hardly an excuse
The same happened with junior Makubu he damaged his knee which needed surgery, both injuries are obviously of no result of Tony doing anything just misfortune for one and fortunate for the other
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 09:05
by ILikeBeer
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 09:08
by ILikeBeer
I had a Papa Johns once. The pizza was nice, but Papa was a bit stingy with his potato wedges. He must've only sent me about four or five.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 09:08
by mickey1975
calmdown wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:
“He would go to the opening of an envelope. He will go absolutely anywhere," said Bellew who was speaking to celebrate the launch of Papa John's new Deep Crust pizza.
Hahahahahaha!

I actually lol'd at that. Good old boomer.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 09:10
by mickey1975
Boomer has done us all. World champ, beat Clev, beat Haye, became a wealthy man. He should come back to tease us all.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 11:40
by ILikeBeer
mickey1975 wrote:Boomer has done us all. World champ, beat Clev, beat Haye, became a wealthy man. He should come back to tease us all.
Fair play to Bellew, to be fair.
He aint had a bad career, despite the stick he receives.
Re: Bellew Wants To Down Haye Again To Eliminate 'Achilles Excuse'
Posted: 14 Sep 2017, 11:59
by asdfjkl
Get challenged by Briggs, make him an offer he can't accept, he still accepted it anyway, then ducking Briggs anyway and fight a cruiserweight instead, then actually lose that fight as well anyway, then you act like it was only because of his achilles excuse, just like he did before with my toe hurts excuse, then refuse to accept the rematch while saying on the event that he would accept, then don't even accept the same terms as that cruiserweight accepted before and now saying he preferes to fight AJ?!
WTF is this idiot thinking, even the cruiserweight said AJ would be too much for him, let alone the bumfighter.
I think he just should man up and lose another match against this cruiserweight.