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ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 05:02
by man
why was this fight not over turned and a
rematch ordered since it was a TKO and
the final punch was a low blow?
i am not cynical about this, but shouldn't
sanctioning bodies be doing exactly this
kind of thing, especially if even the ref
concedes he got it wrong?
btw i think ward adapted very well in the
fight and would have won anyways. still ...
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 05:30
by Ricky_
man wrote:why was this fight not over turned and a
rematch ordered since it was a TKO and
the final punch was a low blow?
i am not cynical about this, but shouldn't
sanctioning bodies be doing exactly this
kind of thing, especially if even the ref
concedes he got it wrong?
btw i think ward adapted very well in the
fight and would have won anyways. still ...
It's the kind of corruption we've come to expect from Bob Bennett and the wretched NSAC.
I hope promoters start boycotting vegas.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:03
by greg
...too many parties involved, too much money changing hands..
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:16
by Tanzio
. . . too conclusive.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:18
by Kilsby
Tanzio wrote:. . . too conclusive.
This ^^^

Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:32
by littlepug
Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 11:37
by Kilsby
littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
This^^^

Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:18
by Cent0089
Lets get legalized low blows. Lets overturn Golotas fight with Bowe. Ward fought like a b!tch and no one will watch his fights with full of dirty crap again. Kovalev is complainer with poor stamina.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 12:22
by tiny_acres
littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Good post. Wish people would get over this crap.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:22
by Tanzio
Cent0089 wrote:Lets get legalized low blows. Lets overturn Golotas fight with Bowe. Ward fought like a b!tch and no one will watch his fights with full of dirty crap again. Kovalev is complainer with poor stamina.
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
Damn!! That was better than a bong hit.
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Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:33
by ldlamb
On the belt
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:33
by ldlamb
tiny_acres wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Good post. Wish people would get over this crap.
Hear! Hear!
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 14:54
by man
littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
i'm not up in arms about this. i believe
ward manages the art of playing borderline
dirty as much as the ref allows him to. but
i have never seen a fighter winning by TKO
with the final blow being low. have you?
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:05
by littlepug
man wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
i'm not up in arms about this. i believe
ward manages the art of playing borderline
dirty as much as the ref allows him to. but
i have never seen a fighter winning by TKO
with the final blow being low. have you?
Duran v Buchanan ?
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:24
by FastestHandsInThewest
Might not be overturned but there's a reason why he retired.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:27
by Tanzio
True. Because he felt like it.

Krushedner is breathing easier today.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:43
by hoagylt
littlepug wrote:man wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
i'm not up in arms about this. i believe
ward manages the art of playing borderline
dirty as much as the ref allows him to. but
i have never seen a fighter winning by TKO
with the final blow being low. have you?
Duran v Buchanan ?
Duran vs Buchanan ?? Duran beat the Scot pillar to post. Not a dirty fight.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 15:47
by littlepug
hoagylt wrote:littlepug wrote:man wrote:
i'm not up in arms about this. i believe
ward manages the art of playing borderline
dirty as much as the ref allows him to. but
i have never seen a fighter winning by TKO
with the final blow being low. have you?
Duran v Buchanan ?
Duran vs Buchanan ?? Duran beat the Scot pillar to post. Not a dirty fight.
That's not what you asked
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:04
by Mexi-Box
littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Let's legalize low blows then since they don't matter.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:28
by boxing_rocks
Ward retired, because RN paid him extra $10 million for his last two fights. Ward hasn't been enjoying boxing for a long time, probably since the Dawson fight, and those $10 million allowed him to comfortably retire.
RN was working on a November 4th card in Oakland for Ward, but he either wasn't satisfied with his pay or just too lazy to train again.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 16:50
by Blodhemn
littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Since when was Ward a pure boxer? He's more of the Hatton, grab and hit type. Always has been.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 17:14
by littlepug
Mexi-Box wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Let's legalize low blows then since they don't matter.
Of course they matter.... if you get caught, the smartest pros will always let one go low to slow down an over zealous opponent, theres too much at stake for these guys not to flirt around the rules, its always been that way, its the unwritten rule that you suck it up and take it like a man, its what separates boxing from other sports in that it mirrors real life in all its glory, tragedy and injustice
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 17:21
by littlepug
Blodhemn wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
Since when was Ward a pure boxer? He's more of the Hatton, grab and hit type. Always has been.
Ward for me was technically more correct than Hatton, with a better thought process behind his work and the kind of feet only the best posses
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 17:27
by man
littlepug wrote:man wrote:littlepug wrote:Because its a rough tough sport and that kind of namby pamby approach just doesn't fit in with the ideals of the sport, you get a Duran or Tyson flirting with the rules and its celebrated because they are bad guys, but a pure boxer does it and everybody is up in arms, man up guys or follow a different sport
i'm not up in arms about this. i believe
ward manages the art of playing borderline
dirty as much as the ref allows him to. but
i have never seen a fighter winning by TKO
with the final blow being low. have you?
Duran v Buchanan ?
was unaware of that, thnx.
Re: ward-kova II, why not overturned?
Posted: 22 Sep 2017, 17:27
by asdfjkl
Because they are Americans, Americans get away with everything in boxing.