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Posted: **26 Sep 2017, 23:16**

Who wins those fantasy fights?

Holyfield (LL version) vs Povetkin (Wladimir's version)

Haye (Wladimir's] vs Tua (Lewis's version)

Galota (LL] vs Wach (WK)

Briggs (LL) vs Pulev (WK)

Morrison (LL) vs Jennings (WK)

Grant (LL) vs Chagaev (WK)

Bruno (LL) VS Sultan Ibragimov (WK)

Zeljko Mavrovic (LL] vs Byrd (WK)

Posted: **26 Sep 2017, 23:27**

Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 01:55**

Holyfield, haye, golota, pulev, Morrison, chagaev, Bruno, byrd

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 02:19**

gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic

Haye easily outboxes Tua... Just too fast and skilled for him and in a totally different class.

Wach beats the shiit out of Golota like big, slow, clumsy Michael Grant did...

Jennings is too fast and skilled for Morrison -- who AFTER ALL was knocked in the 1st round by Michael Bentt and blown away by Ray Mercer who had like 17 fights.. People tend to forget how slow Morrison was.. how unskilled he was.. and how much of a China-chin he was.

Pulev would beat the shiit out of Briggs like Sultan Ibragimov and Jameel McCline did.. The fight would not even be close.

Ibragimov would outbox Bruno as easily as he outboxed massive Shannon Briggs.

You've got the Chagaev-Grant fight right.

Byrd possibly decisions Mavrovic like you say.. But that fight is problematic for Byrd because he had trouble with big, tall, strong guys.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 02:22**

Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic
Haye easily outboxes Tua... Just too fast and skilled for him and in a totally different class.

Wach beats the shiit out of Golota like big, slow, clumsy Michael Grant did...

Jennings is too fast and skilled for Morrison -- who AFTER ALL was knocked out in the 1st round by the miserable Michael Bentt, and blown away by Ray Mercer who had like 17 fights.. People tend to forget how slow Morrison was.. how unskilled he was.. and how much of a China-chin he was.

Pulev would beat the shiit out of Briggs like Sultan Ibragimov and Jameel McCline did.. The fight would not even be close.

Ibragimov would outbox Bruno as easily as he outboxed massive Shannon Briggs.

You've got the Chagaev-Grant fight right.

Byrd possibly decisions Mavrovic like you say.. But that fight is problematic for Byrd because he had trouble with big, tall, strong guys.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 02:40**

IronFrost wrote:Who wins those fantasy fights?

Holyfield (LL version) vs Povetkin (Wladimir's version)

Haye (Wladimir's] vs Tua (Lewis's version)

Galota (LL] vs Wach (WK)

Briggs (LL) vs Pulev (WK)

Morrison (LL) vs Jennings (WK)

Grant (LL) vs Chagaev (WK)

Bruno (LL) VS Sultan Ibragimov (WK)

Zeljko Mavrovic (LL] vs Byrd (WK)

Holyfield beats Povetkin (but it would be close as Evander was past his best then)

Haye outboxes Tua (too slow)

Golota outpoints Wach providing he doesn't foul his way to a DQ

Pulev outboxes Briggs, but a close one. Briggs was probably at his peak here. So, a 50/50 with Briggs possibly KOing Pulev.

Morrison was done by here. Jennings UD.

Chagaev schools Grant.

Ibragimov outpoints Bruno.

Byrd beats Mavrovic. But, difficult as he did well against Lewis but Lennox was below par that night.

Interestingly, WK opponents do pretty well here, considering Lewis is recognised as having the better resume.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 03:19**

Holyfield - UD

Haye - UD

Golota - UD

Briggs - KO

Jennings - UD

Chagaev - UD

Bruno - KO

Byrd - KO

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 03:21**

fightfan95 wrote:Holyfield - UD

Haye - UD

Golota - UD

Briggs - KO

Jennings - UD

Chagaev - UD

Bruno - KO

Byrd - KO

Byrd by KO? Big Bob was pretty awful but Byrd couldn't dent a can.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 04:09**

Loki wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:Holyfield - UD

Haye - UD

Golota - UD

Briggs - KO

Jennings - UD

Chagaev - UD

Bruno - KO

Byrd - KO
Byrd by KO? Big Bob was pretty awful but Byrd couldn't dent a can.

That's very true, Byrd didn't have the power

But Mavrovic was awful

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 04:28**

fightfan95 wrote:
Loki wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:Holyfield - UD

Haye - UD

Golota - UD

Briggs - KO

Jennings - UD

Chagaev - UD

Bruno - KO

Byrd - KO
Byrd by KO? Big Bob was pretty awful but Byrd couldn't dent a can.
That's very true, Byrd didn't have the power But Mavrovic was awful

Apologies, I got confused here. Not sure why, I confused Mavrovic and Bob Mirovic.

My original opinion is the correct one and it's difficult to gage how good Mavrovic was, as LL was underpar on that night and Mavrovic retired through illness shortly after.

Byrd, IMO, beats Mavrovic by UD. He won't KO though.

To clarify, Bob Mirovic was bloody awful.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 06:01**

Loki wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
Loki wrote:
Byrd by KO? Big Bob was pretty awful but Byrd couldn't dent a can.
That's very true, Byrd didn't have the power But Mavrovic was awful
Apologies, I got confused here. Not sure why, I confused Mavrovic and Bob Mirovic.

My original opinion is the correct one and it's difficult to gage how good Mavrovic was, as LL was underpar on that night and Mavrovic retired through illness shortly after.

Byrd, IMO, beats Mavrovic by UD. He won't KO though.

To clarify, Bob Mirovic was bloody awful.

I was a little confused

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 09:35**

IronFrost wrote:Who wins those fantasy fights?

Holyfield (LL version) vs Povetkin (Wladimir's version)

Haye (Wladimir's] vs Tua (Lewis's version)

Galota (LL] vs Wach (WK)

Briggs (LL) vs Pulev (WK)

Morrison (LL) vs Jennings (WK)

Grant (LL) vs Chagaev (WK)

Bruno (LL) VS Sultan Ibragimov (WK)

Zeljko Mavrovic (LL] vs Byrd (WK)

Lewis's opponents are mostly better, but were further removed from their primes, which makes the matchups more competitive.

Povetkin outpoints the Holyfield of the first Lewis fight (with fair judges) but loses a clear decision to the Holyfield from the second fight.

A prime Tua stops Haye in the mid-to-late rounds, but the fat one who fought Lewis probably loses a clear decision.

Golota is superior to Wach, but mentally frail. He should win a decision, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Each stop him late.

Pulev is a better boxer than Briggs and should win a decision, but as someone pointed out, this is a prime Briggs, so he has a good punchers chance for a KO.

A prime Morrison might be favourite to beat Jennings, I think this faded version loses a competitive decision or gets stopped late.

Chagaev outboxes Grant to win a clear decision.

Bruno wins a clear decision over Ibragimov.

Byrd wins a close decision over Mavrovic.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 09:41**

No way in hell povetkin beats evander.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 10:45**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No way in hell povetkin beats evander.

Whilst I agree, and although Holyfield was great against Tyson in 97, he had started to slip. Tyson wasn't the same after time in the clink and the Holyfield that fought Lewis was past his best. The Ruiz trilogy demonstrated that.

I think Evander wins but it wouldn't be clear cut. Saying that, Povetkin has been a lot better since the WK fight; I wonder why?

Evander by clear UD.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 11:16**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Holyfield, haye, golota, pulev, Morrison, chagaev, Bruno, byrd

This is how I saw it.
Saves me typing

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 14:27**

Morrison beats Jennings???? ... when he got flattened by Michael Bentt??? Be serious. Wladimir couldn't get rid of Jennings and lost a couple rounds.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:27**

Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic
Haye easily outboxes Tua... Just too fast and skilled for him and in a totally different class.

Wach beats the shiit out of Golota like big, slow, clumsy Michael Grant did...

This comment tells me you never saw the Golota vs Michael Grant fight. You saw the result, and assumed Grant "Beat the sh*t out of him". Golota was ahead on all 3 scorecards, and had dropped Grant twice in the 1st round of the fight. He got knocked down in the 10th, then got up and quit. That was always Golota's M.O.

He had the physical ability, just not the mental capacity to be a good fighter.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:32**

Kalan wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic
Haye easily outboxes Tua... Just too fast and skilled for him and in a totally different class.

Wach beats the shiit out of Golota like big, slow, clumsy Michael Grant did...

Jennings is too fast and skilled for Morrison -- who AFTER ALL was knocked in the 1st round by Michael Bentt and blown away by Ray Mercer who had like 17 fights.. People tend to forget how slow Morrison was.. how unskilled he was.. and how much of a China-chin he was.

Pulev would beat the shiit out of Briggs like Sultan Ibragimov and Jameel McCline did.. The fight would not even be close.

Ibragimov would outbox Bruno as easily as he outboxed massive Shannon Briggs.

You've got the Chagaev-Grant fight right.

Byrd possibly decisions Mavrovic like you say.. But that fight is problematic for Byrd because he had trouble with big, tall, strong guys.

90% of this post is the unlikely result

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:33**

gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic

I'm with you on all them except David Haye. It's a tough call as Haye is the much better athlete but if tua got to him he wouldn't survive

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:34**

it's not the first time i have seen him repeat this Golota vs Grant bullshit

Holyfield UD/SD Povetkin after very entertaining fight
Tua KO late Haye
Golota UD wide Wach
Pulev UD Briggs
Morrison vs Jennings Draw
Ibragimov TKO late Bruno
Chagaev UD Grant
Byrd SD Mavrovic

4-1-3 on Klitschko's favour but obviously Lewis got a better resume in total

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:35**

Ossyrules wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holyfield over Povetkin, easy

David Tua KO's David Haye

Golota would be able to outbox Wach the entire fight, the only question is whether or not he'd finish the fight without biting or low blowing or head butting Wach, because we all know Wach ain't going anywhere.

Shannon Briggs would stop Pulev

Tommy Morrison vs Bryant Jennings would probably be a 50/50 type fight. I'd have to give the edge to Tommy though as he proved more.

Ruslan Chagaev outboxes Michael Grant

Frank Bruno stops Sultan Ibragimov

Byrd decisions Mavrovic
I'm with you on all them except David Haye. It's a tough call as Haye is the much better athlete but if tua got to him he wouldn't survive

I can agree with that. I definitely think Haye would be winning every round, and outboxing Tua every step of the way. I just figure that at some point over 12 rounds Tua catches him with something that ends his night. It's Tua though so I could easily be wrong.

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:35**

IronFrost wrote:Who wins those fantasy fights?

Holyfield (LL version) vs Povetkin (Wladimir's version)

Haye (Wladimir's] vs Tua (Lewis's version)

Galota (LL] vs Wach (WK)

Briggs (LL) vs Pulev (WK)

Morrison (LL) vs Jennings (WK)

Grant (LL) vs Chagaev (WK)

Bruno (LL) VS Sultan Ibragimov (WK)

Zeljko Mavrovic (LL] vs Byrd (WK)

Holyfield UD12 Povetkin, prime Holyfield would stop him
Haye UD12 Tua
Golota UD12 Wach
Pulev UD12 Briggs
Morrison SD12 Jennings
Chagaev TKO9 Grant
Ibragimov UD12 Bruno
Byrd UD12 Mavrovic

5-3 in Klitschko's favour

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 15:39**

I'm surprised the Bruno fight that many are going with the opponent. Bruno, who whilst in his day was more a contender than champion, is so much better than 90% of what's around today. He is big favourite to beat his opponent in this fantasy match up

Posted: **27 Sep 2017, 16:58**

Hmmm... I'm amazed anyone would pick Bruno to beat Ibragimov...who lost only one fight to an ATG. He was never close to being stopped. He pretty much shut out Shannon Briggs while giving up over 50 pounds on the scales. He peppered Briggs freely while avoiding his unimaginative swings.

Bruno was knocked out 5 times and pretty easy to hit.. He wasn't clever, fast, or deceptive with his offense, so good boxers eluded most of his punches.

I view Morrison vs Jennings the same way basically.. Jennings out-boxed Mike Perez who was a little on the lines of a Morrison, but physically much tougher and more durable.. With Morrison's soft chin and failure to hold a decent pace in his fights, I can't see him beating Jennings in a million years.

Posted: **28 Sep 2017, 03:20**

Kalan wrote:Hmmm... I'm amazed anyone would pick Bruno to beat Ibragimov...who lost only one fight to an ATG. He was never close to being stopped. He pretty much shut out Shannon Briggs while giving up over 50 pounds on the scales. He peppered Briggs freely while avoiding his unimaginative swings.

Bruno was knocked out 5 times and pretty easy to hit.. He wasn't clever, fast, or deceptive with his offense, so good boxers eluded most of his punches.

I view Morrison vs Jennings the same way basically.. Jennings out-boxed Mike Perez who was a little on the lines of a Morrison, but physically much tougher and more durable.. With Morrison's soft chin and failure to hold a decent pace in his fights, I can't see him beating Jennings in a million years.

Igbragimov would have been stopped on a number of occasions if he fought Bruno's opponents or in that era

In fact with all due respect, you picking igbragimov is actually an endorsement for Bruno!

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