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Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 06:47
by apollo creed
"This is the first step, and now it is up to both sides to make the rematch happen. We've definitely had a plan that we worked out, to have the flexibility to make the decisions that are appropriate for the sport and the boxers. We are going to address the issue [of Jermall Charlo] on Wednesday during the session for mandatory fights - but Charlo is the official challenger and his case will be taken care of.. we will design a path for justice," Sulaiman said.

Suleiman talks like he has some control of Canelo and GGG rematch or what they will do after the rematch. My opinon is that Canelo wins the rematch and vacates that wbc belt ... and if the fight is competitive and close it sets a 3rd fight in September/ same for GGG.
Now I wonder if Golovkin had to give the wbc a fee after the fight with Canelo ? It's a percent from GGG's entire PPV share or a percent only from his guaranteed purse ?
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 09:02
by SaadOffTheDeck
Good, either will lose.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 09:59
by boxing_rocks
Canelo won't be fighting for the WBC belt, so if he gets a decision, he doesn't have to fight Charlo.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 10:21
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo won't be fighting for the WBC belt, so if he gets a decision, he doesn't have to fight Charlo.
Same for GGG. His trainer said it makes no sense for GGG to fight Charlo.

Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 10:24
by apollo creed
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Good, either will lose.

I'd agree if Charlo would fight someone like Jacobs and whoop his ass. But Charlo only beat an one legged bum at mw.

Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 11:26
by Enlightened-One
Fight fans don't get to dictate the mandatory challengers for world titles, so it's utterly pointless to mention Danny Jacobs' name in the context of this discussion.
The WBC want Jermall Charlo to face either Gennady Golovkin or Canelo within the next twelve months.
A mandatory defence of the WBC world middleweight title hasn't been performed for several years.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 12:21
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote:Fight fans don't get to dictate the mandatory challengers for world titles, so it's utterly pointless to mention Danny Jacobs' name in the context of this discussion.
The WBC want Jermall Charlo to face either Gennady Golovkin or Canelo within the next twelve months.
A mandatory defence of the WBC world middleweight title hasn't been performed for several years.
Who cares. It's just a trinket and I don't see why a big fighter like Canelo or GGG should keep it and pay fees for it.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 14:59
by Ruthless-RKO
Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:13
by jamamb
charlo batters 'defend with my face' ggg. the uppercuts will be nasty. ggg will be older.
will deserve a decision over canelo but who knows with the judges
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:26
by gilgamesh
Glad to hear it. Always nice to hear that good fights are in the works to keep happening.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:45
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote:Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:47
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
I thought his fight with Austin Trout was a draw myself or at best a narrow win for Charlo, and that's the best guy he's fought so far. Nothing there to indicate he's gonna be a world beater, but he is indeed a talented young fighter.
I think a fight between he and Canelo is even. Don't think he beats Golovkin though.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:48
by Ruthless-RKO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
I have seen him fight. I just think forums (not just this 1) hype boxers up more than they should..
Luis Ortiz is a prime example. When I joined the forum, it was just after his Tony Thompson win.. nd every other person was hyping the life out of him.. i still think Ortiz is a good boxer, but what's the need to overhype?
Would anyone start shitting on Charlo if he was to get knocked out by GGG?
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 15:52
by boxing_rocks
I missed Charlo vs Trout fight and don't see it on youtube. If Charlo is so good, why was the Trout fight so close?
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 16:07
by lefty
Ruthless-RKO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
I have seen him fight. I just think forums (not just this 1) hype boxers up more than they should..
Luis Ortiz is a prime example. When I joined the forum, it was just after his Tony Thompson win.. nd every other person was hyping the life out of him.. i still think Ortiz is a good boxer, but what's the need to overhype?
Would anyone start shitting on Charlo if he was to get knocked out by GGG?
I think the manner in which Ortiz dispatched of Jennings was a bigger factor in people perhaps overrating him, rather than him being Thompsons old ass.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 16:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:Don't know why people hype Charlo. People hype certain boxers and they're not really that good. I think Charlo is good, but he hasn't impressed me yet.. GGG and Canelo beat him IMO
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
I have seen him fight. I just think forums (not just this 1) hype boxers up more than they should..
Luis Ortiz is a prime example. When I joined the forum, it was just after his Tony Thompson win.. nd every other person was hyping the life out of him.. i still think Ortiz is a good boxer, but what's the need to overhype?
Would anyone start shitting on Charlo if he was to get knocked out by GGG?
I never said you haven't seen him fight and I've never been big on Ortiz. My track record is quite good in this area.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 19:46
by Ruthless-RKO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ruthless-RKO wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
He's very good, you'll find out soon enough.
I have seen him fight. I just think forums (not just this 1) hype boxers up more than they should..
Luis Ortiz is a prime example. When I joined the forum, it was just after his Tony Thompson win.. nd every other person was hyping the life out of him.. i still think Ortiz is a good boxer, but what's the need to overhype?
Would anyone start shitting on Charlo if he was to get knocked out by GGG?
I never said you haven't seen him fight and I've never been big on Ortiz. My track record is quite good in this area.
That's good to know. I do agree with a lot of your opinions on this forum
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 03 Oct 2017, 19:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
Thanks, though I was big on Andrew Maynard.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 04:23
by apollo creed
These is the top 10 ranking of the wbc at 160 lbs:
1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
2 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
3 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) * CBP/P
4 .- Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ukraine)
5 .- David Lemieux (Canada) AMERICA
6 .- Matt Korobov (Russia)
7 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
8 .- Antoine Douglas (US) FECARBOX
9 .- Luis Arias (US)
10 .- Andy Lee (GB)
I think Charlo would have to fight for the vacant wbc mw title and if it's gonna be against Jacobs it would be great.

Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 11:12
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote:These is the top 10 ranking of the wbc at 160 lbs:
1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
2 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
3 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) * CBP/P
4 .- Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ukraine)
5 .- David Lemieux (Canada) AMERICA
6 .- Matt Korobov (Russia)
7 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
8 .- Antoine Douglas (US) FECARBOX
9 .- Luis Arias (US)
10 .- Andy Lee (GB)
I think Charlo would have to fight for the vacant wbc mw title and if it's gonna be against Jacobs it would be great.

Charlo vs Derevo or at least Korobov before he gets a shot at the title?
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 11:20
by Ossyrules
I’d favour golovkin pretty heavy to stop him
Canelo I’m 60/40 would beat him
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 11:28
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote:apollo creed wrote:These is the top 10 ranking of the wbc at 160 lbs:
1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
2 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
3 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) * CBP/P
4 .- Sergey Derevyanchenko (Ukraine)
5 .- David Lemieux (Canada) AMERICA
6 .- Matt Korobov (Russia)
7 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
8 .- Antoine Douglas (US) FECARBOX
9 .- Luis Arias (US)
10 .- Andy Lee (GB)
I think Charlo would have to fight for the vacant wbc mw title and if it's gonna be against Jacobs it would be great.

Charlo vs Derevo or at least Korobov before he gets a shot at the title?
IMO no 1 and no 2 should fight each other for the vacated title.

Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 11:29
by apollo creed
Ossyrules wrote:I’d favour golovkin pretty heavy to stop him
Canelo I’m 60/40 would beat him
I also think both Canelo and GGG would stop Charlo.
Re: Golovkin-Canelo Winner Will Likely Be Ordered To Face Charlo, LOL
Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 13:03
by SaadOffTheDeck
They could obviously both beat him, neither one of them would come close to stopping him at this point.