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Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 02:37
by BitPlayer
Hagler hit Hearns low several times, but he just kept fighting like a bitch. He should have done what a real warrior like Kovalev done. slumped down and complained to the ref. That's how real men fight, none of this fighting nonsense. If only Hearns was as tough as Kovalev he could have gotten a bunch of whiny fanboys to call him the REAL winner, instead of merely going down as being in one of the greatest fights in history.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 02:45
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tommy hearns is the god of boxing.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 03:18
by Ossyrules
There's nothing like moaning about whiny bitched than making a thread moaning like a whiny bitch :clap:

And yes Hearns is boxing royalty

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 03:51
by handsofstone
A bit off topic but is Hearns the best example of a fighter carrying their power up with them?, you always hear of guys moving up saying they will be punching harder at the new weight but seldom to they KO guys like they used to

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 03:55
by Enlightened-One
BitPlayer wrote:Hagler hit Hearns low several times, but he just kept fighting like a bitch. He should have done what a real warrior like Kovalev done. slumped down and complained to the ref. That's how real men fight, none of this fighting nonsense. If only Hearns was as tough as Kovalev he could have gotten a bunch of whiny fanboys to call him the REAL winner, instead of merely going down as being in one of the greatest fights in history.
That was very funny. :TU:

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 05:38
by Tomasino
handsofstone wrote:A bit off topic but is Hearns the best example of a fighter carrying their power up with them?, you always hear of guys moving up saying they will be punching harder at the new weight but seldom to they KO guys like they used to

Good point. He carried his punch but his chin got worse. How a former welterweight could bounce Andries like that I'll never know. Phenomenal.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:51
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tomasino wrote:
handsofstone wrote:A bit off topic but is Hearns the best example of a fighter carrying their power up with them?, you always hear of guys moving up saying they will be punching harder at the new weight but seldom to they KO guys like they used to

Good point. He carried his punch but his chin got worse. How a former welterweight could bounce Andries like that I'll never know. Phenomenal.
He was never stopped at light heavy or cruiserweight.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:51
by Tomasino
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
handsofstone wrote:A bit off topic but is Hearns the best example of a fighter carrying their power up with them?, you always hear of guys moving up saying they will be punching harder at the new weight but seldom to they KO guys like they used to

Good point. He carried his punch but his chin got worse. How a former welterweight could bounce Andries like that I'll never know. Phenomenal.
He was never stopped at light heavy or cruiserweight.

I know, I was thinking of Barkley and a couple of wobbly moments vs Roldan.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:02
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tomasino wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

Good point. He carried his punch but his chin got worse. How a former welterweight could bounce Andries like that I'll never know. Phenomenal.
He was never stopped at light heavy or cruiserweight.

I know, I was thinking of Barkley and a couple of wobbly moments vs Roldan.
I blame that more on going back down than moving up. His legs were half gone.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:05
by Tomasino
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: He was never stopped at light heavy or cruiserweight.

I know, I was thinking of Barkley and a couple of wobbly moments vs Roldan.
I blame that more on going back down than moving up. His legs were half gone.

I just rewatched him vs Roldan, what a battle. Roldan could hit!

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:11
by Kalan
Ossyrules wrote:There's nothing like moaning about whiny bitched than making a thread moaning like a whiny bitch :clap:

And yes Hearns is boxing royalty
Hearns was a skinny and chinny kid who ducked Mike McCallum -- who would have KO'd Tommy the way he ripped undefeated bomber Julian Jackson, 29-0. Tommy got knocked out by Ray Leonard, Marv Hagler, and Iran Barkley while he was in his 20's... Mike McCallum was NEVER knocked out and fought guys like James Toney (who made a shiitbag out of Iran Barkley) Roy Jones, and many other great fighters when he was well past his due date.

McCallum repeated called out Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Unfortunately McCallum was from Jamaica... He didn't have the powers and manipulators of the Boxing scene behind him.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:13
by Ossyrules
Kalan wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:There's nothing like moaning about whiny bitched than making a thread moaning like a whiny bitch :clap:

And yes Hearns is boxing royalty
Hearns was a skinny and chinny kid who ducked Mike McCallum -- who would have KO'd Tommy the way he ripped undefeated bomber Julian Jackson, 29-0. Tommy got knocked out by Ray Leonard, Marv Hagler, and Iran Barkley while he was in his 20's... Mike McCallum was NEVER knocked out and fought guys like James Toney (who made a shiitbag out of Iran Barkley) Roy Jones, and many other great fighters when he was well past his due date.

McCallum repeated called out Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Unfortunately McCallum was from Jamaica... He didn't have the powers and manipulators of the Boxing scene behind him.
McCallum was a great fighter also I agree

It doesn't change my opinion that Hearns was incredible. A true great

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:14
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tomasino wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

I know, I was thinking of Barkley and a couple of wobbly moments vs Roldan.
I blame that more on going back down than moving up. His legs were half gone.

I just rewatched him vs Roldan, what a battle. Roldan could hit!
That was a war, he was giving Barkley one of the most brutal beatings in history before he got caught. Some of the most vicious hooks to the body I've ever seen. Amazing Iran stood up to it

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote:
Kalan wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:There's nothing like moaning about whiny bitched than making a thread moaning like a whiny bitch :clap:

And yes Hearns is boxing royalty
Hearns was a skinny and chinny kid who ducked Mike McCallum -- who would have KO'd Tommy the way he ripped undefeated bomber Julian Jackson, 29-0. Tommy got knocked out by Ray Leonard, Marv Hagler, and Iran Barkley while he was in his 20's... Mike McCallum was NEVER knocked out and fought guys like James Toney (who made a shiitbag out of Iran Barkley) Roy Jones, and many other great fighters when he was well past his due date.

McCallum repeated called out Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Unfortunately McCallum was from Jamaica... He didn't have the powers and manipulators of the Boxing scene behind him.
McCallum was a great fighter also I agree

It doesn't change my opinion that Hearns was incredible. A true great
Mike wasn't ducked, he just came a little late to the party. Nobody alive wanted Duran or hearns to fight the unknown McCallum instead of each other and hagler. Mike was a great fighter, just more in the class of Chavez than those guys.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:19
by Tomasino
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I blame that more on going back down than moving up. His legs were half gone.

I just rewatched him vs Roldan, what a battle. Roldan could hit!
That was a war, he was giving Barkley one of the most brutal beatings in history before he got caught. Some of the most vicious hooks to the body I've ever seen. Amazing Iran stood up to it

You know, I really like Barkley but I hate that fight. How it turned around sickened me. Same feeling when I watched Corrales vs JLC 1.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 13:24
by SaadOffTheDeck
Tomasino wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

I just rewatched him vs Roldan, what a battle. Roldan could hit!
That was a war, he was giving Barkley one of the most brutal beatings in history before he got caught. Some of the most vicious hooks to the body I've ever seen. Amazing Iran stood up to it

You know, I really like Barkley but I hate that fight. How it turned around sickened me. Same feeling when I watched Corrales vs JLC 1.
At least hearns didn't get completely screwed like Castillo did. One of the worst robberies ever, I can't rewatch that one. I prefer the rematch when corrales got his comeuppance.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:00
by Kalan
It was a good stoppage... It was back and forth, but Castillo was a complete dishrag when the referee stepped in to save him... He was getting pounded out

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:07
by Tanzio
Kalan wrote:It was a good stoppage... It was back and forth, but Castillo was a complete dishrag when the referee stepped in to save him... He was getting pounded out
KalpiJ showing his bloomers again.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:17
by Tanzio
3G and GingerHead did not act like they had been shot when a punched slipped low either.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:43
by Kalan
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Kalan wrote:
Hearns was a skinny and chinny kid who ducked Mike McCallum -- who would have KO'd Tommy the way he ripped undefeated bomber Julian Jackson, 29-0. Tommy got knocked out by Ray Leonard, Marv Hagler, and Iran Barkley while he was in his 20's... Mike McCallum was NEVER knocked out and fought guys like James Toney (who made a shiitbag out of Iran Barkley) Roy Jones, and many other great fighters when he was well past his due date.

McCallum repeated called out Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk

Unfortunately McCallum was from Jamaica... He didn't have the powers and manipulators of the Boxing scene behind him.
McCallum was a great fighter also I agree

It doesn't change my opinion that Hearns was incredible. A true great
Mike wasn't ducked, he just came a little late to the party. Nobody alive wanted Duran or hearns to fight the unknown McCallum instead of each other and hagler. Mike was a great fighter, just more in the class of Chavez than those guys.
McCallum was ducked...SERIOUSLY ducked... Julian Jackson was really bad news. He knocked undefeated Terry Norris out in brutal fashion and was 29-0 when McCallum ripped out his body and ran over him in 2 rounds.. That made McCallum 27-0... McCallum won the WBA Super Welterweight Title a month after Hearns beat James Hutchings at 154.. Hearns didn't fight again for 7 months so there was a window for them to unify.

McCallum was in the mix, winning and fighting for World Middleweight Titles when Leonard was fighting at 160... Leonard didn't want him.. None of those guys wanted to fight McCallum because he was too good... He would have beaten all of them and he was certainly no Chavez Jr... Chavez leads with his head and absorbs punches non-stop.. He can't box or punch and McCallum was a terrific boxer-puncher.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:52
by SaadOffTheDeck
:lol: Chavez sr, kid. His dad was a boxer too.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 03:22
by crow
Kalan wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Unfortunately McCallum was from Jamaica... He didn't have the powers and manipulators of the Boxing scene behind him.
Respek money.

Abel Sanchez would have fixed him a meeting with Leonard in no time; just forget these sickening body punches for one fight and you'll be set for life. :TU:

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 08:59
by Thomastearns
Tommy Hearns was the most exciting fighter I have ever seen. Hardly a dull round anywhere in his career. Even the so called bicycle fight with Benitez was great.

He makes GGG look like solid, safe, and cautious. The impending sense of danger (either way) and heightened drama was always there. The meters went off the scale against Hagler, Leonard and Duran etc.

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 09:16
by Oiky
Proper fighting man was hearns

Re: Something I noticed about Hagler Hearns

Posted: 23 Sep 2017, 09:18
by Syntax Error
BitPlayer wrote:Hagler hit Hearns low several times, but he just kept fighting like a bitch. He should have done what a real warrior like Kovalev done. slumped down and complained to the ref. That's how real men fight, none of this fighting nonsense. If only Hearns was as tough as Kovalev he could have gotten a bunch of whiny fanboys to call him the REAL winner, instead of merely going down as being in one of the greatest fights in history.
Tommy Hearns is pure class & he would never have done that.

Tommy would have fought until he could fight no more & he wouldn't have complained one iota; this is the reason why I got so narked with the late, great Emmanuel Steward's pathetic excuses for Tommy's defeats, especially the Hagler one with some nonsense about someone massaging the Hitman's legs. :witzend: