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Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:20
by Kilsby
Thoughts?
Personally thought that Braemer took the easy way out Vs Cleverly. Braemer's been dipping his toe into the training side of things recently & looks to me like mentally he has already retired.
Cleverly's form guide doesn't look too spectacular either - I thought he had lost "it" after the second Bellew fight with the retiring & un-retiring. If he out hustled Braemer then why shouldn't Brant?
Saw a few fights of Brant on youtube, he looks like he can hit, only concern was he was a little open with looping punches when he attacks.
Surely this is a phasing out of an old-campaigner & introducing of a potential newcomer kind of fight?
Think the odds against on Brant the bookies are maybe missing a trick?
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:23
by Boxerbeetle
Don’t know much about Brant, but he should certainly have enough to beat Braemer at this stage.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:24
by stujones
Its an interesting fight.... always though Breahmer was a Super Middleweight fighting at Light Heavyweight - remembering he fought Ricky Hatton as an amateur.
He looked good in places vs Cleverly and the more I see the fight, the more I think there was a geniune training camp injury there.
Not seen enough of Brant to make comments, but it is an interesting one - I wouldn't write off Braehmer quite yet. He might be interesting at Super Middleweight, certainly punched harder at this weight.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:24
by wesshaw1985
hope Brant wins this, Braemer is finished...
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:26
by GlobalBox
I am just amazed that Braehmer seems to be convinced he will do the weight, he looked awful at 175 weigh in's he will need holding up at 168 surely.
Hard to know how good Brant is, the Germans will want a German through if they possibly can but interestingly Feigenbutz is the reserve on the night here and I would really not be surprised if he is brought into the fight next week some time.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 08:27
by Kilsby
stujones wrote:Its an interesting fight.... always though Breahmer was a Super Middleweight fighting at Light Heavyweight - remembering he fought Ricky Hatton as an amateur.
He looked good in places vs Cleverly and the more I see the fight, the more I think there was a geniune training camp injury there.
Not seen enough of Brant to make comments, but it is an interesting one - I wouldn't write off Braehmer quite yet. He might be interesting at Super Middleweight, certainly punched harder at this weight.
I just think Brant Vs Smith makes an better semi-final (two unbeaten prospects) it also would keep the interest in the WBSS Stateside

Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 17:20
by Ossyrules
I actually thought Braemer was beating clev but he kinda checked out the fight. It doesn’t spell good news to drop a division at this stage.
Hopefully Brant beats him
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 18 Oct 2017, 17:25
by gilgamesh
Ossyrules wrote:I actually thought Braemer was beating clev but he kinda checked out the fight. It doesn’t spell good news to drop a division at this stage.
Hopefully Brant beats him
Yeah I'm picking Brant mainly because of the fact that like you said, it's never good news for an aging fighter to drop a weight class.
Brant moving up a weight class is almost certainly gonna be stronger, and feeling better in the ring than Braehmer.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 04:06
by handsofstone
Braehmer moving down to SMW for this tournament was probably the biggest surprise in WBSS, would be an achievement if he could win a fight let alone the whole thing, last time out he quit against Cleverly and that was a while ago now, I had him just ahead in that fight at the time, I'm assuming the injury was genuine, you do wonder if he has the heart for it now, I don't know anything about Brant or how good he is, he's undefeated but I don't recognise a single name on his record
Could be a step too far for Brant and Braehmer will old man him but I have a feeling Braehmer will retire on his stool again, I doubt Brant will knock him out
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 05:24
by Kilsby
Brant looks like he can dig with a single shot rather than an accumulation of blows - this could be telling if Braehmer is feeling drained at the weight.
Also, Brant was a national golden gloves champion so has a decent amateur pedigree
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 05:51
by keirw
Interesting fight, but it is a bit disappointing that a quarter final in the Super middleweight tournament is actually a light heavyweight vs a middleweight.
There are plenty super middleweights who are more deserving of a slot in this tournament.
Braemher is a very good technical boxer but takes too many rounds off during fights.
I imagine Brandt will look to set a high tempo and force Braemher to tire and quit similar to the Clev fight.
I can't see either man beating Smith in the semis.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 08:44
by stujones
Is this confirmed for ITV boxoffice and free on Friday?
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 09:25
by Oiky
This is Braemers fight
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 12:06
by Kilsby
Oiky wrote:This is Braemers fight
I don't agree with your opinion but can you tell me why you think this?
Home advantage?
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 12:36
by SaadOffTheDeck
Kilsby wrote:stujones wrote:Its an interesting fight.... always though Breahmer was a Super Middleweight fighting at Light Heavyweight - remembering he fought Ricky Hatton as an amateur.
He looked good in places vs Cleverly and the more I see the fight, the more I think there was a geniune training camp injury there.
Not seen enough of Brant to make comments, but it is an interesting one - I wouldn't write off Braehmer quite yet. He might be interesting at Super Middleweight, certainly punched harder at this weight.
I just think Brant Vs Smith makes an better semi-final (two unbeaten prospects) it also would keep the interest in the WBSS Stateside

There is no interest stateside.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 12:48
by GlobalBox
Barely a word about the fight full stop from the Braehmer team, still got my doubts him making this weight Brant v Feigenbutz is still my guess but who knows.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 13:49
by Oiky
Kilsby wrote:Oiky wrote:This is Braemers fight
I don't agree with your opinion but can you tell me why you think this?
Home advantage?
Sh*t I actually meant to write Brant, God knows why I wrote braemer

Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:21
by Kilsby
Massive price collapse on Brant today!
He's gone from being 11/10 outsider to being around the 8/13 mark at 365 & Betfair.
Very strange
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:42
by GlobalBox
Kilsby wrote:Massive price collapse on Brant today!
He's gone from being 11/10 outsider to being around the 8/13 mark at 365 & Betfair.
Very strange
Braehmer just can't do this weight surely, something clearly amiss for the price to go like that today, Brant has not turned into a superstar overnight something going on.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:44
by BillyTKid
Kilsby wrote:Massive price collapse on Brant today!
He's gone from being 11/10 outsider to being around the 8/13 mark at 365 & Betfair.
Very strange
I got 7/4 when it first came out.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:54
by Kilsby
BillyTKid wrote:Kilsby wrote:Massive price collapse on Brant today!
He's gone from being 11/10 outsider to being around the 8/13 mark at 365 & Betfair.
Very strange
I got 7/4 when it first came out.
Ñice price!
I've got an ACCA going that has gone from £580 cash out on Sunday to £715 today without a glove being thrown.
I was being offered £640 at around 3pm.

Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 13:08
by ElJefe
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 13:36
by horndawg80
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 13:43
by jamamb
jurg looks like a drug addict. ill be surprised if he wins. brant initially being underdog was great for betters.
Re: Braemer Vs Brant
Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 13:44
by gilgamesh
Braehmer is moving down in weight, and is the older fighter.
Brant is moving up in weight, and is the younger fighter.
All signs point to a lopsided Brant victory.