how long will KING KONG ORTIZ b suspended
Posted: 01 Oct 2017, 11:13
for this time ? he was suspended for 8 months the last time he was caught.
asdfjkl wrote:Most likely not at all, he did nothing wrong, he just got the media against him thanks to some American hypejob.
Wilder isn't giving up his belt over this. It's not a money fight.marvelous marv wrote:I think fight still happens against Wilder even if WBC won't sanction it for any title.
You do realize no one in America is banging down the doors to see him. He's not a big name fighter except in Alabama.asdfjkl wrote:Most likely not at all, he did nothing wrong, he just got the media against him thanks to some American hypejob.
tiny_acres wrote:You do realize no one in America is banging down the doors to see him. He's not a big name fighter except in Alabama.asdfjkl wrote:Most likely not at all, he did nothing wrong, he just got the media against him thanks to some American hypejob.
He does not draw a crowd. He does not get any tv press.
He's basically a non entity in the states.
He has no power in the sport and no real money to speak of. He couldn't fix a fight, or control a drug testing agency if he wanted to.
Show me evidence of that, Wilders claims this is some kind of flush medicine, no clue how he knows that, but if you work with drugs all the time, like Wilder, you probably learn such things over time. Last day I saw someone saying Wilder drinks water and should be banned because of it, I thought he was joking, but now I realise it's the ultimate flush substance he's taking all the time.IronFrost wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Most likely not at all, he did nothing wrong, he just got the media against him thanks to some American hypejob.
You mean like he did fail test 2x before .... Pathetic biased troll .....
He already proved he could with Povetkin, who's innocent as we all know. Povetkin is the real WBC champ.tiny_acres wrote:You do realize no one in America is banging down the doors to see him. He's not a big name fighter except in Alabama.asdfjkl wrote:Most likely not at all, he did nothing wrong, he just got the media against him thanks to some American hypejob.
He does not draw a crowd. He does not get any tv press.
He's basically a non entity in the states.
He has no power in the sport and no real money to speak of. He couldn't fix a fight, or control a drug testing agency if he wanted to.
I know he failed the drug test, but has he been found guilty yet as far as what he disclosed as far as what he was taking prior to the tests? As far as what I read there is no decision yet....dickbelden wrote:for this time ? he was suspended for 8 months the last time he was caught.
boxing_rocks wrote:They should do the hair follicle test as he suggested, but not do it through VADA.
No need to if one is not interested to know the truth.Badhusker wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:They should do the hair follicle test as he suggested, but not do it through VADA.
No need to if he disclosed what meds he was on before the testing began. It sounds like he didn't. Let him fight Povetkin or Briggs...or other juicers.
Ortiz may have not disclosed his condition and medications just because of being afraid to be banned.marvelous marv wrote:What I dont understand, is that if a fighter legitimately has a high blood pressure issue. What doctor on behalf of a state athletic commission is okaying him to compete in combat sports. Shouldn't that be a disqualifying factor?
Joe Frazier had high blood pressure and used blood pressure meds regularly... They weren't illegal at the time... If they really wanted to they could save this fight on "inadvertent usage" like they allowed Stiverne and Mayweather.. They excused BOTH -- Mayweather used masking IV's which were illegal.marvelous marv wrote:What I dont understand, is that if a fighter legitimately has a high blood pressure issue. What doctor on behalf of a state athletic commission is okaying him to compete in combat sports. Shouldn't that be a disqualifying factor?
His chances of ever winning a World Title leave with this fight if it doesn't go through.Kalan wrote:Joe Frazier had high blood pressure and used blood pressure meds regularly... They weren't illegal at the time... If they really wanted to they could save this fight on "inadvertent usage" like they allowed Stiverne and Mayweather.. They excused BOTH -- Mayweather used masking IV's which were illegal.marvelous marv wrote:What I dont understand, is that if a fighter legitimately has a high blood pressure issue. What doctor on behalf of a state athletic commission is okaying him to compete in combat sports. Shouldn't that be a disqualifying factor?
I don't believe Ortiz is going anywhere.. I believe he'll keep fighting until he get a Title shot...even if he's past 40.. He's damned good.