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"I just want to know what the hell is going on in the heavyweight division? I have just woken up to multiple articles from Anthony Joshua saying he isn't mentally, physically or emotionally ready for me. He may take up to 2020 until he can build up the courage to really fight me. Basically he is trying to get me old. I ain't getting old any time soon. Trust me," Wilder said.
"I am the most feared heavyweight in the division. None of the best don't want to go down and lose their record. Eddie Hearn told me Joshua will knock me down in three. Then let him fight me! It's either two things, you're scared or you're doping. Make the motherf***ing fight then, why you scared?"



Wilder is drooling at AJ but if he doesn't fight a top solid fighter, he ain't getting Joshua's attention.

The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?!

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

He ruined their boxing careers via vada!

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him

AJ won't look at Donkey if he doesn't fight a solid hw.

apollo creed wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?! [/quote

Imagine if it was Wilder that said he wanted to wait until 2019 or 2020 to fight Joshua because he wasn't ready? Joshua is pulling the old "its up to my promoter" BS. I guess it is true then that he wouldn't have taken the Wlad fight if Wlad wasn't 41 and looked like he was totally shot against Fury. All making sense now, true colors are showing. He wouldn't even mention Ortiz'z name either.

3 fights have been cancelled beyond Wilder's control. He has to fight Stiverne again that is beyond his control. Who next is an acceptable opponent? How many Heavys out there would you be on to beat him if he is so terrible?

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

He destroyed the pair of them without even needing to break sweat. They never landed a glove on him - couldn't even get anywhere near him.

He finished Povetkin at world title level and Ortiz might conceivably never fight again.

Tremendous power in both gloves and pocket. Carries more power than you'd expect any one man could possess.

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him

I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...

Badhusker wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?! [/quote

Imagine if it was Wilder that said he wanted to wait until 2019 or 2020 to fight Joshua because he wasn't ready? Joshua is pulling the old "its up to my promoter" BS. I guess it is true then that he wouldn't have taken the Wlad fight if Wlad wasn't 41 and looked like he was totally shot against Fury. All making sense now, true colors are showing. He wouldn't even mention Ortiz'z name either.

3 fights have been cancelled beyond Wilder's control. He has to fight Stiverne again that is beyond his control. Who next is an acceptable opponent? How many Heavys out there would you be on to beat him if he is so terrible?

IF Wilder truly wanted to prove he wants to fight the best, he would have fought Povetkin and Ortiz without his title on the table. Imagine Wilder beating these two top dangerous guys! He would've got tons of respect and credit!

apollo creed wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?! [/quote

Imagine if it was Wilder that said he wanted to wait until 2019 or 2020 to fight Joshua because he wasn't ready? Joshua is pulling the old "its up to my promoter" BS. I guess it is true then that he wouldn't have taken the Wlad fight if Wlad wasn't 41 and looked like he was totally shot against Fury. All making sense now, true colors are showing. He wouldn't even mention Ortiz'z name either.

3 fights have been cancelled beyond Wilder's control. He has to fight Stiverne again that is beyond his control. Who next is an acceptable opponent? How many Heavys out there would you be on to beat him if he is so terrible?

IF Wilder truly wanted to prove he wants to fight the best, he would have fought Povetkin and Ortiz without his title on the table. Imagine Wilder beating these two top dangerous guys! He would've got tons of respect and credit!

Apparently you don't realize how stupid you are. Go back in your troll hole.

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him

I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...

Have you got a link for this interview. I don’t doubt what you say but I can’t find it

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
I understand it’s not completely his fault, but after a while all people think is this guy is all talk no action.

I’ll look forward to Joshua brutalising him

I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...

Have you got a link for this interview. I don’t doubt what you say but I can’t find it

I just typed Joshua says Wilder must wait until 2020 in youtube. Here is one link but there are several.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnERUvXqzoo

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
I listened to the interview. Apparently we will have to wait until Joshua grows a pair before he can brutalize Wilder...

Have you got a link for this interview. I don’t doubt what you say but I can’t find it

I just typed Joshua says Wilder must wait until 2020 in youtube. Here is one link but there are several.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnERUvXqzoo

I can see why wilder fans, and fans in general have jumped on that. It’s not really what we want to hear.

I do think, and this is only my opinion, that Joshua really doesn’t think that much for himself, so if Hearn and McCracken say that Wilders next, he goes with it. Maybe when he’s more experienced he’ll start making more decisions for himself

Badhusker wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
You didn't read about the wars he had with ATG HW legends like Stiverne, Molina, Szpilka and Arreola ?! [/quote

Imagine if it was Wilder that said he wanted to wait until 2019 or 2020 to fight Joshua because he wasn't ready? Joshua is pulling the old "its up to my promoter" BS. I guess it is true then that he wouldn't have taken the Wlad fight if Wlad wasn't 41 and looked like he was totally shot against Fury. All making sense now, true colors are showing. He wouldn't even mention Ortiz'z name either.

3 fights have been cancelled beyond Wilder's control. He has to fight Stiverne again that is beyond his control. Who next is an acceptable opponent? How many Heavys out there would you be on to beat him if he is so terrible?

IF Wilder truly wanted to prove he wants to fight the best, he would have fought Povetkin and Ortiz without his title on the table. Imagine Wilder beating these two top dangerous guys! He would've got tons of respect and credit!

Apparently you don't realize how stupid you are. Go back in your troll hole.

You are a rude gnome.

Donkey is sick and tired of those bums he's been fighting all his career. He 'scarificed' a lot of bums to stay undefeated and now he desperately wants that AJ big money fight.

I had a dream that Wilder was KOd badly and fell out of the ring. Not sure who the opponent was in the dream.

What I don't understand. Is everyone saying Joshua won't fight Wilder until he faced a Povetkin or an Ortiz.
No matter who Wilder fights the biggest fight at Heavyweight is Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.
It is the divisions money fight.
It is the ONLY money fight

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:The only articles anyone reads about wilder is things he says. It’d be good to read some stuff about a fight he’s had

True. For example, I would look forward to reading about how he did vs Povetkin or Ortiz.

Yes, me to, to bad Wilder doesn't accept such fights, I thought he was after Parker, but now Parker is free again I don't hear anything about that either, just the predicted bum Stiverne.

tiny_acres wrote:What I don't understand. Is everyone saying Joshua won't fight Wilder until he faced a Povetkin or an Ortiz.
No matter who Wilder fights the biggest fight at Heavyweight is Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.
It is the divisions money fight.
It is the ONLY money fight

Sorry, but every AJ fight is a money fight and a Wilder vs Klitschko, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Pulev and a bit lower Breazeale, Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Jun Long Zhang, Oscar Rivas, Schwarz, Jennings, Wach, Dubois, Yoka, could also generate some money.
But not doping user Stiverne, doping test skipper Stiverne, drug addict Arreola (who still made Wilder a cripple despite his drug addiction), plateworker Doewoepas and that teacher, what was his name again? Miliano or something, or the hooligan that recently got smashed around by that Polish guy called Kownacki.

Sorry for Wilder, but he simply ain't worth attention before he fought someone. Klitschko fought Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings. Povetkin fought Takam, Klitschko, Wach. Parker fought Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr. Whyte fought Chisora. Jennings fought Klitschko.
But Wilder? No, he fought nobody.

I don't believe Joshua is scared of Wilder or anybody else. He just concentrates on honing his skills and knocking out the opponents chosen for him by Eddie Hearn or by the IBF / WBA, via Eddie Hearn.

Hearn isn't exactly a timid matchmaker for his fighters AJ fought four unbeaten fighters in succession culminating in the Martin fight. Hearn is mindful of the mandatories and of making the best commercial decisions. It was expected that AJ would defend next against Ortiz and you can bet your bollocks there'd have been no cancellation resulting from controversial drug testing or anything else, the fight would have gone ahead as planned just like all the others.

So what's next assuming he gets past Pulev? Depends on the WBA I guess. Putting that aside does Eddie want Deontay? Well yes, but he's in no hurry, why should he be? AJ's just beaten the best and is now facing a genuine top 6. The fight can become massive but at the moment Wilder is an untested (at the highest level) belt-holder, who does little but run his mouth. He isn't widely known even in the US, and represents a high risk compared to other opponents. Boxing is a business, Wilder understands that. It's why Ortiz was ignored for years, it's why Deontay never wanted to unify while Klitschko was looking invincible, he's not stupid, he's aware of his limitations.

I daresay there's than element of spite in Eddie's attitude too. He made Wilder a massive offer to fight Whyte in London which would have increased Wilder's profile tenfold in the UK. Wilder basically told Hearn to go f ... himself so Hearn wouldn't be human if he wasn't going to enjoy giving a bit of it back. Personally I'm quite happy to wait for this fight however long it takes. I'm getting quite used to not watching Deontay fight the best available, and after the Ortiz circus I'm pretty much past caring. It's almost more entertaining to watch the manoeuvring of Deontay's people desperately trying to balance keeping him unbeaten with keeping him relevant. Every time they are involved in another controversy they are alienating more and more fight fans in the process and testing the blind loyalty of others, as they frantically try to land his mega-payout against Joshua before Wilder gets whupped by Joe Schmoe.

In the meantime if a few Wilder nut-huggers want to flaunt their double-standards by criticising Joshua, I don't suppose AJ gives a flying one.

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:What I don't understand. Is everyone saying Joshua won't fight Wilder until he faced a Povetkin or an Ortiz.
No matter who Wilder fights the biggest fight at Heavyweight is Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.
It is the divisions money fight.
It is the ONLY money fight

Sorry, but every AJ fight is a money fight and a Wilder vs Klitschko, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Pulev and a bit lower Breazeale, Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Jun Long Zhang, Oscar Rivas, Schwarz, Jennings, Wach, Dubois, Yoka, could also generate some money.
But not doping user Stiverne, doping test skipper Stiverne, drug addict Arreola (who still made Wilder a cripple despite his drug addiction), plateworker Doewoepas and that teacher, what was his name again? Miliano or something, or the hooligan that recently got smashed around by that Polish guy called Kownacki.

Sorry for Wilder, but he simply ain't worth attention before he fought someone. Klitschko fought Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings. Povetkin fought Takam, Klitschko, Wach. Parker fought Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr. Whyte fought Chisora. Jennings fought Klitschko.
But Wilder? No, he fought nobody.

Please answer honestly.
What fight at heavyweight is bigger than Joshua vs Wilder????

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:What I don't understand. Is everyone saying Joshua won't fight Wilder until he faced a Povetkin or an Ortiz.
No matter who Wilder fights the biggest fight at Heavyweight is Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.
It is the divisions money fight.
It is the ONLY money fight

Sorry, but every AJ fight is a money fight and a Wilder vs Klitschko, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Pulev and a bit lower Breazeale, Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Jun Long Zhang, Oscar Rivas, Schwarz, Jennings, Wach, Dubois, Yoka, could also generate some money.
But not doping user Stiverne, doping test skipper Stiverne, drug addict Arreola (who still made Wilder a cripple despite his drug addiction), plateworker Doewoepas and that teacher, what was his name again? Miliano or something, or the hooligan that recently got smashed around by that Polish guy called Kownacki.

Sorry for Wilder, but he simply ain't worth attention before he fought someone. Klitschko fought Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings. Povetkin fought Takam, Klitschko, Wach. Parker fought Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr. Whyte fought Chisora. Jennings fought Klitschko.
But Wilder? No, he fought nobody.

Wilder would have fought Povetkin and Ortiz but they couldn't keep the needle out of their butt.

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:What I don't understand. Is everyone saying Joshua won't fight Wilder until he faced a Povetkin or an Ortiz.
No matter who Wilder fights the biggest fight at Heavyweight is Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight that can be made.
It is the divisions money fight.
It is the ONLY money fight

Sorry, but every AJ fight is a money fight and a Wilder vs Klitschko, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Pulev and a bit lower Breazeale, Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr, Chisora, Jun Long Zhang, Oscar Rivas, Schwarz, Jennings, Wach, Dubois, Yoka, could also generate some money.
But not doping user Stiverne, doping test skipper Stiverne, drug addict Arreola (who still made Wilder a cripple despite his drug addiction), plateworker Doewoepas and that teacher, what was his name again? Miliano or something, or the hooligan that recently got smashed around by that Polish guy called Kownacki.

Sorry for Wilder, but he simply ain't worth attention before he fought someone. Klitschko fought Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings. Povetkin fought Takam, Klitschko, Wach. Parker fought Takam, Hughie Fury, Andy Ruiz Jr. Whyte fought Chisora. Jennings fought Klitschko.
But Wilder? No, he fought nobody.

Please answer honestly.
What fight at heavyweight is bigger than Joshua vs Wilder????

Joshua vs Wlad, Joshua vs Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Pulev, in shape Tyson Fury, Dubois, Yoka, Jun Long Zhang and so on.