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A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 05:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Pound for Pound #1 / 1970 - 2017
1970
Jan: Jose Napoles
Dec: Joe Frazier
1971
June: Jose Napoles
Jan: George Foreman
1974
Jan: Muhammad Ali
1978
Feb: Roberto Duran
Sept: Muhammad Ali
1979
Oct: Roberto Duran
1980
Nov: Sugar Ray Leonard
1982
Feb: Marvin Hagler
1987
April: Sugar Ray Leonard
Aug: Mike Tyson
1990
Feb: Pernell Whitaker
Mar: Julio Cesar Chavez
1993
Sep: Riddick Bowe
Nov: Evander Holyfield
1994
April: Pernell Whitaker
1997
April: Oscar De La Hoya
1999
Sept: Felix Trinidad
2001
Sept: Bernard Hopkins
2002
Sept: Roy Jones Jr.
2005
July: Floyd Mayweather
2010
Nov: Manny Pacquiao
2011
Sept: Floyd Mayweather
2016
Sept: Roman Gonzalez
Nov: Manny Pacquiao / Andre Ward
2017
Andre Ward
Sept: Gennady Golovkin
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 08:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
I'm not sure where you got this list, definitely not accurate. Not that p4p is anything beyond a mythical ranking but nobody ever called Ruddock bowe the greatest fighter in the world. Even more absurd is Manny last year. Nobody had him the #1 welter.

Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 08:22
by Ruthless-RKO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm not sure where you got this list, definitely not accurate. Not that p4p is anything beyond a mythical ranking but nobody ever called Ruddock bowe the greatest fighter in the world. Even more absurd is Manny last year. Nobody had him the #1 welter.

WBN posted it. I found it strange too, just wanted to share it and get anyone's thoughts. I believe Manny became automatic P4P when he decided to resume his boxing career before fighting Jesse Vargas.
Bowe stands out to be the strangest.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 17:52
by Flump
Ruthless-RKO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm not sure where you got this list, definitely not accurate. Not that p4p is anything beyond a mythical ranking but nobody ever called Ruddock bowe the greatest fighter in the world. Even more absurd is Manny last year. Nobody had him the #1 welter.

WBN posted it. I found it strange too, just wanted to share it and get anyone's thoughts. I believe Manny became automatic P4P when he decided to resume his boxing career before fighting Jesse Vargas.
Bowe stands out to be the strangest.
I would say Foreman in 1971 is the strangest.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 18:55
by Kalan
When I think about P4P greatest boxer in the world I think Tunney... Pep... Jofre... Napoles... Sanchez... Joshua... Jones... Hopkins... Mayweather... Lomachenko... Mikey Garcia.. I'm thinking of somebody who's a brilliant boxer -- somebody who's skills represent what the sport could be and should be.
I'm not thinking of Foreman... Hagler... Bowe... De La Hoya... Pacquiao or other guys who may have great names, but are generally fighters more than boxers. and take their share of punches to get the job done. The main objective in the art and science of Boxing is hitting without being hit. Although the best boxers can take the offensive, something seems to be lost if you're a brawler who will take 2 to give 1. Defensive mastery should be your main objective. Mayweather didn't do badly concentrating on defense perhaps more than any other boxer ever. The only problem I have is when he's interviewed he makes it all about Mayweather rather than Boxing and his journey in the sport.
I like to see somebody, that if he's interviewed comes off like LaBron James, Roger Federer, Michael Phelps, or Wayne Gretzky.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 19:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
You should try watching a hagler fight other than Leonard and mugabi. Of course you'll just talk about Monroe and watts. He was an exceptional boxer. One of the best ever.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 19:52
by paddy chavez
How is bowe on there ,he wasn't even the undisputed heavyweight champion never mind p4p ...
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 20:07
by Kalan
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You should try watching a hagler fight other than Leonard and mugabi. Of course you'll just talk about Monroe and watts. He was an exceptional boxer. One of the best ever.
I don't know who he boxed who was good.. Leonard of course and Duran.. He didn't show overwhelming skills in those.. He was a tough man though and I saw all his championship fights and fights well before he was champion, like his "draw" with Antuofermo and his match with Geraldo. I had SRL to beat him
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 20:25
by SaadOffTheDeck
Kalan wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:You should try watching a hagler fight other than Leonard and mugabi. Of course you'll just talk about Monroe and watts. He was an exceptional boxer. One of the best ever.
I don't know who he boxed who was good.. Leonard of course and Duran.. He didn't show overwhelming skills in those.. He was a tough man though and I saw all his championship fights and fights well before he was champion, like his "draw" with Antuofermo and his match with Geraldo. I had SRL to beat him
Good to see you admit you know nothing of him. He won at least 10 rounds in that draw and vowed not to let the judges screw him again. I also had Leonard.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 20:40
by Kalan
YOU know nothing about Hagler... I watched his first Title Fight against Vito live and laughed at the decision.. It was a bigger robbery than GGG's last fight.. That why I put exclamation points around "draw" to let readers know I thought it was a robbery.
Stop assuming what fights I've seen and not seen, because I've been watching fights before you were born.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 20:52
by FastestHandsInThewest
Not only did you miss so many years but this list is false.
Re: A History of Pound for Pound: 1970 - 2017
Posted: 27 Sep 2017, 21:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
Kalan wrote:YOU know nothing about Hagler... I watched his first Title Fight against Vito live and laughed at the decision.. It was a bigger robbery than GGG's last fight.. That why I put exclamation points around "draw" to let readers know I thought it was a robbery.
Stop assuming what fights I've seen and not seen, because I've been watching fights before you were born.
You can tell what you have and have not seen by your ridiculous comments. I saw it live too, it was on the undercard of benitez/Leonard. Of course I had watched Marvin live several times by then.