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plus hurd would be a top guy too. i think talent level of 154 is much higher and these are big guys who would fit in at 160. think lara would ud guys like saunders and lemieux too and canelo was a super close one already.

ggg is slowing and doesnt have much time. canelo vulnerable, and really no else at 160 is that good except for jermall and jacobs.andrade also just came up and think hed beat guys like bjs and lemieux too.

The Creeper must be fed.

Tanzio wrote:The Creeper must be fed.

think he could feed on pretty much every middleweight

They all lose to Canelo. It's also pretty comical how the whole lot of them have waited for GGG to show some age before deciding to make a move.

Blodhemn wrote:They all lose to Canelo. It's also pretty comical how the whole lot of them have waited for GGG to show some age before deciding to make a move.

Just stop your slip is showing.

Tanzio wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:They all lose to Canelo. It's also pretty comical how the whole lot of them have waited for GGG to show some age before deciding to make a move.

Just stop your slip is showing.

Sorry. I didn't stop to come up with a cringeworthy title for them all.

Blodhemn wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:They all lose to Canelo. It's also pretty comical how the whole lot of them have waited for GGG to show some age before deciding to make a move.

Just stop your slip is showing.

Sorry. I didn't stop to come up with a cringeworthy title for them all.

I detect that you are feeling vulnerable tonight. Can you tell us how you feel?

I almost expect to see some sort of Bowe-Golota type riot after one of their fights one of these days. They seem to attract post-fight brawls.

If Canelo - GGG rematch doesnt happen in may, i dont mind to see Charlos or Hurd against them

I think Canelo has the better of them if they fought soon. Jacobs is a big powerful guy too. Not much else to stop them after golovkin goes though

Ossyrules wrote:I think Canelo has the better of them if they fought soon. Jacobs is a big powerful guy too. Not much else to stop them after golovkin goes though

Canelo - Jermall CHarlo is definitely interesting matchup

Jermall is better than canelo, but he isn't stopping him or dominating enough for a decision. He has every advantage and can't win.

Ossyrules wrote:I think Canelo has the better of them if they fought soon. Jacobs is a big powerful guy too. Not much else to stop them after golovkin goes though

3G and GingerHead won't be letting anyone cut in on their money dances until at least 2019.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Jermall is better than canelo, but he isn't stopping him or dominating enough for a decision. He has every advantage and can't win.

Every advantage? Canelo is faster and have better defense

Where is this notion of “great Canelo” coming from?

Canelo has never clearly beaten a top fighter.
So how are people so confident he’d beat any B+ or higher fighter?

Cent0089 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Jermall is better than canelo, but he isn't stopping him or dominating enough for a decision. He has every advantage and can't win.

Every advantage? Canelo is faster and have better defense

I disagree. None of the advantages are vast.

canelo maybe has slghtly faster hands but overall jermall's better. although i had ggg beatng canelo by a few i believe jermall has easier time wth ggg. a shorter guy movng straight ahead and defending wth his face s perfect for jermall style.

problem wth canelo's that he's tough and good defensve enough to be close enough to get gifts. that's fair argument but i beleve the 154 guys can beat everyone else and at least deserve W over canelo.

I hope he cleans out the boring over-rated Lara

jamamb wrote:plus hurd would be a top guy too. i think talent level of 154 is much higher and these are big guys who would fit in at 160. think lara would ud guys like saunders and lemieux too and canelo was a super close one already.

ggg is slowing and doesnt have much time. canelo vulnerable, and really no else at 160 is that good except for jermall and jacobs.andrade also just came up and think hed beat guys like bjs and lemieux too.

154-160 pounders right now are filthy and I can't wait for the possible matchups in the next year or two. I'll tell you what, Hurd is an absolute freak and he impressed the hell out of me this weekend. He's one of the biggest 154 pounders i've ever seen and he's got absolute granite for a chin. I think that eventually, all of these guys will be camping out at 160 and we should get 5 or 6 years of amazing fights.

As for the Charlo's, I think you'll start seeing people dodging them and avoiding them. They are nasty. GGG wants no part of Charlo and I don't blame him. Risk aint worth the reward YET.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Where is this notion of “great Canelo” coming from?

Canelo has never clearly beaten a top fighter.
So how are people so confident he’d beat any B+ or higher fighter?

Canelo isn’t an ATG but he’s fought some good opponents for sure. Cotto, Lara, trout, golovkin, Mayweather (although got schooled). He’s fought some bums but some good guys too

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Where is this notion of “great Canelo” coming from?

Canelo has never clearly beaten a top fighter.
So how are people so confident he’d beat any B+ or higher fighter?

Canelo isn’t an ATG but he’s fought some good opponents for sure. Cotto, Lara, trout, golovkin, Mayweather (although got schooled). He’s fought some bums but some good guys too

Canelo got schooled by lara and mayweather, had a good fight against ggg in which he lost.

He beat small khan and old cotto, old mosley and limited trout.

To me canelo is an atg but same as oscar he loses every single fight when he enters the ring against an elite opponent in his prime.

Charlo/Hurd is going to be fantastic.

Ossyrules wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Where is this notion of “great Canelo” coming from?

Canelo has never clearly beaten a top fighter.
So how are people so confident he’d beat any B+ or higher fighter?

Canelo isn’t an ATG but he’s fought some good opponents for sure. Cotto, Lara, trout, golovkin, Mayweather (although got schooled). He’s fought some bums but some good guys too

Styles really do make the fights. IMO Canelo lost a close decision to Lara and GGG, lost very wide to Floyd, won a clear but competitive fight over Cotto, and had a draw or close win vs Trout. Slicker boxers seem to give him the most problems.

Lara dominated Trout, but struggled with a couple other gate keepers, and deserved the win over Canelo. Hopefully Andrade will get in the mix either at 54 or 60. If not soon he might as well go away. Sad to see a talent like him wasted. Andrade has great skills, size, and doesn't run like Lara.

Lara would counter the fornicate out of your boy. He may be dull, but erislandy will fight anyone, Andrade just talks like he wants too.

Jip wrote:Canelo got schooled by lara and mayweather, had a good fight against ggg in which he lost.

He beat small khan and old cotto, old mosley and limited trout.

To me canelo is an atg but same as oscar he loses every single fight when he enters the ring against an elite opponent in his prime.