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SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

Good news

This isn't good news. It's no news.

Wilder never planned to fight Ortiz. The fight was never going to take place and it wont take place. Let's all start talking about which bum Wilder will be fighting next.

Did this need a separate thread?
The guy has no say in the fight, or sanctioning body.

KiwiRider wrote:Did this need a separate thread?
The guy has no say in the fight, or sanctioning body.

Sorry! Failed to spot previous topic.

..and we do believe Victor Conte, don't we? because he's the man of integrity, isn't he?

greg wrote:..and we do believe Victor Conte, don't we? because he's the man of integrity, isn't he?

Victor Conte, aka the known PED distributor.

Sounds convincing but can you really trust a man with that mustache.

I think they are trying to save the fight so that everybody can get their money. Conte must be getting his cut too.

It's strange that every dangerous contender for Wilder like Povetkin or Ortiz had positive test and paper champ as always will get some bum opponent.

AntonS wrote:SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

A fighter gets tested positive for a banned substance(s) that was neither disclosed on the medical paperwork nor was there an exemption requested, warrants the application of an immediate ban.

Luis Ortiz signed-up for the WBC's Clean Boxing Program rules and completed the paperwork accordingly. So the Cuban doesn't have a case.

Wilder please crawl under a rock and don't come out. Leave hwt boxing to the real fighters, there's no place in boxing for protected fraud coward pretenders.

Anybody who watches Wilder vs the next hired patsy diver is an imbecile. Boycott this FRAUD.

At first I knew Ortiz was innocent, but now I see this guy saying he's innocent, I start doubting about his innocence.
I'm still quite confident Ortiz is innocent, just like Povetkin, who sure is innocent.

asdfjkl wrote:At first I knew Ortiz was innocent, but now I see this guy saying he's innocent, I start doubting about his innocence.
I'm still quite confident Ortiz is innocent, just like Povetkin, who sure is innocent.

i think my head exploded heading that.

thanks for the diarrhea you contribute to this forum. we're all a bit messier and smellier because of you.

Whether or not Ortiz was taking the drugs for high blood pressure (as has been claimed) or as a masking agent for steroids, it doesn't really matter to me. The guy and/or his team are complete idiots for not filling out the medical questonaire which would have stopped this whole fornicate up in the first place. The guy has been popped for steroids in the past and thus knows he has to be on his best behaviour, especially at his age and this stage of his career. I say all this as a big Ortiz fan as well.

He has nobody to blame but himself.

I think Victor Conte is trying to prop up his image as a "Good Guy" in this video... He knows damned well VADA and the WBC are under fire right now.

So this very charming and charismatic snake comes in and starts championing Oritz against his own organization VADA.. Why doesn't he go over to VADA and make sure they revamp their paper work and and make sure they don't give Ortiz forms written in FRENCH!!! Conte could easily do that..

He knows damned well there's a method to VADA's madness and they tried to confuse Ortiz as much as possible.. So he sits there and does a critique of their indecipherable paperwork and explains WADA ruling on the drugs in question are often taken for legitimate purposes and NOT for cheating...

Then Conte goes over the penalties given for taking those very same drugs given other athletes -- which drugs are NOT PEDs.. Gymnast??? NO penalty NO fault... Cyclist??? NO penalty NO fault... So why wouldn't Ortiz be NO penalty NO fault??? Because the WBC doesn't want him taking Wilder's Heavyweight Title -- and Conte knows nothing he says is going to change anything.. He's just trying to charm everyone and resurrect his reputation.

So......we should excuse Ortiz and his team for being stupid? He didn't mean to take PEDS? Is anyone really that stupid? I think not. Someone is paying Conte to come to their defense, as weak as it is. Anyone that buys this is as dumb or dumber than they are.

AntonS wrote:SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

Anton, seriously, do you believe there was no intent to cheat? You made the thread titled "TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST". By not declaring what drugs he is currently on, is an intention to cheat. No one is that damned dumb.

Badhusker wrote:

AntonS wrote:SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

Anton, seriously, do you believe there was no intent to cheat? You made the thread titled "TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST". By not declaring what drugs he is currently on, is an intention to cheat. No one is that damned dumb.

I don't know if it was an intention to cheat (if it was just drugs for high blood pressure) - it was huge incompetence from him and his team though.

lefty wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

AntonS wrote:SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

Anton, seriously, do you believe there was no intent to cheat? You made the thread titled "TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST". By not declaring what drugs he is currently on, is an intention to cheat. No one is that damned dumb.

I don't know if it was an intention to cheat (if it was just drugs for high blood pressure) - it was huge incompetence from him and his team though.

If I asked a 2nd grader if he was taking any medication, I am pretty sure they would say yes if they were. If Ortiz and his team are that fukiing retarded, they do not deserve to even be in the sport! Not disclosing drugs you are taking is cheating, intentional or not. Stupidity is not a valid excuse....because they are not that stupid. (I guess I could be wrong though)

jamamb wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:At first I knew Ortiz was innocent, but now I see this guy saying he's innocent, I start doubting about his innocence.
I'm still quite confident Ortiz is innocent, just like Povetkin, who sure is innocent.

i think my head exploded heading that.

thanks for the diarrhea you contribute to this forum. we're all a bit messier and smellier because of you.

Welcome newboy

Badhusker wrote:

AntonS wrote:SAN CARLOS, CA (October 2, 2017) - Sports scientist, Victor Conte, reveals in detail, why he believes undefeated heavyweight contender, Luis Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs), is innocent in regards to his recent positive drug test. An expert in the field of scientific nutrition, Conte feels, Ortiz was negligent in declaring his blood pressure medicine, but also believes there is no evidence of intent to cheat. Conte's position is that the WBC heavyweight championship fight between, Deontay Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) and Luis Ortiz, scheduled for November 4th on Showtime, should move forward without delay.

"Unless you have strong evidence of intent to cheat, then you don't have a case," said a stern Victor Conte. "Let the fight go on. Don't deprive the fans...and the WBC, I hope your listening."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgxy0mQ ... e=youtu.be

Anton, seriously, do you believe there was no intent to cheat? You made the thread titled "TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST". By not declaring what drugs he is currently on, is an intention to cheat. No one is that damned dumb.

Don't know! I just posted presser that I get in my mail from time to time.

He's a cheater.

Badhusker wrote:

lefty wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Anton, seriously, do you believe there was no intent to cheat? You made the thread titled "TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST". By not declaring what drugs he is currently on, is an intention to cheat. No one is that damned dumb.

I don't know if it was an intention to cheat (if it was just drugs for high blood pressure) - it was huge incompetence from him and his team though.

If I asked a 2nd grader if he was taking any medication, I am pretty sure they would say yes if they were. If Ortiz and his team are that fukiing retarded, they do not deserve to even be in the sport! Not disclosing drugs you are taking is cheating, intentional or not. Stupidity is not a valid excuse....because they are not that stupid. (I guess I could be wrong though)

And what if it was asked in Russian? Oh then you randomly sign what people tell you to sign.