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Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:26
by SAPFO
Enjoyed Lenroy's skills last time. He's a slick boxer. Thought it was wider than an SD.
Anyway, I've a vested interest in this as it's part of £20, 12 fold acca that only has AJ, Kal, and Lenroy to come in for 550.
For this who understand decimal betting you can get Leroy at 2.63 at the moment.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:36
by 3132DW
Can’t see by Allen if he’s still training 100% - knows he’s in last chance saloon with Matchroom if he’s messes up again.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:38
by gilgamesh
I just kinda expect if it's close enough they'll give it to Dave so I'm taking Dave to win, but Lenroy beating him again wouldn't surprise me.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:39
by TheLeprechaun
3132DW wrote:Can’t see by Allen if he’s still training 100% - knows he’s in last chance saloon with Matchroom if he’s messes up again.
Not sure what he can do differently. He's pretty limited.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:39
by jamamb
allen blows. even if he trains hard hell prob look bad. only things that thomas not very good himself even though he won first fight.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:49
by 3132DW
TheLeprechaun wrote:3132DW wrote:Can’t see by Allen if he’s still training 100% - knows he’s in last chance saloon with Matchroom if he’s messes up again.
Not sure what he can do differently. He's pretty limited.
He can at least let his hands go this time.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 16:50
by boxingknockout
Allen looks in good shape
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 17:57
by Boxerbeetle
SAPFO wrote:Enjoyed Lenroy's skills last time. He's a slick boxer. Thought it was wider than an SD.
Anyway, I've a vested interest in this as it's part of £20, 12 fold acca that only has AJ, Kal, and Lenroy to come in for 550.
For this who understand decimal betting you can get Leroy at 2.63 at the moment.
I’ve never even heard of decimal betting. How does 2.63 compare to usual odds?
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 18:17
by TheLeprechaun
3132DW wrote:TheLeprechaun wrote:3132DW wrote:Can’t see by Allen if he’s still training 100% - knows he’s in last chance saloon with Matchroom if he’s messes up again.
Not sure what he can do differently. He's pretty limited.
He can at least let his hands go this time.
I don't think being tired was the issue. He was just doing what he has always done.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 18:27
by SAPFO
Boxerbeetle wrote:SAPFO wrote:Enjoyed Lenroy's skills last time. He's a slick boxer. Thought it was wider than an SD.
Anyway, I've a vested interest in this as it's part of £20, 12 fold acca that only has AJ, Kal, and Lenroy to come in for 550.
For this who understand decimal betting you can get Leroy at 2.63 at the moment.
I’ve never even heard of decimal betting. How does 2.63 compare to usual odds?
£100 pays £263
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 18:30
by SAPFO
TheLeprechaun wrote:3132DW wrote:TheLeprechaun wrote:
Not sure what he can do differently. He's pretty limited.
He can at least let his hands go this time.
I don't think being tired was the issue. He was just doing what he has always done.
Lenroy boxed well, I was surprised how technical he was. Someone hadn’t watched him before matching him vs Allen. I reckon it was just a glance at his record.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 15 Oct 2017, 20:19
by KiwiRider
SAPFO wrote:TheLeprechaun wrote:3132DW wrote:
He can at least let his hands go this time.
I don't think being tired was the issue. He was just doing what he has always done.
Lenroy boxed well, I was surprised how technical he was. Someone hadn’t watched him before matching him vs Allen. I reckon it was just a glance at his record.
That was the first time I had seen him. His cute combos and crisp shots were nice. I think he won by 2 rounds, and if Dave can keep up his pace for the whole fight he can win it this time. I saw the look on Eddie's face after the decision. Not a happy camper. Make or break for Allen, I hope he does it, such a nice personality to have in UK HW division.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 04:48
by keirw
Thought Lenroy boxed quite well in the first fight, but he was helped by Allen being a bit rubbish and running out of ideas half way through the first round.
Both seem like decent blokes and I wish them well.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 05:12
by chinarich
Thomas was obviously incredibly motivated coming into the last fight and viewed it as his big break; will he be at the same level now he's the champion? If he is then I think he wins again, he is demonstrably the better boxer...
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 05:24
by dhb-raging bull
He's just not very good at all find him very dull to watch when he was training under stefy bull I remember having a chat with stefy he really believed in him but I said to he's massively limited and would do well to win an area title if he can win the commenwealth it would be a massive achievement for him with his skill set if he loses this then I think he should fight tom little who calls allen out quite alot on twitter and is coming off a good win in his last fight
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 05:41
by littlepug
Don't think Allen has much more to show us, Thomas has decent feet and a decent jab which should be enough to beat Allen again
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 08:17
by rm1
I fancy Thomas as he has been training full time with Kenny Porter which I think will keep him ahead of Allen.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 16 Oct 2017, 08:19
by stujones
I like Allen this time around.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:04
by KiwiRider
Please chaps, any updates?
How is Dave going? Is he giving it the full 100% in training?
Who has he been sparring with?
Not long to go. I'm paying for the fight so I should get to see this one and I think it will be entertaining as long as Dave brings it.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:10
by Coco
The winner will be a future challenger for the New Zealanders belt on a Hearn show.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:21
by jamamb
Coco wrote:The winner will be a future challenger for the New Zealanders belt on a Hearn show.
that would be pretty fuckingg laughable mate. thomas is just a guy prospects usually beat up on the us scene. world title shot for beating dave allen? dave allen getting a shot for beating a guy who decent prospects usualy stop early?
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:27
by Gnome
jamamb wrote:Coco wrote:The winner will be a future challenger for the New Zealanders belt on a Hearn show.
that would be pretty fuckingg laughable mate. thomas is just a guy prospects usually beat up on the us scene. world title shot for beating dave allen? dave allen getting a shot for beating a guy who decent prospects usualy stop early?
That's true. I expect Allen will win this time round but I am glad Thomas is getting his chance to defend the belt in such a big event. He seems like a top bloke in interviews.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:43
by Coco
jamamb wrote:Coco wrote:The winner will be a future challenger for the New Zealanders belt on a Hearn show.
that would be pretty fuckingg laughable mate. thomas is just a guy prospects usually beat up on the us scene. world title shot for beating dave allen? dave allen getting a shot for beating a guy who decent prospects usualy stop early?
I guess you find most of the other title challengers laughable too then!
And there is hardly a glut of worthiness about!
NEWSFLASH Fighters look for straightforward defences and promoters like to keep titles in house
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:45
by jamamb
Coco wrote:jamamb wrote:Coco wrote:The winner will be a future challenger for the New Zealanders belt on a Hearn show.
that would be pretty fuckingg laughable mate. thomas is just a guy prospects usually beat up on the us scene. world title shot for beating dave allen? dave allen getting a shot for beating a guy who decent prospects usualy stop early?
I guess you find most of the other title challengers laughable too then!
And there is hardly a glut of worthiness about!
NEWSFLASH Fighters look for straightforward defences and promoters like to keep titles in house
newflash mate allen and thomas are awful even by world title challenger standards today. they'd both easily be among the worst challengers ever. is allens best win a terrible fight against totally shopworn jason gavern? thomas gets knocked out early when he actually fights anyone who is a half decent prospect. look at what breazeale and fedosov did, and he even lost to some random 11-9 guy.
they may be nice guys but allen blows and thomas was just a little better first time.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:49
by Coco
jamamb wrote:Coco wrote:jamamb wrote:
that would be pretty fuckingg laughable mate. thomas is just a guy prospects usually beat up on the us scene. world title shot for beating dave allen? dave allen getting a shot for beating a guy who decent prospects usualy stop early?
I guess you find most of the other title challengers laughable too then!
And there is hardly a glut of worthiness about!
NEWSFLASH Fighters look for straightforward defences and promoters like to keep titles in house
newflash mate allen and thomas are awful even by world title challenger standards today. they'd both easily be among the worst challengers ever.
NEWSFLASH As if that would make a difference!
Voluntary defence against the Commonwealth champion is enough to sell.
The Kiwi is offered an easy defence for decent money as long as he signs to fight Joshua. Hearn keeps all the belts whatever happens, even more so if Whyte can get a shot at Wilder.