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I knew something will go wrong with this fight and Wilder won't fight a legit opponent. So both Povetkin and Ortiz stacked their bodies with peds knowing they will have to be tested before fighting Wilder and screw their chance to become champions ? I don't buy it!

The very fact it was predicted by most of us months ago, tells it's own story.

Too fvcking easy. Set up your cash cow against a tough opponent, so he gets credit for once again challenging a strong contender (See Povetkin)
Always knowing that your opponent has previous for drug related offenses and the public will easily buy the fact that he has been caught again
Get your pet drug enforcement body to find him dirty and replace said tough opponent with "the best possible challenge we could find at short notice".....step in Amir Mansour

Boxrec spends months having a meltdown debating whether Ortiz was clean until we get distracted by the big talk of a summer showdown with AJ..... which falls through when AJ gets caught on steroids

Boxrec - "Of course AJ was a roidhead, look at his build....."
Wilder - "Is Bryant Jennings available? No? Whats Derric Roosy's phone number?"

Hopefully wilder will get stiverne out of the way on the 4th and go straight to aj.

Where's Dillian Whyte?

Could this be down to the WBC clean boxing program? Something that I don’t think Joshua is signed up to.

davie wrote:The very fact it was predicted by most of us months ago, tells it's own story.

Too fvcking easy. Set up your cash cow against a tough opponent, so he gets credit for once again challenging a strong contender (See Povetkin)
Always knowing that your opponent has previous for drug related offenses and the public will easily buy the fact that he has been caught again
Get your pet drug enforcement body to find him dirty and replace said tough opponent with "the best possible challenge we could find at short notice".....step in Amir Mansour

Boxrec spends months having a meltdown debating whether Ortiz was clean until we get distracted by the big talk of a summer showdown with AJ..... which falls through when AJ gets caught on steroids

Boxrec - "Of course AJ was a roidhead, look at his build....."
Wilder - "Is Bryant Jennings available? No? Whats Derric Roosy's phone number?"

Thanks Davie, you saved me a lot of venting. Pretty much wot you said.

Covfefe wrote:Where's Dillian Whyte?

Ha!
I did say he was the new boogieman
Probably too hard for ala dente.

Covfefe wrote:Where's Dillian Whyte?

I served a drug ban as well. I reckon most HWs take supplements.

davie wrote:The very fact it was predicted by most of us months ago, tells it's own story.

Too fvcking easy. Set up your cash cow against a tough opponent, so he gets credit for once again challenging a strong contender (See Povetkin)
Always knowing that your opponent has previous for drug related offenses and the public will easily buy the fact that he has been caught again
Get your pet drug enforcement body to find him dirty and replace said tough opponent with "the best possible challenge we could find at short notice".....step in Amir Mansour

Boxrec spends months having a meltdown debating whether Ortiz was clean until we get distracted by the big talk of a summer showdown with AJ..... which falls through when AJ gets caught on steroids

Boxrec - "Of course AJ was a roidhead, look at his build....."
Wilder - "Is Bryant Jennings available? No? Whats Derric Roosy's phone number?"

Are you guys kidding me? Ortiz can't even get by his first drug test so we blame Wilder for it? Let's be fair here. Wilder signed on to fight two KNOWN PED abusers and while these PED abusers were getting ready for their biggest fight of their career, they went back to the needle for an unfair edge. Ortiz and Povetkin were caught using well before Wilder got in the picture so let's use our heads here.

We aren't talking about Floyd here with Wilder. Wilder doesn't have the money or the command over the sport to be able to mastermind these types of covert Steroid stings with potential opponents that may threaten his title. THIS is what happens in Boxing when you sign on to fight one of these known PEDdlers...you end up wasting your prime training for fights that never happen. Let's put the blame where it belongs here...one person is keeping this fight in limbo and its not Wilder. Let's not blame the clean guy. Ridiculous.

Is the wbc the same org that allowed Wilder to have countless voluntary defenses, breaks and used their anti-dping program to keep Wilder safe from getting KTFO by Povetkin or Ortiz ?? Sounds right!

caldo2025 wrote:Are you guys kidding me? Ortiz can't even get by his first drug test so we blame Wilder for it? Let's be fair here. Wilder signed on to fight two KNOWN PED abusers and while these PED abusers were getting ready for their biggest fight of their career, they went back to the needle for an unfair edge. Ortiz and Povetkin were caught using well before Wilder got in the picture so let's use our heads here.

We aren't talking about Floyd here with Wilder. Wilder doesn't have the money or the command over the sport to be able to mastermind these types of covert Steroid stings with potential opponents that may threaten his title. THIS is what happens in Boxing when you sign on to fight one of these known PEDdlers...you end up wasting your prime training for fights that never happen. Let's put the blame where it belongs here...one person is keeping this fight in limbo and its not Wilder. Let's not blame the clean guy. Ridiculous.

Wilder is pushed and marketed as the undefeated US hw champ KO machine(only bums). The big stake is the fight with AJ which means a lot of money. If Wilder would fight real threats(Povetkin,Ortiz,Whyte) and lose or look bad in those fights his drawing power would drop significantly which means less interest! I really, really doubt that Ortiz and Povetkin started to take peds knowing they will get tested and risk their chance to become champions! Also when your opponent gets caught on something illegal , people will start hating him and look at him like a cheat... and not look at Wilder as a very protected 'bum beater'.

I could see Wilder fighting Parker next since he did look small and beatable against Hughie. Ortiz was screwed since he is a high risk and low reward fighter and I think Parker would be Wilder's next opponent. wbc would allow this with ease. People would say Wilder wanted to take all tough challenges but it is not his fault that those fighters were 'cheating'? , bla, bla, bla.

apollo creed wrote:How the f$#K everytime Wilder has to fight a solid opponent, that opponent fails the drug test ?? It's very fishy!

I knew something will go wrong with this fight and Wilder won't fight a legit opponent. So both Povetkin and Ortiz stacked their bodies with peds knowing they will have to be tested before fighting Wilder and screw their chance to become champions ? I don't buy it!

Stop with the conspiracy theory fúckíng búllshít nonsense! FFS!

Are you retard or what. Wawrzyk was dangerous tooo? Ortiz was using those medications to mask those peds.

I'ts his fault.

He has been busted more than 2x

IronFrost wrote:Are you retard or what. Wawrzyk was dangerous tooo? Ortiz was using those medications to mask those peds.

I'ts his fault.

He has been busted more than 2x

Please be respectful! You should think out of the box and see that it's something fishy with these anti-doping tests.

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:How the f$#K everytime Wilder has to fight a solid opponent, that opponent fails the drug test ?? It's very fishy!

I knew something will go wrong with this fight and Wilder won't fight a legit opponent. So both Povetkin and Ortiz stacked their bodies with peds knowing they will have to be tested before fighting Wilder and screw their chance to become champions ? I don't buy it!

Stop with the conspiracy theory fúckíng búllshít nonsense! FFS!

Sorry Mr EO but I have to express my thoughts on this BOXING forum about this fake champion who whenever he has to fight a live body/dangerous challenger, somehow that guy is roided to the gills.

why no one is cheating when has to face Anthony Joshua, which is a more dangerous opponent? Ortiz (50/50) and Povetkin (a favourite vs Wilder) wasted their chances to become champs by using peds before a fight they could win? maybe they scared of Wilder and not believed they could beat him clean??? it stinks.

And Ortiz cheated even if he knew that he gonna be tested very strictly because Povetkin and Wawrzyk get ''caught'' so there is no way he could pass the test using illegal substances???

not surprised if Wilder fights very dangerous opponent in Kyotaro Fujimoto next...

dagilechia wrote:why no one is cheating when has to face Anthony Joshua, which is a more dangerous opponent? Ortiz (50/50) and Povetkin (a favourite vs Wilder) wasted their chances to become champs by using peds before a fight they could win? maybe they scared of Wilder and not believed they could beat him clean??? it stinks.

And Ortiz cheated even if he knew that he gonna be tested very strictly because Povetkin and Wawrzyk get ''caught'' so there is no way he could pass the test using illegal substances???

not surprised if Wilder fights very dangerous opponent in Kyotaro Fujimoto next...

Another big 'win' for Wilder via anti-doping test! What a great champion!

Dustin Nichols, Harold Sconiers, Firtha and Arrelola must be on Wilder's radar again.

people who think that Ortiz used illegal substances must consider him as an idiot or paid by Wilders team

apollo creed wrote:Dustin Nichols, Harold Sconiers, Firtha and Arrelola must be on Wilder's radar again.

i thought about Ty Cobb but he scored two wins in one day recently! so probably he's too dangerous, Deontay needs an easier fight now.

What about Audley Harrisons big comeback?

apollo creed wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:How the f$#K everytime Wilder has to fight a solid opponent, that opponent fails the drug test ?? It's very fishy!

I knew something will go wrong with this fight and Wilder won't fight a legit opponent. So both Povetkin and Ortiz stacked their bodies with peds knowing they will have to be tested before fighting Wilder and screw their chance to become champions ? I don't buy it!

Stop with the conspiracy theory fúckíng búllshít nonsense! FFS!

Sorry Mr EO but I have to express my thoughts on this BOXING forum about this fake champion who whenever he has to fight a live body/dangerous challenger, somehow that guy is roided to the gills.

I have also heavily criticised Deontay Wilder’s persistent inability to face genuine world-rated opposition, but your fúckíng absurd unrelenting posts about corruption are simply bizarre!

You cannot seriously believe that every single sporting-related mishap can only have one possible cause, which is corruption?

dagilechia wrote:people who think that Ortiz used illegal substances must consider him as an idiot or paid by Wilders team

I consider him an idiot. Unlike Povetkin who is just a russian scumbag.

So now it's Wilder's fault that Ortiz tested dirty? It doesn't matter even if Wilder pushed to find something, if Ortiz and Potvetkin were clean, we wouldn't be having this conversation.