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Crawford will move up soon. What is the future of LWW ? Who is expected to be #1 at 140 ? Postol ? Mikey Garcia ? Indongo ? Broner ? Some young guys from SFW or LW ? What do you expect ? Is there a realistic chance for the new undisputed LWW champion ?

If you're talking about is there a realistic chance that somebody gets ALL the belts like Crawford did. No. That sh*t almost never happens in any weight class. Politics and all sorts of BS is in place to keep it from happening, and aside from that. Without Crawford there, most of the 140 pound division frankly isn't very good. You could see titles change hands a lot with the group of contenders that's currently there.

Weak division but actually a lot of seemingly competitive match-ups...him moving up might be a good thing for 147 and 140

crusader wrote:Weak division but actually a lot of seemingly competitive match-ups...him moving up might be a good thing for 147 and 140

Oh it'll DEFINITELY be a good thing for 147. One of the sports deepest divisions gets even deeper with the inclusion of Crawford. It's good thing for the other contenders at 140 that Crawford is leaving. Puts guys like Postol, and Indongo back in the mix where winning titles becomes possible for them again...they were sh*t out of luck as long as Crawford was around holding all the cards.

gilgamesh wrote:If you're talking about is there a realistic chance that somebody gets ALL the belts like Crawford did. No. That sh*t almost never happens in any weight class. Politics and all sorts of BS is in place to keep it from happening, and aside from that. Without Crawford there, most of the 140 pound division frankly isn't very good. You could see titles change hands a lot with the group of contenders that's currently there.

You are probably right, but this is a pretty sad scenario.
What about young American fighters (Davis, first) in a two or three years ?

ValMar wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:If you're talking about is there a realistic chance that somebody gets ALL the belts like Crawford did. No. That sh*t almost never happens in any weight class. Politics and all sorts of BS is in place to keep it from happening, and aside from that. Without Crawford there, most of the 140 pound division frankly isn't very good. You could see titles change hands a lot with the group of contenders that's currently there.

You are probably right, but this is a pretty sad scenario.
What about young American fighters (Davis, first) in a two or three years ?

Gervonta Davis? I don't see him ever being a Titleholder at 140.

ValMar wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:If you're talking about is there a realistic chance that somebody gets ALL the belts like Crawford did. No. That sh*t almost never happens in any weight class. Politics and all sorts of BS is in place to keep it from happening, and aside from that. Without Crawford there, most of the 140 pound division frankly isn't very good. You could see titles change hands a lot with the group of contenders that's currently there.

You are probably right, but this is a pretty sad scenario.
What about young American fighters (Davis, first) in a two or three years ?

Mikey rules the division without Crawford. Davis is the new Broner. Pedraza was his DeMarco.

Josh Taylor will win one of the belts at least. Think there's some good second rate guys like Postol, Indongo etc, Broner is probably done, Matthyse? I don't know.

gilgamesh wrote:

ValMar wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:If you're talking about is there a realistic chance that somebody gets ALL the belts like Crawford did. No. That sh*t almost never happens in any weight class. Politics and all sorts of BS is in place to keep it from happening, and aside from that. Without Crawford there, most of the 140 pound division frankly isn't very good. You could see titles change hands a lot with the group of contenders that's currently there.

You are probably right, but this is a pretty sad scenario.
What about young American fighters (Davis, first) in a two or three years ?

Gervonta Davis? I don't see him ever being a Titleholder at 140.

Off topic, but -----is Gervonta Davis "the champion material" at all ? I have watched him twice, and I am not convinced, his opponents were not on the highest level.

ValMar wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

ValMar wrote:
You are probably right, but this is a pretty sad scenario.
What about young American fighters (Davis, first) in a two or three years ?

Gervonta Davis? I don't see him ever being a Titleholder at 140.

Off topic, but -----is Gervonta Davis "the champion material" at all ? I have watched him twice, and I am not convinced, his opponents were not on the highest level.

I mean he's won a 130 pound title. It's not out of the question he could pick something up at 135 I don't think, but I don't know that he'd ever establish himself as the #1 guy in his weight class. He certainly hasn't done it at 130.

gilgamesh wrote:

ValMar wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Gervonta Davis? I don't see him ever being a Titleholder at 140.

Off topic, but -----is Gervonta Davis "the champion material" at all ? I have watched him twice, and I am not convinced, his opponents were not on the highest level.

I mean he's won a 130 pound title. It's not out of the question he could pick something up at 135 I don't think, but I don't know that he'd ever establish himself as the #1 guy in his weight class. He certainly hasn't done it at 130.

Who has established himself as the #1 guy at 130? Fighting Rigo does not get you there.

Tanzio wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Off topic, but -----is Gervonta Davis "the champion material" at all ? I have watched him twice, and I am not convinced, his opponents were not on the highest level.

I mean he's won a 130 pound title. It's not out of the question he could pick something up at 135 I don't think, but I don't know that he'd ever establish himself as the #1 guy in his weight class. He certainly hasn't done it at 130.

Who has established himself as the #1 guy at 130? Fighting Rigo does not get you there.

Lomachenko is the #1 guy for the time being. Beating Walters makes him so. I'd say Berchelt is #2.

I'd say berchelt is #1.

I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio wrote:I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio, Saad ! I can not believe ! Lomachenko is the level above the rest ! Two levels !

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio, Saad ! I can not believe ! Lomachenko is the level above the rest ! Two levels !

Why not let him prove it?

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio, Saad ! I can not believe ! Lomachenko is the level above the rest ! Two levels !

I think he'd have a lot of hell with Berchelt. I'd like to see that fight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio, Saad ! I can not believe ! Lomachenko is the level above the rest ! Two levels !

Why not let him prove it?

? ? ? Excuse me, my English is pretty bad.....I really can not understand you...You claim that Loma is unproven and Berchelt is #1 at 130 ?

gilgamesh wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I agree. Berchelt is #1, if anyone.

Tanzio, Saad ! I can not believe ! Lomachenko is the level above the rest ! Two levels !

I think he'd have a lot of hell with Berchelt. I'd like to see that fight.

....And Walters has been considered potentially dangerous for Loma.